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Wife Swapping - 11/5/2007 6:07:18 AM

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Would wife swapping be considered "Gorean" or not?

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RE: Wife Swapping - 11/5/2007 6:17:39 AM

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If a wife is a free companion, then definitely not.

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RE: Wife Swapping - 11/5/2007 6:26:14 AM

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i don't consider wife swapping to be gorean or even bdsm. most wife swappers are vanilla.

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RE: Wife Swapping - 11/5/2007 6:32:46 AM

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But why is it not considered "Gorean?"

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RE: Wife Swapping - 11/5/2007 6:37:19 AM

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Forgive me for starting this off on a similar tangent to a thread running alongside this one, but...well...because marriage isnt Gorean.

~edited cause I wanted clarification.

Are you asking about swinging? Or the TV show? Because I can just bet ABC or whatever network hosts that show would just love to get ahold of some "Gorean" family and swap it with some feminist tree hugger type......

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RE: Wife Swapping - 11/5/2007 6:42:24 AM

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Would depend on what you're swapping her for.

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RE: Wife Swapping - 11/5/2007 6:53:40 AM

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Lange was more into social structure than kink.And free companions were more about having free children. They were fertile-and gorean men tended to be very puritanical about anyone else having sex with them-it might result in a bastard-not the idea of contracting one to begin with.

So is swapping for sex gorean? Only if you want to ignore everything Lange was trying to get across.

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RE: Wife Swapping - 11/5/2007 7:01:44 AM

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Would depend on what you're swapping her for.

I'm just friggin' grinnin' here.....

I'll bet you swapped your's for the boat, if she was worth that much.

I sure hope you damn near have that boat done.. Your absence here has been notable.

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RE: Wife Swapping - 11/5/2007 7:09:14 AM

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God ye go den, Leonidas......

Much sedition has been underfoot while you have been away.

Good sailing, glad to see you.

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RE: Wife Swapping - 11/5/2007 7:56:09 AM

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Tal Leonidas,

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Would depend on what you're swapping her for.

Thanks. That made my day.

Edit: Welcome back.

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RE: Wife Swapping - 11/5/2007 7:59:48 AM

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quote:

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Would wife swapping be considered "Gorean" or not?

This girl asks... Do they have wives on GOR..?

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RE: Wife Swapping - 11/5/2007 8:07:22 AM

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There are one year contracts between a free man and a free woman.

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RE: Wife Swapping - 11/5/2007 8:09:17 AM

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Hello wench,

While wives and marriage are mentioned in the books, marriage as we see it is not the best example of a Gorean tenant.

There are threads addressing as much, go search them out.

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RE: Wife Swapping - 11/5/2007 8:12:10 AM

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Hi Rule,

Around these parts, one can implement the same protocol with proper application of a pre-nup, I think.
Although, one would still have to inform the beurocrats if the agreement isn't renewed, probably.
Edit: Minor caveat: a new agreement could not be entered for 1 year after ending one.

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RE: Wife Swapping - 11/5/2007 8:13:51 AM

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As some seem to have concerns about the term "wife" let us change it to "mate"

Would mate swapping be considered "Gorean" or not? Consider mate to be a free person.

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RE: Wife Swapping - 11/5/2007 8:15:39 AM

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One cannot swap a free person.

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RE: Wife Swapping - 11/5/2007 8:20:45 AM

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quote:

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Hello wench,

While wives and marriage are mentioned in the books, marriage as we see it is not the best example of a Gorean tenant.

There are threads addressing as much, go search them out.

Bull

This girl thanks master xBullx.

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RE: Wife Swapping - 11/5/2007 8:27:53 AM

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Greetings Luther,

While I'm not sure I trust your motives, I'll throw something out for you to chew on.

A free companion is mostly taken for love, reproductive purposes or political reasons. The social obligation only has to last one year, and with sluts being an acceptable and available part of societal norms I am left with a single question for you.

Why would you want to swap your FC?

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As some seem to have concerns about the term "wife" let us change it to "mate"

Would mate swapping be considered "Gorean" or not? Consider mate to be a free person.

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RE: Wife Swapping - 11/5/2007 8:58:55 AM

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Most of the replies seem to concentrate on the Free Companion, especially as it is practiced in the "civilized" cities of Gor. Yet that ignores the fact that other societies exist on Gor, with different societal institutions and customs.

For example, the Red Hunters do practice mate swapping. Does that mean they are not Gorean? Some of the tribes in the rainforests of Gor practice polygamy. Does that mean they are not Gorean? Are any of the "barbarian" cultures Gorean?

Maybe that should be worded as, do the "barbarian" cultures practice a Gorean philosophy? Is their Gorean philosophy different from that of the civilized cities? Or do they both share a Gorean philosophy but vary in their societal practices?

This then leds to the question of whether certain societal institutions are an absolute necessity for the practice of that philosophy? If so, which societal institutions and why are they necessary? If a societal institution is necessary, what are the permissible parameters of such, and how much can be modified? Or does any modification nullify it in the entirety?

When most people discuss a Gorean lifestyle, aren't they really restricting their definitions to the society of the main cities of Gor? Aren't they often ignorning the societies of the so-called barbarians of Gor? So, would it not be more correct to refer to them as City Gorean lifestylers?

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RE: Wife Swapping - 11/5/2007 9:09:02 AM

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Good point, Luther.

While I'm not done with my reading, I'd have to say the "Urban Gorean" is no more or less valid than the "Tribal Gorean," and I find that, in many areas, I identify more with the latter than the former. Customs are cultural facets that emerge over time. The things that, for me, embodies the Gorean lifestyle is the philosophy and the attendant morality. From those, culture grows.

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