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a slave of gorean was so mean to me for no reason - 7/27/2007 4:24:51 AM   
mons


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greetings

hello all i have not been here for some time. i had many things go on. i wrote in another forum aboutt the death of my brother and the theif of his thing money credit card and personal   things. one of the gorean slave was in this forun and for reason i do not know why but she attack me made fun of my writing. and just made the post i wrote a joke death is not joke. her name is heartfairfnai i do not have the right spelling i was deeply shamed that she a slave of this place would act in that manner it made all of the post i wrote a joke no one would even listen after she along with others. i never know this honorable group to have someone do this and it was so stressful i was looking for help and i was laugh at my writing was the big joke to thsi slave from this group and i ask her your from the gorean group and she lied and said no i look at her profile and she is of this group/. i do not know what i am asking for but i know this someone please teach this slave how to act when someone death and the person is hurting more then ever. i will get the correct spelling of her name i must go to bed and it is favor for me to come and tell about how she act ? thank you master of gorean

written with respect to all master

mons
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RE: a slave of gorean was so mean to me for no reason - 7/27/2007 4:43:28 AM   
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Hi mons,

Gorean slaves aren't inherently better or worse than any other slaves.  Do you believe she was mean because she was Gorean?  Or was she just mean to you, and happened to be Gorean.

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RE: a slave of gorean was so mean to me for no reason - 7/27/2007 4:53:38 AM   
aeaa


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Greetings Masters & Mistresses,
Greetings mons,
 
mons, there are good people out there and bad people out there in all walks of life.  Honor and good manners are not inherent in any one particular group.  aea thinks that what happened between you and this other girl simply happened irrelevent of her being the slave of a Gorean man.
 
You have written here earlier about the death of your brother.  Truthfully, there isn't comfort to be online amidst strangers, mons.  Peace will come to you in the form of family and friends offline and good memories. You have to find that peace and comfort within your own heart.
 
aea has found in this technological day and age that most expect writing and grammar as well as spelling to be better than ever with the many spell and grammar checks available on a variety of programs.  It has helped youngsters to get better grades in school and it has helped those with dyslexia and other problems to better express themselves.  Not all are understanding.  It's that simple.  And frankly, we cannot expect everyone to be sympathetic and understanding to our own needs.
 
aea offers you a hug and encouragement that you find the strength and path you need offline with those whom you love and who love you to get you through this difficult time.

Well wishes,
 
aea
 
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RE: a slave of gorean was so mean to me for no reason - 7/27/2007 4:55:25 AM   
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mons

Posts were made on the thread you are discussing that were supportive to you. You then complained about two people that wrote those supportive posts. It was perfectly clear to others that you had absolutely no understanding of what those people said. You read into the posts things that were not even said. The poster you are now complaining about made the posting on the 22nd of July and it was clear from what she said that she was pointing out to you that your posting was hard to understand. Many people here know of your problems with writing but I think the issue with that thread is your clear lack of understanding on what others had written. You are aware that I called you on that on that particular thread but you still continued to take issue with the posters who had supported you even after it was pointed out to you that they had been supportive.

If you want to take issue with what people say to you in threads please make sure you understand fully what has been said to you, not what you think you see people say.

I hope nobody takes issue with my posting on this board but I do feel it is unfair when anyone has a complaint made about them when the complaint is unjustified.

susie 

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RE: a slave of Goran was so mean to me for no reason - 7/27/2007 5:23:08 AM   
kittensmailbox


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mons,

i am sorry that you were treated poorly, i am sorry for your loss...

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RE: a slave of gorean was so mean to me for no reason - 7/27/2007 5:31:47 AM   
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Mons,

There is going to come a time when you will have to stop being a victim.  You make yourself a victim -- no one else.  Most of your posts here are based on how you are somehow a victim in some aspect.  I honestly find it amazing based on the issues you have in your writing that you have not learned to ignore people who are not mature enough to work around it especially with as much as you utilize the internet to communicate.  This is not the first time someone has told you that you are difficult to read.  Its happened many many times over the years.  And there are posts upon posts of your saying pretty much identical of what you have said here and the responses from people each time are pretty much the same.  So why do you still let it bother you so much when immature people can't be adult about it?

You have been around these forums for a long time, there are many many many posts where you tell about how people were mean to you for how you write.  People continuously try and passify you, they give you reasons for it, they pat your shoulder or sympathize with you over it, tell you how mean and bad these people were to you.  But seriously, you need to learn how to ignore these people because you make yourself a victim each and every time you have to tell people about it.  Your way of writing is not something you should use as a crutch, but instead it shuold make you stronger becasue of the success you have had in working with it, your improvement etc.  If you allow these types of people to constantly bring you down or allow you to make yourself a victim of such people, you will forever be the victim of such people.  Its not like you are new and have never had this happen to you before, its not like you don't know people say and do mean things in the world to people who are different, but the choice is yours on whether you become a victim to such people or ignore them and say, you know what -- i don't need to let you have an effect on me, my self-esteem or whatnot.  There are more people who aren't mean to you about your writing, mons, than there are people who are.  Perhaps your focus is off and you give to much attention to these negative people because they allow you to be a victim, than focusing on people who speak to you with no indication that you have writing issues.  These people don't allow you to be a victim.

So its up to you, are you going to stay a victim, or not.  Yes, i am sure you think what i am saying here is mean -- but actually its not.  It makes me sad when someone allows other people to make them a victim all the time.  Rise above your problem, mons, don't let it define you, and you will see that when someone says something mean to you about it, you will be able to let it slide off your back without a second thought because you will realize they aren't worth your time.

The choice is yours.

angel

< Message edited by barelynangel -- 7/27/2007 5:33:19 AM >


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RE: a slave of gorean was so mean to me for no reason - 7/27/2007 8:39:18 AM   
licia71


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quote:

ORIGINAL: mons

greetings

hello all i have not been here for some time. i had many things go on. i wrote in another forum aboutt the death of my brother and the theif of his thing money credit card and personal   things. one of the gorean slave was in this forun and for reason i do not know why but she attack me made fun of my writing. and just made the post i wrote a joke death is not joke. her name is heartfairfnai i do not have the right spelling i was deeply shamed that she a slave of this place would act in that manner it made all of the post i wrote a joke no one would even listen after she along with others. i never know this honorable group to have someone do this and it was so stressful i was looking for help and i was laugh at my writing was the big joke to thsi slave from this group and i ask her your from the gorean group and she lied and said no i look at her profile and she is of this group/. i do not know what i am asking for but i know this someone please teach this slave how to act when someone death and the person is hurting more then ever. i will get the correct spelling of her name i must go to bed and it is favor for me to come and tell about how she act ? thank you master of gorean

written with respect to all master

mons

.....what?

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RE: a slave of gorean was so mean to me for no reason - 7/27/2007 9:44:08 AM   
heartofakajira


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Mons--

I believe you are referring to me...LOL....and as i said in your other thread:  Why do the weirdest, most far-fetched things keep happening to you?  Do you thrive on all this attention?  and susie and barelynangel are right in their posts.  Everyone was supporting you in the thread about your relative stealing from you...and you are definitely playing the victim.  Wake up and smell the roses...NO ONE understands your posts...you talk in circles!!!

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RE: a slave of gorean was so mean to me for no reason - 7/27/2007 11:12:41 AM   
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Please speak for yourself heartofkajira because i, for one,  understand mons posts, mostly because i value what she has to offer and i make the effort. Yes they are sometimes difficult to decipher, but they do make sense and convey information in the best way she can offer. 

i think the use of the word "weird" was very judgemental of you.  There is no cause to be derogatory towards mons.   i can understand not wanting to support behavior in a poster you think is attention seeking or "playing the victim", fine that is your right, but why the need to make them feel shame about themselves or try to ridicule them?  Wouldn't a better approach be to simply click to the next thread? 

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RE: a slave of gorean was so mean to me for no reason - 7/27/2007 11:17:37 AM   
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I also fully understand mons posts ... and also understand fully, that for some people, its as if they live under a dark cloud.
 
No one wants to live under that cloud, heartofkajira ... just so you know. You should be a defense lawyer. You already have "blame the victim" down pat.

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RE: a slave of gorean was so mean to me for no reason - 7/27/2007 11:19:11 AM   
heartofakajira


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quote:

ORIGINAL: velvetears

Please speak for yourself heartofkajira because i, for one,  understand mons posts, mostly because i value what she has to offer and i make the effort. Yes they are sometimes difficult to decipher, but they do make sense and convey information in the best way she can offer. 

i think the use of the word "weird" was very judgemental of you.  There is no cause to be derogatory towards mons.   i can understand not wanting to support behavior in a poster you think is attention seeking or "playing the victim", fine that is your right, but why the need to make them feel shame about themselves or try to ridicule them?  Wouldn't a better approach be to simply click to the next thread? 


And it isn't judgmental of MONS herself to call others names when they were offering help and support?  Give me a break..before you preach to me about being mean or anything, i think you need to have a little talk with your friend mons....be well

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RE: a slave of gorean was so mean to me for no reason - 7/27/2007 11:25:45 AM   
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*smiles* You remind me of a child who when caught doing something points their finger at another and shouts, "but she hit me first".  Two words for you  - grow up. 

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RE: a slave of gorean was so mean to me for no reason - 7/27/2007 11:27:24 AM   
heartofakajira


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quote:

ORIGINAL: velvetears

*smiles* You remind me of a child who when caught doing something points their finger at another and shouts, "but she hit me first".  Two words for you  - grow up. 


Now that is the pot calling the kettle black...LOL!!!!

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RE: a slave of gorean was so mean to me for no reason - 7/27/2007 11:31:16 AM   
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Frankly,

The flames end here.  Now.  Period.  Take it in private, or craigslist, or somewhere else.

Stephan


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RE: a slave of gorean was so mean to me for no reason - 7/27/2007 11:34:39 AM   
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Greetings girls,

Please return to the topic and stop the name calling.  At the very least, take a break from posting or move the battle to cmail.

Greetings mons,

Many here have given you advice at various times concerning the perceived insults and attacks you have received on other forums.  My advice, while I have great sympathy for the personal problems which have plagued you of late, is to ignore those posters who hurt your feelings.  Growing a thicker skin to the insults of people you do not know will help you accept good advice and forget the rest.  As I reread your original post, it occurred to me that what you were seeking was punishment for the kajira from her Master.  Is that correct?  Please let me know if I am reading more into your statements than was actually there.

well wishes ~ fairer than she


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RE: a slave of gorean was so mean to me for no reason - 7/27/2007 11:41:02 AM   
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I am done with what i have to say.  I am not sorry for what i have said, for it is the truth and many here have solidified my statements with their own.  It is up to velvetears and anyone else if they want to continue believing the outrageous threads started by mons and continue to shield her and pamper her like a wounded puppy.  In my humble opinion, it is SHE that needs to grow up, and i believe she feels threatened that at least some of us can see right through her...scams...to put it mildly.  But anyway...wish y'all well!

Edited to add:  Mons...and you wonder why others won't put up with your crap....take a look even at the title of the thread you started here "a slave of gorean was so mean to me for no reason"-- to me and many others, you have nothing better to do than to whine like a baby and tattle on others because you cannot take a little criticism.  Anyway...hope you find that counseling you seriously need..

--Regards--

The sassy slave heartofakajira


< Message edited by heartofakajira -- 7/27/2007 11:57:56 AM >

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RE: a slave of gorean was so mean to me for no reason - 7/27/2007 4:12:43 PM   
heartofakajira


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Ohhhh mons,

i had a thought....why come whining to other Dominants? is it because you are not a Domme at all? That you know you have absolutely no authority and clout over anyone not kneeling at your feet ;  no slave/sub takes you seriously because you have no clue what being dominant means...Dom(mes) do not whine to other Dom(mes)--they instead deal with the issue themselves instead of taking it public. Just a thought for future reference...

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RE: a slave of gorean was so mean to me for no reason - 7/27/2007 5:14:11 PM   
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greetings heart of a kajira,

part of the pleasure of being a  Gorean kajira is being pleasing to all Free...irregardless of what you may think of them otherwise.

If someone is not Gorean they would seek the answer on how to deal with a disrespectful slave...henceforth  that would be why one would ask correct protocol of other Dominants in such a situation as this and with your nic being what it is one can understand why it was brought here.

Also,it is common place in the Gorean forum for Free to correct slaves or to seek out the Owner if someone's property has been displeasing to them.

You are quite correct that people do form opinions of a  posters thoughts and ideals with their writing and way of expressing themselves.

well wishes

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RE: a slave of gorean was so mean to me for no reason - 7/27/2007 5:18:49 PM   
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mons,

It seems you're having a lot of emotional turbulence in life, and because of that, it is easy to understand and have a sense of empathy for your situation. After my mother died, I lived in a state of shock for almost a year. I thought I was doing "better" with things personally, being strong, being sensible instead of overly sensitive. In retrospect, it was perhaps a good act at times, but grief takes a toll that is hard to understand. Meanwhile, you have a vulnerability that is like an open wound, far easier to reinjure. It may be very possible that someone said something a bit unsensitive. They could have been teasing, or could have been ornery. Some people might even try to make a subject light hearted instead of dark, to help people deal with sadness. I know my husband tries to make me laugh at some stupid things to help me get out of such intense moods. There could be motives that are more or less innocent or even attempts to help that might be misunderstood. It's very hard to see humor in something when you're sad or tired.

I'm sorry you are going through a personally difficult time. You will be in my thoughts.
Karyn

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RE: a slave of gorean was so mean to me for no reason - 7/27/2007 7:51:59 PM   
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heartofakajira,

Do not post on this thread again.

Stephan


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