Collarchat.com

Create a
Free Account		 As the Collar Turns:
 Collarchat.com - BDSM Forum

Home  Login  Search 
Espanol  Deutsch  Francais  Italiano  Portugues 

How does "living Gorean" enhance your life?


View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest
 
All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> Gorean Lifestyles >> How does "living Gorean" enhance your life? Page: [1]
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
How does "living Gorean" enhance your life? - 1/6/2008 5:57:40 AM   
ygraine


Posts: 674
Joined: 10/10/2006
Status: offline 		Hello and good morning (if it is morning by you)
Ok I got up early with the puppy and was reading some book reviews and came across a book called "The Geography of Bliss: One Grump's Search for the Happiest Places in the World" by Eric Weiner.  The review set me off on a thoughtful tangent about bliss and happiness and attaining those sometimes elusive ideals in this short life.
Ergo: the topic.  I do not believe that any one "thing" makes a person happier but I think trying to live as Gorean in any way that I can has made my life richer, and in some ways easier.  The path is more defined and easier to follow. 
My dear friends who also try to live this way have enriched my life as well. Listening to the engaging discussions of the men, service, and making some significant changes in my own life have made it richer.
So my question(s) for today:
Has "living Gorean" enhanced your life? If so, how?
Do you find an "inner bliss" and contentment in living this way?
Thank you for your contributions. 
Y

_____________________________

If you think something is too good to be true, it probably is.
Profile   Post #: 1
RE: How does "living Gorean" enhance your life? - 1/6/2008 7:13:55 AM   
Sylverdawn


Posts: 1123
Joined: 1/1/2004
Status: offline 		Howdy:

While I cant speak about living Gorean personally. I do live with a Gorean.. and that enhances my life greatly.  I live with a person who is completely aware of who he is and makes no excuses for it.  He is consistent in his approach in life so that helps me in that I can pretty much know how things are going to go. How he will react to situtuations and decisions.  That helps me in my decision making process I dont have to guess whats best or what will work in our relationship. There is a certainity in my life because he is so certain in his own if that makes sense. I like the stability that gives me.. a strong foundation from which to grow. I often say that in meeting Temji  I was given wings. His strength, stability and consistent encouragment has been my inspiration. So that is how living with a Gorean has enhanced my life.

Peace be with you
SD

_____________________________

“When women are depressed, they eat or go shopping. Men invade another country. It's a whole different way of thinking.” Elyane Boosler

Being a women is hard work Maya Angelou

(in reply to ygraine)
Profile   Post #: 2
RE: How does "living Gorean" enhance your life? - 1/6/2008 7:44:38 AM   
IrishMist


Posts: 7259
Joined: 11/17/2005
Status: offline 		Good morning

As much as this will probably piss everyone off, I have to say it.

I don’t live Gorean; I don’t live M/s; I don’t live D/s….I don’t live by any label.

I simply live life; to the very best of my abilities.

I may not live within a code that others find just or acceptable; but I have stayed true to myself; and that, in my mind, is more important than anything else.

I will be honest though; while there are times that I do feel contentment and bliss; they are few and far between; which makes those precious moments in time all the more beautiful.

Ya'll have a wonderful day

mist

_____________________________

If I said something to offend you, please tell me what it was so that I can say it again later.
Real people are not perfect.
Perfect people are not real.

(in reply to ygraine)
Profile   Post #: 3
RE: How does "living Gorean" enhance your life? - 1/6/2008 11:51:25 AM   
Terrah


Posts: 372
Joined: 7/5/2007
Status: offline 		Tal Y,

Gorean blissful? With my old man?? ARE you kidding? LOL

why heck yeah, but it is also a lot of other things that contribute to it. For instance, I am a recovering addict way before I knew what it was to be Gorean, but the strength I find in myself enhances my acceptance I have a problem in life I can control and have done for the past 19 years now. I have never relasped either. It is the same strength I embellish with certain ideals in the Gorean customs and ideas that I believe make me a little stronger. Another instance would be, the way I viewed life before and after reading the books. Not that it changed dramatically, but it did change and over the course of the say last 6 years being Gorean it has changed a bit more, so I continue to learn and grow I feel that adds to my own bliss and feelings of contentment.

And as I have said, I am blessed to be here where and when I am. I have a great FC, and great life I love it to death, and the fact I do contribute a portion of that happiness with being Gorean yes. I see the land differently than I have say when I was a kid. Well I guess everyone would, but I have always had a great deal of love of the land, I see it now in more of a sense not that I control it, but the beauty and wonder of it all sometimes. Goreans had a great love for the land and I do as well. I think I see the beauty in it even more than I have since reading the books, it's the way I have come to appreciate a part of what I sense a Gorean is, and the way I have responded to it in different areas of my life

I wish you well.. Good subject Y.

Terrah




_____________________________

"Courage is being scared to death and saddling up anyhow." (John Wayne)

(in reply to IrishMist)
Profile   Post #: 4
RE: How does "living Gorean" enhance your life? - 1/6/2008 12:11:25 PM   
ygraine


Posts: 674
Joined: 10/10/2006
Status: offline 		Psst Terrah,
I think you defined bliss even as you gave Tavares a tough time!
Thank you all so far for your responses. 
By the way Irish, I certainly would not be pissed off at what you said, it was perfectly valid to me. 
I do believe, for myself, that trying to live within the Gorean-on-earth society that I live in has made my live more ........hhhmm... directed? Not sure if that is the right word, maybe if this thread evolves more I will find the right phrase.
Y

_____________________________

If you think something is too good to be true, it probably is.

(in reply to Terrah)
Profile   Post #: 5
RE: How does "living Gorean" enhance your life? - 1/6/2008 12:58:31 PM   
IrishMist


Posts: 7259
Joined: 11/17/2005
Status: offline
quote:

By the way Irish, I certainly would not be pissed off at what you said, it was perfectly valid to me. 

Actually, I should apologize for what I said. Sometimes I get a bug up my ass about labels; it’s one of those things that make me want to bash someone up side the head and demand ‘why do you put limitations on your life in such a way”. Before I could put a leash on my thoughts; I had posted what I did. I could have gone back and edited it; but to me that just seems wrong too. So, I apologize for the tone in which the words were delivered.

_____________________________

If I said something to offend you, please tell me what it was so that I can say it again later.
Real people are not perfect.
Perfect people are not real.

(in reply to ygraine)
Profile   Post #: 6
RE: How does "living Gorean" enhance your life? - 1/6/2008 12:59:39 PM   
littlebitxxx


Posts: 732
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: IrishMist

Good morning

As much as this will probably piss everyone off, I have to say it.

I don’t live Gorean; I don’t live M/s; I don’t live D/s….I don’t live by any label.

I simply live life; to the very best of my abilities.

I may not live within a code that others find just or acceptable; but I have stayed true to myself; and that, in my mind, is more important than anything else.

I will be honest though; while there are times that I do feel contentment and bliss; they are few and far between; which makes those precious moments in time all the more beautiful.

Ya'll have a wonderful day

mist


Greetings to all,
I'll join you, Irish, if that's okay. 
I've "lived Gorean" all my life.  It is who I am and what I'm about.  It probably doesn't fit with some other's ideals but it suits me just fine.  I don't live to be what others think.  At the end of the day, I have to look in the mirror and like the person looking back.  Living the way I do, I can do that.
Now, all of a sudden, I've been introduced to Gor and have been reading the books, forums, and processing all that I've been learning.  Okay, it seems to fit pretty well the way I've thought all along.  So now that there is a so-called label to the way I've been all along, I guess it's called "living Gorean".  It's not something I consciously "do", it's the way I am.
In all due respect of course and wishing you well,
Sage

_____________________________

There is no such thing as can't unless it is followed by yet

It is the meaningless little acts that become meaningful in the doing.

The people that mind don't matter and the people that matter don't mind.

(in reply to IrishMist)
Profile   Post #: 7
RE: How does "living Gorean" enhance your life? - 1/6/2008 1:12:05 PM   
Domminde


Posts: 54
Joined: 9/15/2007
Status: offline 		Tal Irish - Well put, shame about the infrequent bliss though, I wish you more "moments" in the future.

In somewhat the same vein as Irish - I do not define myself by Gor but I find that Gor defines some important aspects of my existence. While bliss may come from times that can be accurately described as Gorean, I find bliss comes from my complete outlook on reality as I have created it.

Bliss only fails me when I allow some complete POS to get in the way.

I wish you most well

_____________________________

What? ... I AM smilling

(in reply to IrishMist)
Profile   Post #: 8
RE: How does "living Gorean" enhance your life? - 1/6/2008 1:38:36 PM   
Musicmystery


Posts: 16522
Joined: 3/14/2005
Status: offline 		I know I'm just pissing into the wind, but it completely befuddles me that people take the time to answer a "How does 'living Gorean' enhance your life" thread merely to expound how they don't live Gorean.

Clearly, we've got to get those television writers off strike and back to work.

_____________________________

Yes, I still update my blog--thanks to all who asked!
http://writingtrue.blogspot.com
Gorean FAQ Threads

(in reply to Domminde)
Profile   Post #: 9
RE: How does "living Gorean" enhance your life? - 1/6/2008 5:22:19 PM   
OrionTheWolf


Posts: 7329
Joined: 10/11/2006
Status: offline 		Greetings Y,

It has caused me to question my learned behavior, and the subconscious reactions I have to almost everything. It has caused me to examine myself even more closely, and see where my own beliefs align with what I see as the Gorean Morality. It has caused me to understand that there is alot more to life, than just living it. We must first out ourselves in order, and try to move away from the confusion that Norman describes. We must examine many things, and once we learn them, we must not be afraid to question them repeatedly, so that we can know with confidence that the path we walk is the correct one. It has caused me to move my bar of excellence even higher, as I attempt to push mediocrity out of my life.

As I walk among society every day, I look more closely at my fellow humans, wondering how many feel that confusion Norman speaks of, how many yearn for something more than just what society tells us is the right thing. How many if given a chance would actually turn away from the truth, because the path to it is difficult.

Live well,
Orion

_____________________________

Die die glauben fordern keinen Beweis. Denen die zweifeln genuegt kein Beweis.


(in reply to ygraine)
Profile   Post #: 10
RE: How does "living Gorean" enhance your life? - 1/6/2008 5:31:43 PM   
slavetaboo


Posts: 408
Joined: 11/30/2007
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

I know I'm just pissing into the wind, but it completely befuddles me that people take the time to answer a "How does 'living Gorean' enhance your life" thread merely to expound how they don't live Gorean.

Clearly, we've got to get those television writers off strike and back to work.


I have enjoyed your thoughts Master.

(in reply to Musicmystery)
Profile   Post #: 11
RE: How does "living Gorean" enhance your life? - 1/6/2008 7:17:08 PM   
IrishMist


Posts: 7259
Joined: 11/17/2005
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

I know I'm just pissing into the wind, but it completely befuddles me that people take the time to answer a "How does 'living Gorean' enhance your life" thread merely to expound how they don't live Gorean.

Clearly, we've got to get those television writers off strike and back to work.

Perhaps...because I, for one...enjoy being difficult.



_____________________________

If I said something to offend you, please tell me what it was so that I can say it again later.
Real people are not perfect.
Perfect people are not real.

(in reply to Musicmystery)
Profile   Post #: 12
RE: How does "living Gorean" enhance your life? - 1/7/2008 5:25:32 AM   
starshineowned


Posts: 1551
Joined: 4/19/2005
From: Texas
Status: offline 		Greetings..~smiles~

Very important statement Master. It is often the very premise of many of the posts that star makes in regards to thread topics or ones started by star.

While on the surface it would seem the statement you have given is simple, and simply accomplishable by merely attesting that one is Gorean..this however, seems extremely shallow, and from the many that post that very attestment they will still come under great fire and scrutiny by others who also state the same. See's no other reason for such except for the fact that no one defined definition can determine what is or what isn't Gorean. If some other logical reason exist..it has yet to be written.

Finds that reasoning again very shallow, and illogical. If one takes the very base philosophy that Lange used and then perverted in many ways for the books themselves..it does not require one to hold the label in order to hold true that same philosophy, amongst others by many other philosophers in time to which a person hones and guides their lives by. To which again brings about that belief without action/non action holds little value. It also would lend credence as to why people who already just come and say I am Gorean..will tend to come under scrutiny in search of what that entails.

As many have stated here that call themeselves Goreans..they do not all subscribe to everything found within the books or translate the things they do believe into their everyday lives just as it is written in the books. Why would this same process not be possible to persons who simply choose not to use the label because it itself does not fit well into the everyday here and now demensions of their lives?

Just has found for a great many of the ones who do use this label that congregate here to not be so one demensional as that, and thankfully it has allowed them to converse and offer up a great many views and topics that help to enlighten many. The same goes for those that do not use the label, and while can't speak for others...both have served to enrich and give pause and thought for star on a good range of lifes curveballs.

A great example of this very thing has recently shown itself here with Master Aswad..who's insight and knowledge in many area's has been of great value for many readers. He started this process without carrying that label, and then finally took it upon himself. This process is personal for him..however, this process alone did nothing to change the knowledge and insight Master Aswad was already contributing.

Well Wishes
starshine
Happy slave of Master Delvin

< Message edited by starshineowned -- 1/7/2008 5:41:53 AM >

_____________________________

"And in the end, it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years." --Abraham Lincoln

(in reply to Musicmystery)
Profile   Post #: 13
RE: How does "living Gorean" enhance your life? - 1/7/2008 12:00:27 PM   
backseatbebe


Posts: 195
Joined: 4/12/2006
Status: offline 		lol
wonderful responce
thank you :)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

I know I'm just pissing into the wind, but it completely befuddles me that people take the time to answer a "How does 'living Gorean' enhance your life" thread merely to expound how they don't live Gorean.

Clearly, we've got to get those television writers off strike and back to work.

(in reply to Musicmystery)
Profile   Post #: 14
RE: How does "living Gorean" enhance your life? - 1/7/2008 12:27:41 PM   
Lordandmaster


Posts: 10836
Joined: 6/22/2004
Status: offline 		Actually, Sylverdawn gave a sincere answer right at the start of the thread.  I think this was the key sentence in her post:

quote:

I live with a person who is completely aware of who he is and makes no excuses for it.


If you are living the life you believe you are meant to live, that has to be deeply fulfilling.  Not so many people are truly at peace with themselves.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

I know I'm just pissing into the wind, but it completely befuddles me that people take the time to answer a "How does 'living Gorean' enhance your life" thread merely to expound how they don't live Gorean.

Clearly, we've got to get those television writers off strike and back to work.

(in reply to Musicmystery)
Profile   Post #: 15
RE: How does "living Gorean" enhance your life? - 1/7/2008 2:42:39 PM   
Musicmystery


Posts: 16522
Joined: 3/14/2005
Status: offline 		Ah.....the warm feeling of the wind........

_____________________________

Yes, I still update my blog--thanks to all who asked!
http://writingtrue.blogspot.com
Gorean FAQ Threads

(in reply to Lordandmaster)
Profile   Post #: 16
RE: How does "living Gorean" enhance your life? - 1/10/2008 8:31:30 PM   
Hiskajirah


Posts: 929
Joined: 1/9/2008
Status: offline 		Greetings Mistress Ygraine
 
Living Gorean enhances this ones life by stability and direction. Having rules to abide by, having high expectations. By being a good reflection on her Master at all times. By having learned to remain pleasing even when being pleasing was difficult to accomplish. It has broadened this wenches spectrum in regards to various facets of ones life and has kept a girl focused when focussing seemed impossible. The high protocol is regarded as constant learning, the continuous ability to better ones self always and retain gratitude for those free who have taken time to correct one when she faltered. The enhancement affords jirah to grow and be grateful that she can with intelligence and compliance. The need and want to be found pleasant by all is always in the forefront of her mind. She is at ease to live a life of order rather than one of chaos.
 
Respectfully,
~kajirah

_____________________________

"Do not try to force me to be what you want me to be! Accept me for what I want to be,&am!—one who knows she belongs at the feet of men!&desires to be at the feet of men!-their slave!!—their loving slave!” Witness
www.CRPSAdvisory.com

(in reply to Musicmystery)
Profile   Post #: 17
RE: How does "living Gorean" enhance your life? - 1/12/2008 6:53:53 AM   
Justme696


Posts: 3236
Joined: 1/7/2008
From: Royal kingdom of the Netherlands
Status: offline 		I have 1 thing that is positive and 1 thing negative.
The positive part is respect and rules. Those seem to be gone in to days society. When I Met a kajira first time I was so much impressed by her behaviour.
And i never had seen a female beeing a female as her. Yes..it did change my life in a positive way

On the other hand I saw also several kajira's beeing so badly treated that they had a hard time to fit in society anymore.
Of course people choose the lifestyle, but we are on Earth, not on counter Earth. We should be beware of that. Strict rules at house...o.k....but outside the girl should be able to speak up.

A strict following of the books is not always possible.

(in reply to Hiskajirah)
Profile   Post #: 18
RE: How does "living Gorean" enhance your life? - 1/12/2008 1:55:25 PM   
Karynn


Posts: 773
Joined: 6/8/2007
Status: offline 		Tal Y,
Tal ya'll,

One of the things I've noticed over time is the prolific expression of "If ... then" statements in my part of the world. It's possible that this is more significant to Americans than others. However, since I live in the US, I'm limited in perspective.

"If... then" statements come with almost every faith based group, no matter your preference or extreme. They come with most food products and advertising. They come with education and/or book reading. There are few facets of life that are free of such a promised process. Examples might include, "If you take these vitamins daily, you will be more youthful and able to accomplish more in your life." "If you read this book regularly, you will be more open to the words of (insert personal faith/God here) and successful." "If you spend 30 days in training camp, you'll be ready to defeat the other teams in this year's season."

After a while, it seems that life can only be achieved in such a fashion that is looped with an "If ... then" component. Except that I disagree with a lot of those comments. Regardless of the multiple promises made in media, religion, sports, work settings, and the list is endless, there are many times you will accomplish the "If" portion of the statement and never see the "then" portion of the statement.

When I learned of Gor, I felt I'd found an environment in progress that also was already in progress in my life. I didn't find anywhere in its teachings that IF I strive for goal A or B, then I will receive promise A or B. I simply see a group of thoughts conglomerating under a rather large umbrella, viable and real and very open to personal interpretation. I see a space and place that fits me and I fit it. I don't have to follow the yellow brick road to the Emerald city to find peace or bliss as you put it. I am already there.

To me, just realizing that my lifestyle and choices I've made are already there, without a list of If I do this or that and then this or that and then this or that, that I'll make it, that's reassuring. That's life and the very essence of the definition lifestyle. I'm not trying to put on a few pounds of Gorean. I'm not trying to evangelize a few hundred believers to get into the real Gor. I'm not trying to acertain a level of understanding to be Gorean. I'm already there.

I just am.
And in that regard, an aside to Irish Mist, I also dislike the concepts of labels. I dislike them mostly because there are so many people trying to analyze others (instead of themselves) and attempt to do so with very limited or no knowledge of the person. That seems futile and unnecessary. If I know me, where I am, and why I am, that itself is bliss, an inner sense of calm. I don't need someone else to tell me "No you're not Karyn." nor do I need to hear, "Yay! Karyn, you did it. You're Gorean!" Silly!

K

_____________________________

In all things, to thine own self be true.

(in reply to ygraine)
Profile   Post #: 19
Page:   [1]
All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> Gorean Lifestyles >> How does "living Gorean" enhance your life? Page: [1]
Jump to:





New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts




Collarchat.com © 2012
Collarchat.com is a member of the Free Speech Coalition
Terms of Service Privacy Policy Spam Policy

1.563