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Alpha slaves? - 11/26/2007 2:00:17 PM   
MistressStiletto


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Status: offline 		In My Family, all slaves are considered equal, there are no favorites, or primaries. I have not had the occasion to meet anyone else with that sort of situation. So I was wondering... Does anyone have an equal slave Family, or would anyone be open to trying that if that was how things were set up from the beginning? Or do you need to know your place in the hierarchy in relation to other slaves?
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RE: Alpha slaves? - 11/26/2007 2:12:59 PM   
missturbation


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Status: offline 		We don't have a slave family per se but Sir does have more than one sub / slave. We are all equal as far as i am aware. To be completely honest though i don't care if im alpha, secondary, lowest on the chain as long as i am pleasing to Him and we continue to be happy.

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RE: Alpha slaves? - 11/26/2007 4:34:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		My primary poly partner is a slave.  Our secondary partner is a switch, who also dominates the slave when we are together.  This is what they actively enjoy and desire, and not from any sort of assigning of roles on my part.  The primary and secondary aspects are only by virtue of distance; I live with charlotte, and Tigrita lives three hours south of us.

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RE: Alpha slaves? - 11/26/2007 5:25:57 PM   
wisteriaV


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Status: offline 		In our home all the slaves are equal or rather will be equal when we find another girl. I may have more experience in the way Master likes things done ect, but it doesn't make the other girl less important or loved..we all have different talents and gifts to make Masters home a harmonious one.

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RE: Alpha slaves? - 11/26/2007 5:30:01 PM   
Gwynvyd


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Status: offline 		In our family When adding others they are equal... I still love LA's whole saying of Measuring the Kool-aid. Great visual.

My girl would prefer that there be a 1st 2nd and so forth... but it simply has to be equal. It would be a chatoic mess. Jamie the sub I have had for quite a while is almost secondary because he will never live with us.. and has very much his own life apart. (sadly)

I think 1st 2nd ect means very little is there is not stability.

Gwyn

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RE: Alpha slaves? - 11/27/2007 7:48:20 AM   
MasterFireMaam


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Status: offline 		I have a hierarchy:

Household I rank first. slaves in lifetime collars rank second, but are equal in status to each other. slaves in Provisional collars rank third, but are equal in status to each other. slaves in Preliminary collars rank fourth, but are equal in status to each other.   In issues of collar votes, everyone gets an equal say, but the final decision is mine. Lifetime collar slaves who are no longer collared will only be contacted for a vote if they are involved in daily life of the household.   In issues of family decisions, everyone gets a say, but my decision is final. In issues of personal decisions, those involved get a say, but my decision is final.
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RE: Alpha slaves? - 11/27/2007 10:33:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		While I am not actively involved in a D/s family, I know what role I would work best in. I picture myself as a Majordomo, serving the Dominant by ensuring all the other tasks are done, by whomever is assigned, keeping things running smoothly. A conductor for her symphony.

In the relationship I would hope to have, those who serve with me would be equals emotionally, but I would "run the house" for the Dominant. Not supplanting her, but doing those things where I could serve.

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RE: Alpha slaves? - 11/27/2007 1:17:20 PM   
MistressStiletto


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Status: offline 		Thank you all for your replies.

Master Fire Maam, I was wondering... Are your various ranks of slaves given different responsibilities or priviledges based upon their rank? Also, what exactly are "Lifetime collar slaves who are no longer collared?"

Thank you, and I look forward to any future responses to my original question.

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RE: Alpha slaves? - 11/29/2007 3:55:52 PM   
MasterFireMaam


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quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressStiletto

Thank you all for your replies.

Master Fire Maam, I was wondering... Are your various ranks of slaves given different responsibilities or priviledges based upon their rank? Also, what exactly are "Lifetime collar slaves who are no longer collared?"

Thank you, and I look forward to any future responses to my original question.


Responsibilities are in tune with what they're good at or what I think they can do. Priveldges are based on behavior or my whim, usually. But, I do keep in mind their needs. For example, when we all go to the upcoming SWLC conference, we'll have two hotel rooms. michelle and jason, who aren't actually collared, will sleep with me while anne and bruce, who are collared, will sleep in the other room. Why? 'cause I get to see michelle and jason rarely. Both anne and bruce live within two hours.

A life time collar is a life time commitment. anne is in such a collar. It like...she's adopted into my family. You know how you'd do things and be there for a parent or brother or cousin that you wouldn't do for the everyday person? That's what that means...for a lifetime, collar or not. I had to think about it for a while. I mean, what happens if we end horribly...and in five years, I'm the one she calls from jail? We understand that we will each do our best to come to the aide of the other, but that we each have boundaries. So, if she's calling 'cause she's done something TO me, it's a wash.

Master Fire

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RE: Alpha slaves? - 11/29/2007 10:27:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		I believe that all slaves are equal as well however I do believe in a primary slave.

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RE: Alpha slaves? - 11/30/2007 11:52:45 AM   
BloodLuna


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Status: offline 		i had a hard time answering this question at first considering my recent status change from switch to slave girl.  Even though I was submissive to the Master, i was always above any other slave or or submissive that came into the household, Mistress over men at at very least Alpha over other women.  now, as i have begged a total collar i am strictly a slave and my over a decade of experience as a dominant woman seems to give me little reference as that part of me no longer has any basis for the future.  so i had to think hard on this one and then ask the Master.
 
Masterdruid's response, paraphrased : my place in the household will always be as an alpha, as Masterdruid's primary slave and life partner - i have earned that through the two years i have submitted, through my current status as the mother of his soon to be heir (baby due in january)  Any other that comes into the household will be at the least a chain sister/brother equal to me in "status" as slaves, but as alpha my position is secure always and he will tolerate no competition from others. i will be the only slave allowed to share his bed (physically sleep in it)  i have authority to delegate household tasks, and to teach new comers about the rules of the household.  this is different from my origional role which allowed me to dominate and physically discipline other slaves. 
 
still coping with that knowledge.  good post OP, i love a post that teaches me something new about myself and my situation.
 
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House Of Pendragon
 
 

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RE: Alpha slaves? - 11/30/2007 5:04:42 PM   
Tigrita


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Status: offline 		As Stephan said, our hierarchy flows naturally.  Charlotte likes the more dominated the better, and I am naturally dominant in a lot of my interactions, I feel actively submissive only to Stephan, so that is just how things fell into place.  It would not really work for us girls to be 'on equal footing' I think, just because that isn't our personalities.  I don't see why it wouldn't work in other relationships though, depending on circumstances. 

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RE: Alpha slaves? - 11/30/2007 5:11:03 PM   
TheInstrument


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quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterFireMaam

I have a hierarchy:

Household I rank first. slaves in lifetime collars rank second, but are equal in status to each other. slaves in Provisional collars rank third, but are equal in status to each other. slaves in Preliminary collars rank fourth, but are equal in status to each other. In issues of collar votes, everyone gets an equal say, but the final decision is mine. Lifetime collar slaves who are no longer collared will only be contacted for a vote if they are involved in daily life of the household. In issues of family decisions, everyone gets a say, but my decision is final. In issues of personal decisions, those involved get a say, but my decision is final.
Master Fire



I love a well thought out system :)

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RE: Alpha slaves? - 11/30/2007 7:48:39 PM   
KnightofMists


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Status: offline 		Yes... there is no alpha slave in my family.  However, that is not to say that one will not be assigned an alpha role for a given task or tasks.  But as a whole the girls have comparable status within the family.

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RE: Alpha slaves? - 12/3/2007 6:40:32 PM   
masterlink65


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Status: offline 		i have alpha slave to control house in my absence. all the rest are secondary slaves. all new slaves brought to interview are introduced to household. compatibility, quality attitude are more important than quantity. alpha slave has more priviledges than the others do. things are earned, not given.
bringing the second slave into household was brought to alpha for discussion long before there was ever a second slave for interview.

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RE: Alpha slaves? - 12/5/2007 11:49:51 AM   
origindomwa


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Status: offline 		Great discussion.  I think it depends on the family and the individuals within. 

My hierarchy is mostly based on the fact that my Alpha girl is naturally agressive and domineering towards other females so to make her equal to the others would squash that part of her personality.  Additionally, Angel loves to have both a Master and Older Sister to care for her.  Regardless of the pecking order, I love them equally, they just have different responsabilities.  Tasha is like my major domo while I am away from the house...someone else there to lend a helping hand and maintain order. 

That being said I see nothing wrong with anyone keeping slaves without a pecking order, should that fit your personality and work well with the slaves in question.

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RE: Alpha slaves? - 12/7/2007 2:25:37 AM   
CatWhoWalksAlone


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Status: offline 		This is an interesting thread, in fact I just had a discussion about this with my Mentor and also a slave friend of mine yesterday. It seems like all I see in profiles are Dominants with alpha slaves seeking betas, so I was glad to see all the folks here actually living poly with slaves being equal.... I thought I was just living in some fantasy land, thinking I could have a slave "sister" to be friends, and to work *together* for love of and care for our Master.

That being said, if I must go into an unequal household, I WILL be alpha. Besides having organizational skills to die for and perfectionist/attention to detail traits,  not to mention Dominant tendencies, I also have the ability to be *fair* and to see the overall picture, and I believe I could run my Master's household in the best interests of everyone... yet always within the scope of Master's vision of His household. Also, and I'm sorry this is not very slave-like of me, but I will NOT obey anyone but my Master. Period.

I would much prefer, however, to be on equal terms, to be sisters and best friends with the other slaves owned by Him :)  In fact, my best "slave" friend and I get along so well, have such the same views of poly, and submission, and what we seek in a Master, I swear we should offer ourselves to a Master as a "matched set," ROFL!!!!


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RE: Alpha slaves? - 12/7/2007 3:34:51 PM   
PeggyO


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Status: offline 		Hello,

My personal experience is that "equal" doesn't work.  The person who has been around longest tends to have a de facto "alpha" position.  There is shared history and shared intimacy that the newcomer can never play catch up on.  Even in households where we were theoretically "equal", it never truly ended up that way, window dressing aside.

However, obviously my experience is limited.  YMMV.

Be well,

Peggy

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RE: Alpha slaves? - 12/8/2007 10:11:29 AM   
Bryghteyez


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Status: offline 		One of my relationships is very similar to this. Unfortunately, it is a long distance relationship. I wish we were in closer proximity. I met T through one of my other partners, and his primary is also his pet. I am a switch, as is he, and though I bottom with him, sometimes, at least, I top her. He is also an amateur photographer and since she and I have begun a relationship, he enjoys taking pictures of the two of us. The latest idea is to have me, artfully semi-nude, standing, with her curled at my feet, nude, with a collar and lead that I hold. Have to admit that it is very indicative of our relationship.

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RE: Alpha slaves? - 12/8/2007 10:27:22 AM   
anjelikDreams


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Status: offline 		I personally have been in this situation, while only online though. I believe it would work anywhere as the principal is the same. There is always going to be someone who knows more or has a different way of doing things that may make what you are doing easier. I believe that if you are just coming into the relationship then you are low man on the proverbial totem pole. That does not make your value less, just that you are still learning what your Owner/Owners like and the others who have been there will be able to teach you those things. You are going to have to look to the slave/slaves that have been there for guidance. So in my opinion, there is always going to be an alpha slave. It does not mean they are more liked or favored, just that you would go to them first with problems and if it can't be solved with her/him then you would take it to your Master/Mistress. But, that's just my opinion.

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