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Greetings Lisa and Goreans and Others reading this, I find a bit of humor in the fact you don't understand to young of a female being around this type of environment. Haven't many of us had Parents, Grandparents or some maternal/paternal examples in our life that at least in a less than obvious, or in very obvious ways lived an M/s type relationship and just never declared it. I do believe those examples of harmony in the dominant / submissive lifestyle would have inspired a great many. And just imagine a happy Grandmother fussing over a very much loved Grandfather, thus inspiring little granddaughters with an example of sweet surrender. I don't believe the internet had much to do with that. I was raised in the typical Midwestern fashion, men worked hard and were the leaders of the family in prayer and so forth, mother had the free woman's voice in all she was responsible for. Our lives, like the Gorean lifestyle in the novels is intended to be, had little to do with slavery, remember it was Cabot’s adventures that brought him frequently to the paga den and such, most men would have worked and went home to a family much the same as a normal man of Earth. In pre-60’s America and I assume other countries the dominant and submissive roles loomed large. And for our BDSM friends I want to point out that it wasn't always the man making the decisions, some men did defer to the wife. I just don't give a shit about that. That isn't the street I frequent. It isn’t a Gorean contention, so right or wrong that is for another lifestyle topic. But it exists now and always has; most generally you heard the men talking shit about the pussy whipped ones over a beer at the bar. But what works, works. I will say that the slave types have always existed as well, the little tart that was fucking all the men down at the bar. She had affairs with all the big strong males that wanted to stray, or just wanted some stray. I am of the mind that there are far to few girls exposed properly to their true feelings and feeling comfortable about them. I think there would be a good number more slave types out there if we didn't declare so many sexual experiences as taboo. Just like the schools claiming safe sex comes from knowledge and not silence and fear mongering, I believe sexual needs and preference, needs the same attention. Why if a girl longs to be completely dependent on a man/ woman is that such a taboo? Perhaps those making the rules feared this very condition within their own hearts, I don't know for sure; ponder that on your own. The internet however is responsible for much earlier lifestyle directions and education. I know one girl in particular that told me she came to the chat rooms under a false age as early as 14 and was collared and engaged in cyber, in fact all sorts of cyber sexual and nonsexual slavery. She thrived on it and actually needed it. In her mind at least. Well, there's one start to the role of slave. I do believe that emotional and physical development in early years is important, but we coddle our children entirely to damn much, assume they can't think for themselves until later ages with each passing generation. Is this just us trying to be overly controlling or attempting to create a longer time in which we have a so-called justified sense of self importance? You tell me. I do know this leaves them to discover the knowledge their minds and bodies are craving on their own, and not learning from those that love and care for them, those of their homestone, but quite possibly by those willing to monopolize on their insecurities and ignorance. What say you Goreans? I personally have no desire to look at to young a girl with lust, they are not ready to serve a man completely and well maybe I like a firm able body woman best, not to mention the taboo has been ingrained into me where I get that ohhhh, that's just sick feeling when discussing it, but watch the little wenches, watch their attire and mannerism. Do you think they wish to be unnoticed? Nature kicks in whether mom and dad like it or not. It is also obvious that they aren't always after sex, they want someone that can teach them to be a woman, and it is just in a larger sense society that equates sex with womanhood. So they see it that way as well. For years and years now sex has been the undiscussed taboo, and in a great many homes it still is. Why in hell do we need school to discuss sex before the parents do, when you go to the little classes and accompany your sons and daughters to this, you see which kids are well aware of sexual conduct and have been instructed about it's role in their lives. I could at least. We have discussed the internet as a medium of advanced thought in the once thought of as “taboo” lifestyles, but let’s look simply at reading. More and more adults this day and age are literate and they actually enjoy reading, damn sure when the issues in the text excites or thrills them. The Gorean novels attract the young female because she sees that romantic figure of a powerful man and she swoons at the notion of it, then the terrible reality at the sparse numbers of men that in actuality fit that concept and they run scared in denial all the while searching for that one true dream. Hmmm, something else to ponder. Why are so few men willing to accept the responsibility and accountability of the subservient female? Why would they prefer the path most easily taken? Why when faced with the pure ecstasy of the slave girl in their control would they choose something less profound. Why are the women of these men discontented and looking? Why would divorce be so easily an option? Why, why, why to so many issues. Perhaps, and I say simply perhaps, it is that we aren’t teaching our children the right things, to discover the true person within and accept that, even if it isn’t something we had envisioned for them when they fell from the womb. As for Gor, the slavery condition is 5th, 6th or 18th on my list of importance. I wish I had considered the things I now do everyday, when my sons were young; I may have gotten them on the right track sooner. They are now becoming rather accomplished young warriors and men, but I just think, if I had been more direct and insisted they be accountable as men and not allowed the mistakes of boys sooner in life; if I had not have hand carried or coddled them to the degree I did, how much different or at least further advanced they could have been. I'm surely not saying they wouldn't have matured or became good men without the Gorean mindset, but have a good look at Jason in his three novels, just think about how many think that way. Tons! As for their way with females, they and their females are very happy. The girl of my youngest son actually had a book (yes, one of mine) down off the self one day. I had to smirk when I seen her embarrassed at my catching her, I winked and did the shhhh sign at my lips, she smiled and her attitudes are noticeably different towards men. HMMMM, imagine that. I'm not saying she longs to be a slave or anything, I haven't discussed it with her, but she was submissive, and now seems happy about it, imagine that. I think it's important to remember that Gor is not first about this condition of slavery; it is about the men, their behavior and interactions amongst each other, the way they conduct themselves and the codes that men live by. These things such as honor, integrity and nobility, virtues among a good many other points of manhood must reign as priorities to living Goreans. With the strong and well adjusted man present the females have little to worry about. They will find their place in some form of service to the men they find so powerful, so commanding and do dare I say, pretty....I hope there are children of Gor, I hope we teach them well and they become a shining example for society. Is sex important, it sure is, and in due time we should discover that teaching responsible sexual behavior will stop the rush of our children to become adults through this activity. Only the alcoholic drinks too much when its taboo is lifted. Only the slut needs sex when its taboo is lifted, so enslave her and give her that which is her. Food for thought. Live well Goreans, Bull
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Live well, Bull I'm not an asshole; I'm simply resolute... "A Republic, If You Can Keep It." Caution: My humor is a bit skewed.
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