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How much does religion matter to you? - 7/25/2007 5:16:29 PM   
aeaa


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Status: offline 		Greetings Masters & Mistresses,
Greetings girls,
 
aea has a simple question.

How important is religion to you in choosing a slave for yourself or for the slaves, in choosing from whom you will beg to own you?
 
Please think of the many variables, not just same-religions variants please.
 
aea wishes you well.
 
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RE: How much does religion matter to you? - 7/25/2007 6:05:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have (I suspect) a unique perspective on religion.  I believe (almost) all religions are valid.  I don't think God cares what we call Him or Her so long as we call.  Having said that, it depends on how important religion, and by extension, the religious culture of her family depending on the owner's concern for such thing.

I wouldn't be happy owning a girl who was miserable that she's defied and ultimately excluded by her family.  I know some families in Chile were strict Catholics; if the girl was to be with a man who wasn't Catholic, all hell would break loose.  Ultimately, I'd have to bear the brunt of the fallout; both from her family for blaming me, and from her for being miserable that she'd left her family behind.  This is a bit off topic, though; religion is just the catalyst but it can be an important family factor.

On the other hand, I would not be happy with an athiest.  I require a girl believe that something greater than herself exists (besides just me.)

Stephan


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RE: How much does religion matter to you? - 7/25/2007 6:13:50 PM   
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RE: How much does religion matter to you? - 7/25/2007 6:41:41 PM   
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Religion, per se, is not a factor in my life either.  Belief in God does not equate with religion; spirituality is very important to me.


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RE: How much does religion matter to you? - 7/25/2007 6:51:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		It doesn't matter to me a bit, as long as there is a clear understanding between us that she'll only be serving one master at my house.

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RE: How much does religion matter to you? - 7/25/2007 11:53:14 PM   
slavelalita


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Greetings aea,

Religion is an important factor in this girls life. However, she is not goofy in thinking that because a Master's religion doesn't mesh with her own that it is the be all end all. the only thing that would make this girl not beg ownership is if the Master would want this girl to change her religion. this girls Goddess is the only thing she'd ever put above one that would own this girl. this girls not insanely religious anyway.

-lalita

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RE: How much does religion matter to you? - 7/26/2007 1:04:46 AM   
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Patina is not interested in religion as a set demonation.  She feels all are about a higher being the one and only God is the same all over.  He/She just has differet names.  Just as there are many differet languages and therefore many different words that mean love but are all different in different languages.  ex.  english--love = french -- amour-= Greek -- eros,philias= and so forth.  Why then can not God be God-- Jehovah--Buddah--Mohommad and so on.  She believe in spirtuality.  There is a higher being than the Master on Earh she will have.  One who created all man kind red ones-black ones- brown ones- and white ones- even purple and green ones.  Sometimes we all have those colors on our body.   Patina wishes all well.

Peace be to all

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RE: How much does religion matter to you? - 7/26/2007 4:06:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		greetings Master Stephan,

i agree that religion shouldnt be a big factor but spirituality is a very  important part. i would think everyone has some kind of spirituality.

well wishes,
tangy

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RE: How much does religion matter to you? - 7/26/2007 5:13:37 AM   
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Denounces any religious classification but believes in a higher non-earthly entity that created or made possible all that we know.  God or Jehovah are terms uses interchangeably when having a spiritual gab session with this entity.

Well Wishes
starshine
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RE: How much does religion matter to you? - 7/26/2007 5:26:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		Belief in a Higher Power is a driving force in my life. I believe that each of us have a mission, in life which is bestowed upon us by that Power. Whether or not we choose to fullfil it is another issue.
 
Back, just past the days when I was a closed-minded, traditional Catholic, a friend of mine who had been raised Jewish offered me a unique (at that time) perspective. His name was Mike. He said: "I believe that God is one single entity. That that entity is perfect in ALL ways. We are human and imperfect. We all view Him differently but He is The One."
 
As for any submissive that wishes to serve me, my opinion has always been that if she respects me and admires the way I live my life, she would, naturally come to incorporate a good portion of my belief system into her own. I guess that's because since my spirituality is such a driving force in my life, I would expect it to be the same for her as a natural extension.
 
 
 
 
 
Peace and comfort,
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: How much does religion matter to you? - 7/26/2007 7:10:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hi,

It was somewhat important, I have a little guy and I grew up in a strict irish catholic family in Boston. R was raised as a little less strict catholic but attended parochial schools, it mattered that he was catholic.

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ORIGINAL: aeaa

Greetings Masters & Mistresses,
Greetings girls,
 
aea has a simple question.

How important is religion to you in choosing a slave for yourself or for the slaves, in choosing from whom you will beg to own you?
 
Please think of the many variables, not just same-religions variants please.
 
aea wishes you well.
 



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RE: How much does religion matter to you? - 7/26/2007 1:28:36 PM   
Vampyrefledgling


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Status: offline 		This is not the first time I have had this discussion (nor you, I assume). Marx believed religion to be 'the opiate of the masses.' Another famous quote (the author of which escapes me) held that 'God is dead.' In times such as these, the latter seems more pertinent.

What does religion matter to me? This girl, as a student of history, and one who was raised dogmatically religious but has since shrugged her coat of religiousity, cannot decide. Is religion something humans created as a source of comfort in a world otherwise too complex to even understand? Or was the universe really created by a omnipresent being? I surely cannot say.

I do hope that humans are not the ultimate being; the mistakes we make, the things we fight over (land, oil, etc), what we destroy, all seems insignificant. I hope there is someone, something greater than we, or else, what is there to aspire to? I suppose I am agnostic. I believe there is something out there that is greater than we are, is it God, or Allah, Buddha or the Ninja Turtles, I do not know. But it is something.

To me, I, of course, will respect and honor my Master's convictions. If my study and conversion to a religion will help me to better understand and serve Him, then let it be so!

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RE: How much does religion matter to you? - 7/26/2007 1:37:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		greetings lita,

fyre got hit with her curiousity again reading your post and wondered how Gorean Men would feel about a slave worshipping a Goddess

(and doesn't mean this in a bad way cause fyre alternates tween spiritual to pagen-being a lapsed catholic is such a bitch)

but wonders if it is a conflict with Gorean ideals or seen as a natural historical thought.

well wishes

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ORIGINAL: slavelalita

Greetings Masters and Free,

Greetings aea,

Religion is an important factor in this girls life. However, she is not goofy in thinking that because a Master's religion doesn't mesh with her own that it is the be all end all. the only thing that would make this girl not beg ownership is if the Master would want this girl to change her religion. this girls Goddess is the only thing she'd ever put above one that would own this girl. this girls not insanely religious anyway.

-lalita



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RE: How much does religion matter to you? - 7/26/2007 1:46:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Stephann

I have (I suspect) a unique perspective on religion.  I believe (almost) all religions are valid.  I don't think God cares what we call Him or Her so long as we call.



Why do you think God is so insecure?  Why does he need us to recognize him and yet require we do so outside of any evidence?

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On the other hand, I would not be happy with an athiest.  I require a girl believe that something greater than herself exists (besides just me.)


Why?  What benefit does this serve, other than being able to lead her?

(Seriously curious...  I respect what you have said in other threads, and I am quite surprised that you have these opinions.  I am not trying to get into a flame war!)

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RE: How much does religion matter to you? - 7/26/2007 2:11:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi Taggard,

I didn't take your comments as anything other than curious.  Simply, I believe it far less likely that a higher power doesn't exist, didn't have some hand in our creation.  I don't think our acknowledgement is tacitly important for that being, but the awareness and respect that we offer as a race does us good, internally.  The value of prayer isn't in the forces that we are calling upon, I think, but rather the internal, emotional, spiritual peace and help it provides us.  Learning math, for a student, doesn't improve the teacher's life; it helps the student.

Someone who neither believes in, nor cares to consider, these possibilities will not likely mesh well with me.  It doesn't make athiests bad people; neither are submissive men.  I wouldnt' want to date one, though. 

I know, there's not a lot in the way of logic or reason here; spirituality doesn't stand up well to logic.  At the same time, logic doesn't stand up well to emotion; yet emotion is what rules most of this world.

Just my two cents,

Stephan


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RE: How much does religion matter to you? - 7/26/2007 2:45:26 PM   
Terrah


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Status: offline 		aea has a simple question.

How important is religion to you in choosing a slave for yourself or for the slaves, in choosing from whom you will beg to own you?

I choose not to allow a slave to beg for our collar unless she is religious, it matters not what she chooses to be as far as religion goes. Yes I believe in a Higher Power a force that drives my life, it is only recently that I have come to find there is much more involved with it.

I choose at this time not to get into a religious where-with-all with anyone. I can only tell you that as a believer in a Higher Power which I choose to call God, and that God is not dead, he never lived as we do here to begin with. He is God therefore more than I would ever hope to be, understanding all and guiding my life. I do believe I am guided, not all the things I have done were my choosing at all, or I would have had a different outcome eh?

Anyhow, if and when we do find a slave that we would collar, yes she would have to have a religion and attend to that belief as a true follower. Only in that would she truly understand and appreciate her slavery further I believe, having her spiritual needs fulfilled and complete.

I wish you well,

Terrah


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RE: How much does religion matter to you? - 7/26/2007 4:06:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Stephann
I didn't take your comments as anything other than curious.


Some people can get really sensitive about religion, especially when they a)don't know me very well and b) can't hear the tone in which I ask my questions.  I have learned not to take any chances.

quote:


Learning math, for a student, doesn't improve the teacher's life; it helps the student.


This is one of the best responses...hell this is the only good response...I have ever gotten to the egotistical God question.  Thank you for it! 


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Someone who neither believes in, nor cares to consider, these possibilities will not likely mesh well with me.


It has been my experience that atheists actually consider their beliefs far more than most people who are spiritual.  Most spiritual people believe in God because they are intellectually lazy and that is what their parents and every one around them believe.  But then again, most people are sheep.

My take on God is that God is in all of us...but not the way most people think.  The belief in God is a "hook" that has developed in men through years of evolution.  People who believe in God (or God's modern replacement, Government) are easier to lead (into battle, into debt, into the factory).  Societies with large groups of easily led people will do better than societies of individualists.  Just look at the Libertarian party.

I think people want to believe in God.  It is kind of like wanting sex.  It is something that makes us better able to live on this hostile planet.

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RE: How much does religion matter to you? - 7/26/2007 4:31:24 PM   
aeaa


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Status: offline 		Greetings Masters & Mistresses,
Greetings girls,
 
aea wants to thank everyone who has answered in this thread.
 
aea believes in a being higher than herself and than any mortal being. she uses the word "God" to describe him.  she is very spiritual in this regard.  Perhaps "religion" was a bad choice of word.
 
she has realized only recently that she does not feel she could ever surrender to a man who did not have faith in something greater than himself, be it God, Goddess, Allah, Buddah or whomever/whatever else.  Atheism aea realized is what some would call a "hard limit?" for aea.
 
Thank you so much all of you for your frankness in your responses and opinions.
 
Well wishes,
 
aea

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RE: How much does religion matter to you? - 7/26/2007 6:04:03 PM   
TribeTziyon


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Status: offline 		Just a small point of fact, Allah is not considered as a deity.

Allah is a name It means He who is worshiped

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RE: How much does religion matter to you? - 7/26/2007 6:09:10 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: aeaa

Greetings Masters & Mistresses,
Greetings girls,
 
aea has a simple question.

How important is religion to you in choosing a slave for yourself or for the slaves, in choosing from whom you will beg to own you?
 
Please think of the many variables, not just same-religions variants please.
 
aea wishes you well.
 


Religion, not so important.... However belief in our Creator, our Lord Jesus Christ....essential... Good question...thanks for asking it.(i realize this was for masters, but as a slave i could never kneel to a man that didnt believe this way)


< Message edited by imthatacheyouhav -- 7/26/2007 6:12:17 PM >

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