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RE: The Differences between a slave and a kajira - 11/24/2007 10:39:26 PM   
MasterEros


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A few thoughts >>> Mere opinion has never changed the foundational premise of any " truth " that is held by the thinker of any philosophy. To propose that the definition of a kajira is not defined at the sole discretion of a Master who chooses to mold a female into that which he elects is utter foolishness to even discuss as I perceive. What does it matter if there are differences in GOR vs BDSM or otherwise? That which is proposed for debate regarding how a Gorean man defines his property is futile as how can the strength of steel which sharpens the confines of a man be changed by mere opinion of a female?
 
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"I looked up into his eyes. Then I was frightened. I saw that he was a Gorean master. However much he might hold me in regard, however much he might desire me, I saw that I could be to him only a helpless slave girl.

Whatever might be his feelings for me I saw that he would have me only at his feet as a slave. I would be uncompromisingly owned. He would have all, fully, from me. I would not be permitted to hold anything back, ever. He would be master, and I slave."
~Slave Girl of Gor, page 437~

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RE: The Differences between a slave and a kajira - 11/24/2007 11:17:04 PM   
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Tal to the Free and property,
Greetings Aswad,
 
Until your post there had been no command from Masters for slaves to discontinue posting. In the past when I have seen this command it was because the topic was not appropriate for the owned to be commenting on. That is not the  case in this thread. Since it has run for 7 pages there seem to be many that either wish to comment or have gotten something out of the discussion. I consider it  a woman's thread or a slaves thread. Basically I think your command was out of line. If you are annoyed by it or bothered in some way don't read it. It's that simple. As far as I'm concerned any slave that still wishes to comment should do so and Aswad you should be gracious and withdraw your command so there is no confusion. If you don't wish your slave to participate then command her.
 
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RE: The Differences between a slave and a kajira - 11/24/2007 11:18:44 PM   
Aswad


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~snickers~

Edit: This ended up out-of-order; it is not a reply to TM4Y.


< Message edited by Aswad -- 11/25/2007 12:01:20 AM >


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RE: The Differences between a slave and a kajira - 11/25/2007 12:39:33 AM   
Aswad


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Greetings TM4Y,

Let's get the most important thing out of the way first...

quote:

Basically I think your command was out of line.


I thoroughly agree that my request to the kajirae was out of line:

It should not have been necessary in the first place.

quote:

Until your post there had been no command from Masters for slaves to discontinue posting.


True. Conferring with a couple off-board, it was clear that it was desired, though.
That desire was also expressed in the contents of their respective posts.
One would think it'd be a small matter for kajirae to cater to that.

quote:

In the past when I have seen this command it was because the topic was not appropriate for the owned to be commenting on.


In this case, it was because the topic had been settled as early as Bull and Archer's posts.

quote:

That is not the case in this thread.


That is a seperate topic for debate.

quote:

Since it has run for 7 pages there seem to be many that either wish to comment or have gotten something out of the discussion.


Do you remember how long deliberations for the League of Nations charter went on?
Or, have you seen how long some of the Off-Topic threads have gone on?
Or, better yet, the "no limits" and "slave vs sub" posts elsewhere?

As you yourself have reminded me, verbosity is not- in itself- a measure of the quality of what is said.

quote:

I consider it a woman's thread or a slaves thread.


Quite a significant number of Free Men have commented thus far, so I'd take exception to that.

quote:

If you are annoyed by it or bothered in some way don't read it.


I was neither annoyed, nor bothered, by my reading.
I understand the source of the sentiments expressed.
I also see where that diverges from what is the case.

quote:

If you don't wish your slave to participate then command her.


My girl stopped participating when it became apparent that the Free wished an end to the topic.

I left this bit for last, so it'll be readily visible for anyone not reading it all:

quote:

As far as I'm concerned any slave that still wishes to comment should do so and Aswad you should be gracious and withdraw your command so there is no confusion.


There was no confusion until you introduced it by setting them up to fail.
I'll refrain from commenting on the impact, implications and intentions I read into that.

As far as I'm concerned, the slaves can post whatever the they want, wherever they want, whenever they want. But they will be ignoring the expressed desires of several posters by doing so, and the standards and priorities they display here will reflect on those who own them, which is about as final a demonstration of the standards involved as it can get.


Girls, I rescind my request.



Health,
al-Aswad.

< Message edited by Aswad -- 11/25/2007 12:46:48 AM >


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RE: The Differences between a slave and a kajira - 11/25/2007 1:28:59 AM   
Kimveri


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Howdy, folks,

I'm not sure why there has to be a "new command" given to the girls to participate in this thread when several men have suggested that it end. I saw Aswad's post as a more direct request, echoing the others.

Of course, I am aware that some will naturally respond to a suggestion as strongly stated as Aswad's as though it is a "command".....

Finis,

~Kimveri

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