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ORIGINAL: fyreOmega

a Gorean poly home is a family.
Gorean men dont 'hook up'-
they Own and keep and take care of what is theirs.
we do not have a kajira corner where any ole Master takes us for usuage then drops us off and goes back home to his FC cause he got his baser animal desires out of his system for a few.

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ORIGINAL: Kateryn

Perhaps its cause FW acting "slutty" would be considered to be "courting the collar"?

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So, I think a Free Woman is best defined by what she is not - a slave.  A slave is a woman who aches with the desire to obey and please men, and she does so without limitation....While her master can compel her loyalty to him, she is also completely willing to sexually please any man her master orders or allows, in any way he chooses to allow. 
A slave's complete purpose in life is to obey and please men.
-Trevelyan

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When my grandmother was a girl, if you asked her her name she would have told you "Sybil Winters".  By the time I knew her she would have answered the same question "Mrs. Avery Hastings".  Not even "Sybil Hastings". 

To her way of thinking, she was the female half of a partnership in my Grandfather's good name, and she acted like it.  She had the same pride in that name that he did, and together, though they played different parts in carrying on that good name, they did so. Together.  They built a life, and a home, and a family.  After he died, she carried on that good name, and was in many ways one of the lynch-pins that kept the family that they built together.  She was a free woman.  She was her husband's partner in freedom, and self-reliance, and self-determination.  She lived and died in her own way, with her head high, always a partner in his good name.

Edana is not a partner in my name.  She is a slave girl.  If you ask her her name, she will reply with the name that I put on her as a slave.  She will most likely live in my collar a very long time, but always as a slave in my household.  If she is a fine slave, she will be kept, and valued, and enjoyed, perhaps even cherished, but always as property, not as a partner.

-Leonidas

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Once a Gorean slave becomes a slave and "the slave fires are lit in her belly" she is helpless in the grip of her needs.  If denied, she will beg even the slightest touch of any man.  That is mentioned repeatedly in the books.  She will gladly open her legs to any man that she is ordered to or allowed to.  But, she is kept on slave wine so that she cannot conceive.

A Free Woman, on the other hand, will only have sex with her Free Companion.   (I know that various Free Woman had sex with Jason when he was a slave, but none of them were companioned, and I am sure I will eventually understand why that sex was ok.)  They are "trustworthy" in that a man can be certain that any infant his Free Companion bears is his.

-Trevelyan

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If answering the demands of those slave fires by devoting herself to obeying and pleasing men is a womans top priority, she is a slave.  If she has another higher priority - husband, children, career, you name it, she is a free woman.  She can still be sensual and sexual, but if she is companioned it is only with her companion.  (I am not prepared to discuss the sexuality of Free Women who are not companioned.  I do not understand enough of that yet.  Perhaps someone else will comment and I will benefit.)

Third, I think a Free Woman's priority can be to please the Man in her life, as long as that man is her Free Companion.  Her priority will not be that of a slave, which is to obey and please men in general.

Fourth, a Free Woman is absolutely submissive to her Free Companion.  Not in the same way or degree that a slave is, but she is submissive to him, rather like the traditional "Man is the head of the house" model.

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ORIGINAL: Sepharus

While the spirit of this post applies to many, I would have to argue that it does not apply to the whole. In My own home we have no slaves. My FC wife is of the thought that one doesnt bring the cows nor the pigs into the home nor should one bring ones slaves.

We have a second residence we affectionately refer to as "The Kennel". My wifes time there often exceeds my own as a good deal of my girls training is in her hands. She has little use for the pleasures of putting my girl to use, however, as a FC She takes great pride in teaching my girl her place and position.

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ORIGINAL: Stephann

Briefly, I'll suggest a good deal of the debate regarding free women and slaves (in Gorean terms) seems to stem from the inherant bias most men have towards slaves over free women.  Whether by device or happenstance, the concept of 'free women' seems most often ascribed to mother (not all mothers mind you, but the one that happened to give birth to the man in question), grandmother, older aunt, older sister, and the older teacher from second grade.  In essence, a woman who's sexuality is taboo, and off limits.  Clearly these are all women, and all women who (at one time or another) likely were/would have been slave material, but at the point with which they came in to said man's life, the emphasis on her sexuality has been replaced by her social standing.  Certainly, nobody likes to imagine their own 70 year old grandmother collared, chained, and raped by three men.

As I believe this is the (general) bias against free women, slaves play a far more prominant role in 'romantic' Gorean lifestyles.  The successful, single forty-five year old male, when faced with the choice between a striking, sexual 23 year old girl and a brusque, rigid, prim forty-four year old woman..... well, you can connect the dots folks.  Slaves represent what the man believes he has earned while free women (most often) reflect what sacrifices the man already made.

Regards,

Stephan

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ORIGINAL: xoxi

I keep hearing what in my mind are contradictions.

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I guess when I think of a slave as described in the passages of the books I've read, they come across as both totally owned and totally sexualized.

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Not just to one man - that's what it appears a Free Companion is.

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A woman who is a slave to one man and a dedicated wife and mother in the eyes of the outside world.

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[...]wouldn't it be doing a true kajira a disservice to say she can't sleep with any Free Man who fancies her?

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If she is so utterly sexualized to be pleasing to any man wouldn't it be putting her through an unneccessary hardship to go against her sexualized nature and have to be chaste and modest to other men?

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After all you don't choose a slut for her modesty but rather for her sexual prowess.

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Why would a man prefer the mother of his children to be a slave to all men as the kajirae are described?

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I would think it would be preferable that she be a 'lady in the street but a freak in the bed' - but obviously I'm not a man,

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Slaves in the books drank slave wine..they were supposed to fuck, not breed.

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Why not get a slave's tubes tied?