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RE: Unprotected Sex - 6/21/2007 11:39:05 AM   
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Daddy (who just happens to be a Doctor) doesn't allow me to have and/or play with casual partners.


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RE: Unprotected Sex - 6/21/2007 12:17:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: asubmissiveheart
I was just wondering how many people here will admit to having unprotected sex?


I have one child an I have had 2 miscarrages, so yep, I have had unprotected sex, at least 3 times.

quote:


Do you always have protected sex, or does it depend on the person you are with?


It really does depend on who I am with. I have a ton of condoms, I am always giving them to my best friend because she has more of a need and use for them than I do. After my surgery last July, I ALWAYS use protection, I don't want to go through that freakin medical procedure again, fingering is cool, some toys are fine, as for unprotected sex, not gonna happen unless we want a child.

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Do you insist on new partners being tested for sexually transmitted drugs?


I think you meant for 'sexualy transmited diseases' NOT 'drugs.' I do insit on my partners being tested {withinin the last 6 weeks}, I have to get tested every 6 months since this medical bs started a few years ago, they test me for EVERTHING, even when tey do a normal blood draw they check. I didn't have sex for more than 6 months and they STILL checked, its SOP evidently.
 
I don't keep copies of my tests, I can ask for them, I just don't. If I see someone locally, I can always call and ask to pick up a copy form my most current test, if I travel, I do ask if that person wants me to bring a copy; otherwise, I don't bother.

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RE: Unprotected Sex - 6/21/2007 12:48:00 PM   
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I can't help it...I have to say something to this.....

Ok...so he is protected with other women, but sometimes you are not protected with other men and then he has unprotected sex with you.....

That seems like, a kinda sorta, reduction in risk, because the possible exposures are limited...but a 50% reduction still leaves a 50% risk......statistics say you are still engaing in high risk behavior.....so the question is...FEELING LUCKY?

And is it worth your health? And how does your Master explain this lapse in safety? Is he not concerned for your health ALL the time? or just when it suites him?

Sorry for the sarcasm, but it just boggles my mind that people still don't seem to get how dangerous these things can be. I've seen two I knew die of AIDS....not from drugs...but unprotected sex..one was a gay male, one was a het male. I also know a het female  and het male currently infected with HIV....all sexually transmitted....

My own Mother is dead....she died one year ago yesterday....she died of septic shock caused by a lung infection . Normally this lung infection would have been fought off by her body....but she had a compromised immune system......Her husband had hepatitis and was not diagnosed with it untill a year after they had been having unprotected sex....My Mom never asked for him to get an STD test in the beginning of their relationship (she should have valued herself enought to require one) ...and she died at age 50 from a completly curable lung infection because of it......

How old are you? How many years would you have left if you died at 50?

Just something to ponder.......


please, the sex ed 101 is not necessary. my Master and i are both well-versed in sexual health, std's and sti's, risks for various practices, etc. please don't assume that because no condoms are used that absolutely no safety measures have taken place. but as a slave, such things are really none of my business, my Master can use me or have me used as he wills. i accepted this nearly 7 years ago and have no regrets.


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RE: Unprotected Sex - 6/21/2007 3:43:42 PM   
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I do not have to agree with your choice to respect it. You are obviously an adult and capable of making choices appropriate for you.... If you are content with his choices and accept that they may involve significant risk then it is no ones place to force a different view on you....not mine...or anyone elses.

I suppose my ranting and raving comes from two places....one...I am a mother...and tend toward protective/concerned gestures....especially when I see or hear of something that scares  me in relation to physical health. I know i'm not your Mother...but forgive me for my compulsive advice spewing....

And the second one..is that I have had first hand experience with what can and does happen...even with those we love .

Its truely (when you get down to it) none of my business, if you have not asked for my opinion. Please try and chalk it up to concern for a fellow lifestyle submissive/slave and nothing more.....

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RE: Unprotected Sex - 6/21/2007 3:46:58 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: daddysprop247

quote:

ORIGINAL: ErusUxor


I can't help it...I have to say something to this.....

Ok...so he is protected with other women, but sometimes you are not protected with other men and then he has unprotected sex with you.....

That seems like, a kinda sorta, reduction in risk, because the possible exposures are limited...but a 50% reduction still leaves a 50% risk......statistics say you are still engaing in high risk behavior.....so the question is...FEELING LUCKY?

And is it worth your health? And how does your Master explain this lapse in safety? Is he not concerned for your health ALL the time? or just when it suites him?

Sorry for the sarcasm, but it just boggles my mind that people still don't seem to get how dangerous these things can be. I've seen two I knew die of AIDS....not from drugs...but unprotected sex..one was a gay male, one was a het male. I also know a het female  and het male currently infected with HIV....all sexually transmitted....

My own Mother is dead....she died one year ago yesterday....she died of septic shock caused by a lung infection . Normally this lung infection would have been fought off by her body....but she had a compromised immune system......Her husband had hepatitis and was not diagnosed with it untill a year after they had been having unprotected sex....My Mom never asked for him to get an STD test in the beginning of their relationship (she should have valued herself enought to require one) ...and she died at age 50 from a completly curable lung infection because of it......

How old are you? How many years would you have left if you died at 50?

Just something to ponder.......


please, the sex ed 101 is not necessary. my Master and i are both well-versed in sexual health, std's and sti's, risks for various practices, etc. please don't assume that because no condoms are used that absolutely no safety measures have taken place. but as a slave, such things are really none of my business, my Master can use me or have me used as he wills. i accepted this nearly 7 years ago and have no regrets.



it's YOUR body..you may have given its use to your master but its still YOUR body and IS your buisness.



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RE: Unprotected Sex - 6/21/2007 5:56:04 PM   
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These responses are about what I would expect. It's a similar reaction to those I got from swingers. And it's precisely why we never have unprotected sex with anyone any more, except with each other within our marriage. There are so many people playing russian roulette out there, I am continually gobsmacked by it, but it affirms for me the fact that we are not wasting our time playing it safe. People who are into BDSM are taking even greater risks than those in the vanilla population. I respect other people's right to do exactly as they please, and really appreciate this opportunity to get an insight into the way other people think
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RE: Unprotected Sex - 6/21/2007 6:38:03 PM   
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Gods, I would have figured that by now most people on these forums would have realized that Daddysprop's relationship is a lot different from what most of us engage in. Yeah, there is risk. Life is risk. Walk down the street and you risk getting hit by a car. Myself, I do not use condoms when I am in a commited relationship, I also do not sleep around. Yeah, grill me for the risk, but don't lecture me about how foolish I am.

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RE: Unprotected Sex - 6/21/2007 6:41:34 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: asubmissiveheart

I was just wondering how many people here will admit to having unprotected
sex?
Do you always have protected sex, or does it depend on the person you are with?
Do you insist on new partners being tested for sexually transmitted drugs?


I admit to haveing had unprotected sex.  I was married for a year and a half. I was engaged before that for 2 years. In those times, I did. If I am in more than one sexual relationship at a time, or if it is a relatively new relationship, then it is always protected. No ifs ands or buts.
I insist on new partners being tested before we move from protected to unprotected. To insist on something like that as soon as I meet someone, or right after we get involved strikes me as wrong.  But thats just me.

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RE: Unprotected Sex - 6/21/2007 6:41:35 PM   
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RE: Unprotected Sex - 6/21/2007 8:31:48 PM   
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while i have had my share of unprotected sex, i find it amusing yet sad that people assume that because they use a condom they are safe...the only 100% safe sex is no sex...but i am aware of the risks i take, and though i can't say i am prepared for the worst that could happen (i don't think anyone can be prepare themselves to find out that they've had HIV for an indeterminable amount of time, and btw its full blown AIDS oh and your spouse has it too...a good friend went thru this discovery a couple of months ago) but i am aware that it is a possibilty...i had the full gammut of tests almost 3 months ago....but its only been about a month since i had my last unprotected sex so, i'm gonna wait a minute to go down to the AIDS center and gonna get in there to see a gyn as soon as i get my insurance co. to pull their heads out of their asses...

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RE: Unprotected Sex - 6/21/2007 8:47:20 PM   
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let's just all fuck ourselves  and be happy...


omg did "i" say that?

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RE: Unprotected Sex - 6/21/2007 8:49:27 PM   
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I have had unprotected sex in the past when I was younger because I was stupid and really too young to really know what I was exposing myself to. When me and my Master (hubby) first met we had protected sex for a few months and then we quit having protected sex and haven't since.

This I had to say about the STD tests yes they are only good for that point in time and I know it takes awhile for HIV to show up in those tests but if both people haven't had sex since the last test was performed  then most likely they are clean, if they want to risk getting HIV then that is up to them. It does seem stupid that some people think that the tests give them protecting without having to use anything physical as protection. It does give some protection but nothing is better protection than a condom.


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RE: Unprotected Sex - 6/21/2007 10:06:29 PM   
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Everyone who says they are clean and all their tests are negative--what about HPV? I don't think there is a test for men for the non-wart varieties of HPV, and condoms do not prevent transmission because it is transmillted by skin contact not fluids. There are no symptoms in men but if passed to a female it can cause cervical cancer if not caught early. I've heard ads on TV for a new test for women for HPV besides a pap smear. Has anyone had that done?

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RE: Unprotected Sex - 6/21/2007 10:12:29 PM   
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I think they're working on a secondary fluid test (blood, urine, not completely sure though). There is a working vaccine that appears to be having good results.

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RE: Unprotected Sex - 6/21/2007 10:38:06 PM   
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I've heard ads on TV for a new test for women for HPV besides a pap smear. Has anyone had that done?


I wonder if you might be confusing the ads for Gardasil with advertising for a new test. Gardasil is a vaccination for certain types of HPV that is only for girls and women, ages of 9 to 26?

The only other thing I can think of is the ThinPrep system, but it still requires a collection of cells from down under. Do you recall what program you were watching when you saw the t.v. ad?

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RE: Unprotected Sex - 6/21/2007 10:51:19 PM   
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let's just all fuck ourselves  and be happy...


omg did "i" say that?

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RE: Unprotected Sex - 6/22/2007 8:15:25 AM   
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The vaccine for HPV doesn't protect you from every HPV strain out there so even if you have the vaccine you can still get other strains of HPV. 

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RE: Unprotected Sex - 6/22/2007 9:45:39 AM   
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I think they're working on a secondary fluid test (blood, urine, not completely sure though). There is a working vaccine that appears to be having good results.


Here's one web site that talks about the new test, there is a lot of information there:
http://www.thehpvtest.com/

A specific cause for cervical cancer has been discovered: the human papillomavirus (HPV). In most cases, HPV infections are not "active" long enough to cause problems. However, if an infection with a "high-risk" type of HPV persists, abnormal cells may develop - and turn into cervical cancer if not detected and treated early.
But there is good news. A simple test can determine if you have high-risk HPV and need to be examined more carefully. The Pap smear may not find abnormal cells until cancer has developed. That's why experts now recommend that women 30 and over (when risk of cervical cancer is highest) get the HPV test along with their Pap.
This web site is dedicated to women who choose to know all about HPV, and use that information to take control of their cervical cancer risk. Ask your doctor (or nurse) and tell your friends!

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RE: Unprotected Sex - 6/22/2007 10:00:25 AM   
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Another common misconception is that using condoms only during intercourse is considered safe sex. STD's are spread by unprotected oral sex too. When most people say they practice safe sex, what they really mean is they practice safe intercourse but engage in unprotected oral sex. Therefore they are still high risk. It's scary, but true.

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RE: Unprotected Sex - 6/22/2007 7:50:31 PM   
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I"m amazed at how much faith people put in a clean std test. It was clean at that time, in that it didn't pick anything up. What have you/they done since then? Does the pick up hiv infections within hours of being infected?
Oy

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