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returning a physical collar - 5/22/2007 4:23:23 PM   
kalalia


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could anyone please offer this one advice on returning a physical collar to a former Owner. this one was not 24/7 with the former owner..she does have a few options...she can mail them to Him or return them to someone who can give them to Him

thank you and well wishes
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RE: returning a physical collar - 5/22/2007 4:26:44 PM   
littleonelily


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Status: offline 		Greetings kalalia,

Did the former Owner ask for the collar to be returned?  If so, I would ask him how he would like that done.

I wish you well.

lily (Master's fire)

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RE: returning a physical collar - 5/22/2007 4:35:23 PM   
noyeh


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Status: offline 		Greetings kalalia,

I too have a friend that just recently was no longer collared. She has decided to go ahead and mail them back even though he did not ask for them. So she would remain at least in good faith with Him. I personally think that it would show that your a honest person and have no ill intent of the "breakup". And that you are ready to move on with your life. To hold on to such items  would only mean that your not ready yet. No sense in trashing them. Just be a nice person and send them back. This way your previous owner has a good impression of you in some form or fashion. If he or she does not want them then they can do with the items as they wish. Instead of you making the decision for them.

wishing you well,

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RE: returning a physical collar - 5/22/2007 5:04:42 PM   
kalalia


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my former owner has requested not to mail these items and not to give them to the person who can give them to Him but i do not want them anymore. the relationshio ended on a bad note for both parts . i will not just toss them into the garbage or mail them to the other one that He owns. being that He no longer owns this one she is going to do what she feels is the right thing to do



well wishes




< Message edited by kalalia -- 5/22/2007 5:06:14 PM >

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RE: returning a physical collar - 5/22/2007 5:58:10 PM   
smilezz


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being that He no longer owns this one she is going to do what she feels is the right thing to do

Good evening kalalia,

I think you answered your own question. 

I hope you find much peace in your decision,
~smilezz~



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RE: returning a physical collar - 5/22/2007 6:09:30 PM   
kalalia


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thank you i think in doing what i intend to do will bring closure for me

well wishes

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RE: returning a physical collar - 5/22/2007 6:20:37 PM   
sabba


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Status: offline 		greetings kalalia;

sabba is sorry that you are having a rough time right now. she thinks you should remember that things will get better. It seems as if the Master has answered what He wishes kalalia to do with His collar. If He is giving you options, why would you not take them? If He has expressed displeasure at you doing something in particular, sabba thinks kalalia needs to remember that He is still a Gorean Master, and as a kajira, kalalia is to obey all Free. If He doesn't wish you to send them somewhere or give them to someone in particular, kalalia shouldn't....it's an instruction from a Free, and if she is a kajira, she will follow it.

Please remember that. Don't let anger in the heat of the moment cause you to make a decision you will regret down the line.

well wishes,
sabba{CB}

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RE: returning a physical collar - 5/22/2007 6:24:32 PM   
michaelOfGeorgia


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Status: offline 		the only collar i ever had was with a Mistress in Orlando but, even though it was a real leather collar (i still have it in my desk drawer). only met Her once and only for lunch...She didn't want the collar back.

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RE: returning a physical collar - 5/22/2007 6:25:58 PM   
Lordandmaster


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Status: offline 		Returning a physical collar is a whole lot easier than returning a non-physical one.

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RE: returning a physical collar - 5/22/2007 6:32:09 PM   
kalalia


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Status: offline 		greetings sabba

at this point this one feels that she is no longer a kajira and because she is no longer owned by the Master she speaks of she feels no obligatiion whatsoever to follow any of His insructions

well wishes

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RE: returning a physical collar - 5/22/2007 6:36:48 PM   
sabba


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ORIGINAL: kalalia

greetings sabba

at this point this one feels that she is no longer a kajira and because she is no longer owned by the Master she speaks of she feels no obligatiion whatsoever to follow any of His insructions

well wishes


greetings kalalia;

All sabba will say....is if kalalia desires to be owned by any Gorean Master, she should understand that an instruction from any Free is an instruction to be followed, especially when it is completely do-able. It's not up to a slave to decide what instructions they will choose to follow.

well wishes,
sabba{CB}

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RE: returning a physical collar - 5/22/2007 6:47:41 PM   
kalalia


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Status: offline 		greetings sabba

this one has a question for you then...do you obey all the Free all the time?

well wishes

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RE: returning a physical collar - 5/22/2007 6:52:36 PM   
selenaMD


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Status: offline 		greeting kalalia,

selena can only offer advice from the outside looking in, but having watched the development in your responses throughout this thread it almost appears as if you are going to return the collar soley because that is what your previous Master told you *not* to do.  this one has found that decisions made out of anger are the ones that we most often regret.  if your reasons are strictly to acquire your own sense of closure in this issue, then you need to do what you feel is the right thing to do, but to do the wrong thing just to spite someone will only come to bite you in the butt later.

wishing you well,
selena{MD}
devoted property of Master Mark

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RE: returning a physical collar - 5/22/2007 7:03:35 PM   
fyreredsub


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Status: offline 		greetings kalalia,

fyre agrees with all that sabba stated. The Masters instructions need to be followed.Former or not.

well wishes

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RE: returning a physical collar - 5/22/2007 7:35:58 PM   
kalalia


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Status: offline 		greetings fyeredsub

this one would take the advice from some of the slaves in this forum but she finds it hard to believe that all slaves do as their Masters instruct them to do without at least putting up some resistance

well wishes

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RE: returning a physical collar - 5/22/2007 7:37:43 PM   
luciaRM


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Status: offline 		greetings kalalia, 

Everything looks different after a day or two.  May i suggest doing nothing with the collars now.  There's no need to rush.  For now pack them  away somewhere and when calm decide what you want to do with them.  In the mean time another option may surface.  Everything works out in the end.  May not seem so at the time but wait awhile.

well wishes
lucia 

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RE: returning a physical collar - 5/22/2007 7:43:47 PM   
luciaRM


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quote:

ORIGINAL: kalalia

greetings fyeredsub

this one would take the advice from some of the slaves in this forum but she finds it hard to believe that all slaves do as their Masters instruct them to do without at least putting up some resistance

well wishes


i would question if they are true 'slaves' or simply 'submissives'.

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RE: returning a physical collar - 5/22/2007 7:51:38 PM   
kalalia


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Status: offline 		good point lucia


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RE: returning a physical collar - 5/22/2007 7:54:59 PM   
pashafewj


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Status: offline 		Greetings kalalia,
 
pasha would ask...if kalalia has been a kajira for 4 years, she must know the advice she would be given here and yet kalalia no longer feels she is a kajira - so why does she ask the kajira here, especially if she has made up her mind already on what she is going to do?
 
As a non-gorean, pasha would advise acting with dignity in such a situation, honor the request of the former Master, and move forward. Satisfaction is shallow when one acts "beneath" themselves ~

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RE: returning a physical collar - 5/22/2007 8:01:26 PM   
ygraine


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Status: offline 		Tal and greetings,
I am wondering if there are other motives here? This seems a strange topic to me and I sense some...hhmmm belligerence? No? Some attention seeking perhaps? Maybe I am reading too much into the OP post.
Y

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