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RE: I hate it when........ - 10/3/2008 6:12:54 PM   
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RE: I hate it when........ - 10/3/2008 6:35:45 PM   
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big virtual hugs all around, but no real ones so you don't catch this crap from me!

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RE: I hate it when........ - 10/3/2008 7:01:31 PM   
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Howdy all!

I hate it when people come up and start chatting to me in the grocery store.  Do I even KNOW you?  Or am I just wearing a "please talk to me about your life" sign?

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RE: I hate it when........ - 10/3/2008 7:10:03 PM   
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Aylee, you would NEVER be able to live down South...  what you described is an every day, multiple times, occurence.

*laughs herself out of the chair* 



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RE: I hate it when........ - 10/3/2008 7:13:29 PM   
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Sooo true, Red & one of the reasons I love the South.

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RE: I hate it when........ - 10/3/2008 7:14:45 PM   
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I hate it when the paralegal's office called and says, "oh, you need to come in and do an income and expense statement to finalize your divorce."  Funny, in August when I went in to finalize my divorce, they didn't say a freakin' word about it.    

I understand your frustration.  I've been a paralegal for 12 years, most of that time in domestic law.  I'm sure how things work in CA, but in VA, that has to be filled out long before the Final Decree gets entered by the judge.


Okay, explain this to me.  Last year I filed for marital dissolution, custody, child support, etc.  That includes the income/expense statement we are discussing.  We go to court on the visitation/custody/child support. 

Why then, in the name of all that is holy, do these SAME FARKIN FORMS have to be filled out again for it to be final?  He didn't file a response, he didn't object, nada.  Tell me how it makes sense that "final papers" have to be filed?!!!  Aaaaaaarrrrrrrrrgggggggggghhhhhhhhhh!!!!

And tell me why these people didn't tell me in August, didn't ask me for the info then, blah blah blah.  I'm tired of this, I'm tired of my own legal stuff, I'm tired tired tired.

Okay, yeah, those questions were rhetorical.


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RE: I hate it when........ - 10/3/2008 7:16:27 PM   
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*tosses several bags Cali's way & scampers off to bed*

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RE: I hate it when........ - 10/3/2008 7:21:14 PM   
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Okay, so small epiphany...

Maybe what I'm really upset about it is... that I'm afraid that when the judge finally looks at my papers in December (that's how long the backlog is), he'll find something wrong with them and send them back to be redone and then I have to wait four more months.  I've lost faith in this paralegal, well, mostly her staff.  But if her staff is screwing up, she hasn't trained them and/or she isn't reviewing their work properly.

When I picked up my paperwork in August, I had them make corrections on every single page, including common words that were misspelled.  Same with the restraining order.  And when I went to pick up the copy of the August package to have served on him, what the girl handed me was not the right thing, and then she argued with me about it (all she handed me was a proof of service, and not the actual documents being served).  Good thing I knew there had to be actual documents to be served; I cannot imagine the poor schmoes who don't know any better.

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RE: I hate it when........ - 10/3/2008 7:25:42 PM   
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**tosses some dark chocolate M&M's to Cali**
 
I know this isnt going to help.....but, i went through alot of the same bull when i got my divorced. Papers that my ex filed, were not properly filled out, we had to go through the paperwork process 4 times in 6 months....and the court systems for divorces is extremely slow. Not sure why such the backlog for these things, its ridiculous. At least you are on top of whats needing to be done and not letting them push you around with some things. Sounds like the legal office you are dealing with, doesnt know their head from there own asses.

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RE: I hate it when........ - 10/3/2008 7:36:47 PM   
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Sooo true, Red & one of the reasons I love the South.


Me, too, Linea.  I love the South, its quirks, and the sweet tea.  (Don't phuk it up with a damn lemon...  that's just un-American, LOL)

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RE: I hate it when........ - 10/3/2008 7:55:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: lilsubl

Sooo true, Red & one of the reasons I love the South.


Me, too, Linea.  I love the South, its quirks, and the sweet tea.  (Don't phuk it up with a damn lemon...  that's just un-American, LOL)


That's the next place that I want to live.  Not sure exactly what state, but I know it's somewhere South of the Mason-Dixon Line.  I truly enjoyed my time in Mississippi when I got the chance to hang out there.  For the time being, however, the Northwest is where I'll stay for the next while.

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RE: I hate it when........ - 10/3/2008 7:56:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: CalifChick

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ORIGINAL: CalifChick
I hate it when the paralegal's office called and says, "oh, you need to come in and do an income and expense statement to finalize your divorce."  Funny, in August when I went in to finalize my divorce, they didn't say a freakin' word about it.    

I understand your frustration.  I've been a paralegal for 12 years, most of that time in domestic law.  I'm not sure how things work in CA, but in VA, that has to be filled out long before the Final Decree gets entered by the judge.


Okay, explain this to me.  Last year I filed for marital dissolution, custody, child support, etc.  That includes the income/expense statement we are discussing.  We go to court on the visitation/custody/child support. 

Why then, in the name of all that is holy, do these SAME FARKIN FORMS have to be filled out again for it to be final?  He didn't file a response, he didn't object, nada.  Tell me how it makes sense that "final papers" have to be filed?!!!  Aaaaaaarrrrrrrrrgggggggggghhhhhhhhhh!!!!

And tell me why these people didn't tell me in August, didn't ask me for the info then, blah blah blah.  I'm tired of this, I'm tired of my own legal stuff, I'm tired tired tired.

Okay, yeah, those questions were rhetorical.


Cali
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*more hugs for Cali*

I only know about the Commonwealth of VA, and a little bit about WV.  Your papers will get finalized in Dec.?  Maybe they want the most recent set of numbers in order to make sure the amounts are accurate?  I'm not sure, but in VA, if he didn't object within 21 days, it would be deemed admitted by the adverse party.

As to the other stuff that has gone on in the office, who knows?  The attorney is the one ultimately responsible for happens in the office, and should be notified.  The attorneys that I have worked for were so compulsive, that we would both double and triple check everything before it left the office.  One of them said , "Always remember that every piece of paper that leaves this office represents each of us, but my name is at stake."  It gave us a sense of personal responsibility for the documents that were prepared.  We never forgot that these papers affected the lives of many people.  I'm sorry that your attorney's office is letting sloppy paperwork be deemed ready to go out the door.  Please be sure to tell the atty.

As to the backlog in some jurisdictions, in the domestic law area of the courts, there are hundreds if not thousands of cases.  What you may think just needs the stroke of a pen, could really need some careful examining, then it needs to be entered and made part of the record for every single case.  The paperwork that is required for court cases may floor the average person if you were to see it.  I worked in the court house, too, in the Clerk's Office, and was gobsmacked by the amount of paperwork that comes in during a day's time.  It was that time that I realized I preferred the other side of the counter, and why I'm back in a firm.

Best of luck, hun.  *tosses you some M&M's*

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RE: I hate it when........ - 10/3/2008 8:14:17 PM   
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This is not an attorney's office, it is a paralegal doing document production.  I did all the original paperwork myself (with no errors, I was so proud of myself), but with some financial things that needed to be addressed, I just couldn't deal with doing the last set myself. 

Cali


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RE: I hate it when........ - 10/3/2008 8:15:53 PM   
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Hugs Cali!



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RE: I hate it when........ - 10/3/2008 8:18:40 PM   
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i hate it when my boss (though God knows i love and appreciate her) is going through her own 'personal issues' and spends a lot of the day telling me about it. i don't want to appear heartless or anything, but jesus h. christ there comes a point in time when i seriously want to look at people and say, "okay!! WTF!!!??? Do you think i secretly stash a bunch of hours out of each and every day up my ass!!!!"

i hate that i went to dinner with Him and His parents and sat there for three hours to have four motzerella sticks. And then by the time we left and went to have real dinner, it made me sick.

i hate that when i'm sick it's too difficult for me to think realistically about anything.

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RE: I hate it when........ - 10/3/2008 8:26:20 PM   
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**Huggles Kali......sorry you had a rough day/night.....tomorrows another day and hopefully a better one for you **
 
 

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RE: I hate it when........ - 10/3/2008 8:36:21 PM   
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This is not an attorney's office, it is a paralegal doing document production.  I did all the original paperwork myself (with no errors, I was so proud of myself), but with some financial things that needed to be addressed, I just couldn't deal with doing the last set myself. 

Cali



WOW... this isn't even legal (to the best of my knowledge and belief) in VA.  It would fall under the "unauthorized practice of law" statute.  This would be comparable to a nurse setting up an office, without a doctor supervising her work, etc. and letting her prescribe meds.  It's just not allowed out here, paralegals cannot do legal work outside of the umbrella of a supervising attorney or firm.  I'm completely baffled.

Confuzzled Red

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RE: I hate it when........ - 10/3/2008 8:42:37 PM   
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Yeah, I don't think that would fly in Michigan, either, though of course you could do all your OWN filings and paperwork without an attorney.

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RE: I hate it when........ - 10/3/2008 8:45:52 PM   
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They aren't supposed to be practicing law, but they are allowed to be a document production company.  There are lots of them here.  They can tell you what your options are (such as, you can do this or this or that) but they aren't supposed to advise you which option to take.

It's kind of like something we have here called the "Family Law Facilitators Office".  If you self-representing, they'll help you fill out forms and make sure you have the right ones for your situation, but they cannot give you advice.

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RE: I hate it when........ - 10/3/2008 8:54:03 PM   
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I completely understand, Cali.  We have the Juvenile & Domestic Relations Court Services Unit that also helps pro se litigants fill out the forms, but it is a division of the JDR Court, and there are supervisory people who do have their J.D.'s (meaning they are atty's, or some are), and the limits are set with what they can and can't say.  Doc. prod. is something that is considered part of the trial prep or discovery process here, and even though I know what the "rules" are in a Dom. Rel. case, I can't tell a client.  I can pass the question to the atty, or can answer the client by saying, "The atty says that you can do x or y..."  Anything else will buy you a boatload of trouble, or have your state paralegal certification revoked.

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