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RE: FW Dialog - 3/21/2009 5:03:29 PM   
ElizabethAnne


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Status: offline 		Heya Orion!

Yep, love bargains.   I shop Goodwill, yes Goodwill!  Garage sales around here haven't started yet, but rest assured we will be off and running when they do.    One thing I look for is marked down meat, then buy as much as money will allow and freeze it, chicken is really a good buy right now.  We get 10# bags at Walmart for about 6.00, granted they are leg and thigh quarters but who cares.   Another thing is day old bread stores, we stopped at one last night, bought four bags full for about 10.00.  

We can't turn our water boiler (our heat) off yet, but we will in about mid April, saves the gas, not even a pilot light will be lit.  I had to smile last week, my Mom was here, and I know I've shared about her before.  She was coming out of the bathroom, I was helping her, she took a step, noticed a bedroom light was on, and flipped it off.   My Mom who has Alzheimers, who is 90 and went through the depression, remembered to flip the light off.   I wish I were so quick to do that, but I am improving.

We don't make any extra trips, the county seat, where all the major store are located, is about 25 minutes from us, so we save it up, make it count.  All these little thing I have to believe add up.

Thanks for contributing!

Take care,

Liz


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RE: FW Dialog - 3/22/2009 5:02:07 PM   
Mitzie


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Status: offline 		Hya  Everyone.

                      Living alone I have found a few things to be effective I have a front room that I only use when I have company so when I am not using it I turn all power points off and also toaster cooker and microwave are always switched off after use  you will be suprised how much electric you can save.

I get my veg from a market  or a farm shop it lasts much longer and if I see  a case of veg cheap I will buy and freeze it.

I make  a big lasagna and freeze it into portions  and the same with chillis.

For the females who wear  underwired bras we know we have to hand wash them and I only wear mine  one day so when I have a bath I wash them in the bath as they are clean anyway but it saves  on buying wash powder  or liquid.

                          Mitzie

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RE: FW Dialog - 3/22/2009 5:48:18 PM   
OrionTheWolf


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Oh here is another one my daughter remined me that we do. All TV's and computers are on surge protectors now, and we turn all the power off to them when not in use. Those energy saving light bulbs have saved quite a bundle too, because of how many people live in this house and how large it is now.

Live well,
Orion

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RE: FW Dialog - 3/23/2009 11:03:04 AM   
sweetgirlseeks


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Status: offline 		Greetings,

I was just watching a television show with a couple who have 17 kids of their own and she is pregnant with the 18th now.  They were sharing some of the ways they save money and make due, and one of them was making their own laundry soap.  They also shop at Goodwill and buy in bulk.

I think it is great to come up with new ideas to save money, but I have a friend that is buying cheaper cuts of meat and stuff to feed her family, but she continues to faithfully buy her 2-3 packs of cigarettes a day.  I have to laugh at people who do that... cheapen the important stuff so they can keep the bad stuff.

~sgs

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RE: FW Dialog - 4/19/2009 6:33:26 AM   
amelliagrace


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Status: offline 		Good morning, Women - and the Men who occasionally read here as well,
 
Almost half my wardobe has come from Goodwill and Salvation Army...new, and with the tags still attached in many cases.  There are also a couple of outlet stores where I routinely snag excellent bargains.  Everything from $7.99 jeans for my son, to $3.99 corsets for another member of the family.  I'll admit it.  I really like Wacoal undies, but I'm not about to pay $19 -$25 for a pair of panties.  $2.99 works well, however.
 
A dear friend and I have an agreement with each other.  All gifts we exchange must meet at least one of the following criteria:
1.  Be purchased at a thrift store
2.  Be purchased at a yard sale.
3.  Proudly wear price tags clearly showing at least two mark downs.  Three is prefereable.
 
I buy in bulk.  The slow cooker and pressure cooker are my friends.  I love those huge bags of Birdseye Normandy blend veggies from the frozen food section of the Evil Empire, aka Walmart (a store which I generally avoid).  Two open air produce markets near me provide excellent quality, and often times lower prices than the grocery.  Baking a ham or turkey is something that I do on a regular basis, as my family can get several meals off of one, with considerable variety, and sandwiches, too.  Aldi has also become a friend.
 
As lightbulbs die, we are replacing them with those money saving - if aestheticly unpleasing - swirlies.  Under threat of severe bodily harm, the younger members of the household are becoming more cognizant of their energy usage, and turing off the lights when they leave a room.
 
I do my darndest to arrange my driving to accomodate as many objectives as possible, per gallon.
 
You're fellow tightwad -
Gracie

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RE: FW Dialog - 4/19/2009 7:15:16 AM   
amelliagrace


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Status: offline 		So there I was, walking down a somewhat miserable and complicated stretch of my life journey, when it happened.  A blast from my past appears.  Thirty one or two years since we met, twenty years since the last face to face, eight or so since the last phone conversation and email.
 
Life takes some seriously odd twists and turns.  About 29 years ago I ran in the opposite direction from this one.  Deliberately.  Not so now.  There is a stupid grin plastered on my face, even as I brace for the busted heart that is likely to come.  Life is too short to pass up the joys out of fear of the cardiac disasters.  Joy is in too scarce supply to pass it up when it presents itself.  Like, love, and lust take many forms....and each of them has something to recommend it, somethnig to detract from it.  All of them have a place, and a time, and a value.
 
Once upon a time, I was freely given strength, affection, adventure, exercise for my mind and shelter for my soul from that quarter.  I now have the opportunity to return at least part of that.  It is honor, privilege, and joy to do so, even if it is personally risky in some regards.  There is a special kind of beauty in relationships that span time and circumstance.  For me, there has always been comfort, peace, energy, and wonder in relationships of all stripes, with Men...and few things more glorious than a guy who knows you better than you know yourself in some ways,  and accepts all of it as "just Grace, and just Grace is good enough".
 
Yeppers.  I'm a sentimental slob.  No doubt about it.  Yes, I am completely out of my mind.  Life isn't optimal.  It simply does not go according to plan.  Even when it takes turns that make us blanche, or hold our breath, or scream, it is good stuff anyway.
 
Cardiac disasters, comedies of errors, Greek tagedies and all, it is good stuff, life is.
 
Gracie

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RE: FW Dialog - 4/21/2009 6:56:42 AM   
Sylverdawn


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Status: offline 		Dear Grace.. Well its been awhile since I tred these boards... but here is I am.. you move me to post... Live in the moment..each day is a percious gift.. tommorrow is not promised to us.. if you can live one single day of joy isnt that all we can ask..And if you live it day by day..then my dear who knows that bubble may never burst but if you live in expectation of the end you diminsh the gift you have been given..perhaps only by a little but dont you deserve dont we each deserve to know the fullness of the gift that the we are being given by the universe by your creator by God.. maybe even by lady luck..who knows.. Life is a rollarcoaster.. you paid the ticket price now enjoy the ride.. Dawn..


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RE: FW Dialog - 4/21/2009 7:04:57 AM   
Sylverdawn


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Status: offline 		As to things we do to save money.. We use craiglist to make purchases.. we also belong to a free cycle list... Basically what it is .. A list where people offer things they no long wish to use.. anything you think you might want to clear out of your home at no cost ... example..you cut a some trees down in your backyard.. now you need that cleared.. ok.. list it..some one needs fire wood.. comes and cuts it into pieces removes its.. cures it over the summer and voila .. free firewood for next winter.. You go through your garage and find you have several pieces of furniture that need some work but are still useable.. list it.. someone who loves refinishing furniture picks it up and Voila .. a new used bedroom dresser... etc.. everything from breast pumps to halloween costumes..*S*.. I love dfwfreecyle..

We have cut back on the types of meat we buy.. chicken and pork more often that steak... we have always been economical but now we are thrifty.. As, if you menu plan and I mean meal by meal and shop with a list you save money weekly shopping rather than monthly mean less waste.

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RE: FW Dialog - 6/1/2009 4:29:06 PM   
ElizabethAnne


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Status: offline 		Well hello Ladies,

It's been awhile, and thanks to a post by Orion, I thought perhaps it was time to resurrect this thread.  So what's been going on with you and yours?    Our house is fairly quiet, settling into a summer type routine, the garden is coming along nicely, and Brule has gotten 7 strawberries.   This year...the rabbits thus far have gotten none.  Yes, we are keeping tally.  Our good friends in Iowa gave Brule a picture, his face on Elmer Fudd's body, saying..."those pesky rabbits''.  All in good nature fun.
In return, we took all the labels off Natalie's very organized cupboards, oh yes indeedy, the shock on her face....priceless.  

I was asked...what do we as free women do?  hmm....so how do we answer that?  Peek into our lives, and  you'll find darn normal living, with a mortgage and an SUV.   Nothing really exciting, we just ...well live. 

I am not the most verbose of the free women that post here, not by far.  Don't even try to make that claim ever.   How about the rest of you?  What could you tell this person that asked....to look into the life of a Gorean free woman.   I will say there are times I HATE doing the right thing, I want to take the easy way out.   But, when push comes to shove, I don't.  Not saying I wouldn't like to, but, I just have this thing that nags at me (my conscious) and even when I think I want to take the easy road, I know I simply cannot.  And yes there are times it has cost me.   But I know I can look into the mirror, and be at peace.

So ladies...what say you?  How is your summer going?  

Take care,

Liz

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RE: FW Dialog - 6/1/2009 7:21:15 PM   
KarRagnon


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Status: offline 		Particular Red Headed FW seem to like to try and torment Tuchuks, so lest us not leave that out of the question as to what FW do with some of their time.....chuckles

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RE: FW Dialog - 6/1/2009 8:11:16 PM   
Cherylmazana


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Status: offline 		There has been a major shift in my life, mainly caused by the aftermath of my mum’s death, changing working hours and concentrating on home and family more.

I have basically stepped away from the internet and the countless circular arguments and instead decided to spend more time dealing with life, those I love and removing pointless stress from my life.

Life is too short to spend it glued to a computer screen, it’s for living and enjoying this beautiful world we live in. in this last 6 months I have seen more of my country than I had in years.

Being Gorean isn’t about going on-line and discussing being Gorean it is about living life to the full realising that you really cannot say what tomorrow will bring so drink wine, live life to the full and love with a passion those you care for.

Goreans loved life, and life is not a computer.

Cheryl

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RE: FW Dialog - 6/1/2009 11:14:23 PM   
Maahsatti


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Status: offline 		Hello Cheryl,

  First let me say, I am sorry for your loss dear Lady and second, everything you have stated in your post is the absolute truth and really nothing more be added to it..
Life is about living not talking about living and not to be wasted on useless games and played emotions online or off line.

I wish you all the best,
Babs


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Gorean women, whether slave or Free,know, that their simple presence, brings joy to men,and I cannot think but that this pleases them.
Outlaw of Gor, pg 54

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RE: FW Dialog - 6/2/2009 7:51:36 AM   
Sylverdawn


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Status: offline 		dear Liz.. Life is what life is.. gorean .. or not..  you simply have to deal with it.. however.. living in a gorean household..  free women walk a fine line.. they must always remember that they live with a gorean male and that brings challenges in itself.. they have to learn how to maintain their personal autonomy without tweaking the beast so to speak.. They live in a way a life of service .. not in the way that a slave does..but those principles put them in service to their spouse, partner, to their  family, to their faith, to their children. But that service is self determined service. I hope that make sense.. and remeber this is just my pov.Sincerely SD

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RE: FW Dialog - 6/2/2009 12:58:46 PM   
amelliagrace


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Hello there Ladies, and anyone else reading this thread -
 
Oh, wehre to begin....
 
I didn't get to go to Iowa...and that is nothing short of major suckage.
 
I'm at a rather complicated and difficult juncture on my life journey. There is joy, and satisfaction, challenge and hardship, reward and sacrifice in the life of this FW...and I suspect most any FW can say the same. Those things are part and parcel of life, be it the life of a Free Man, Free Woman, or slave. The specifics are somewhat different is all. The challenges vary, the form joys and rewards take may be different. But no matter who you are, life is life, and much of the stuff of life is simply endemic to the human condition.
 
As for my own specifics:
 
The last 12 months have been more taxing and stressful than my norm - which is stressful enough, lol. Much to my chagrin, this is shaping up to be the summer of "patching up the old gray mare", who ain't what she used to be. I'm standing here saying, "I don't have time to deal with this stuff; I have a life to live", and the body says in reply, "Deal with it, Woman, cuz you're living will have a whole lot less quality, and you'll get a lot less done, if try ignoring what needs doing with the chasis." I may be grumbling about it, but I'm resigned to working on the chasis, lest I find myself stuck on the side of the road, with life passing by at warp speed.
 
This was to be the summer of returning to college. Woman makes plans, God laughs, so the saying goes. It isn't exactly as I'd planned it to be, but I am currently taking one class, and will be starting another shortly. Getting to the education goal is going to require longer, and a more circuituous route than I'd planned, but I'll get there.
 
On the parenting, front...well...I haven't killed anyone yet...and that is bloody damned amazing, given what's going on there!
 
The economy is forcing me to make vocational changes. I'm less than thrilled, but this isn't something worthy of copious lament.
 
Relationships...
 
That one gets complicated, quickly. Suffice it to say, "It was the best of times, it was the worst of times". Love, like life itself, is nothing if not an adventure. I'm learning a lot. Some of the lessons are things of exquisite beauty, while others are filled with grief, saddness, and resignation. Still, no lesson I've ever learned on the relationship front has ever been without value...it is just that some of them have a more painful price tag, and some are not as enjoyable so others.
 
I think my theme for this summer may turn out to be, "Live free or die hard."
 
Gracie

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RE: FW Dialog - 6/2/2009 4:45:59 PM   
ElizabethAnne


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Status: offline 		Heya Ladies!

Thanks for the replies!  Cheryl, good to see you here, if only briefly; Babs, I agree life is for the living, and as I am getting older, I see it more and more.  I would love to believe in reincarnation, to think I could get another shot at this living thing.  There's MANY things I would do differently; SD - I agree, being a free woman does mean service, not in a slave way, but still service nonetheless.  I enjoy looking after my family, my Mom used to say, the "mother" was the heart of the home.  Sure it's kinda corny, but I believe very true.   And perhaps this is my ego, but I like to think when I am in Lexington and not home, things are not quite as bright here without me.  (please, if you know differently, let me live in my ignorant bliss! ha ha)  And dear Grace, hang on baby, the best may very well yet to be for you!  One thing about it, things are never boring!

I have been reading with interest about respect/manners on both the girls' thread and Olaf's thread, and I thought about posting this there, but chose to bring it here.   Several years ago, when I was new at this free woman thing, I used to be all about "titles"....I "expected" to be called Mistress, by any sub, slave didn't matter.   geeeesh.....how arrogant and self serving, and perhaps even a tad bit insecure I was then.  I recall speaking to Kim about it, and listening to how she thought, and I thought that's fine, I still "want" the "title".  Well....let's fast forward a few years, unless I know a girl is owned by a Gorean man, I frankly don't care so much about the "title".   I much prefer the show of respect, or manners by what they say to me, not so much how they address me.   There are a couple of submissive women who call me Mz Liz....to me that is the best.  They do so...not because they "have" to, they do so because they "want' to.    I find it very endearing, and I'm  just a little bit proud of the fact I believe I have earned their respect.

Now, before you all think I've gone soft and everything, let me assure you, I DO expect manners at all times.  And those that do not display common courtesy will be dealth with...by stone cold silence.   Those that cannot display a modicum of common courtesy, I have no use for at all.   Including those that start with...with all due respect.  BAH!  I am tuned out right then.  Hey if someone HAS to preface what they are going to say with those words...shut up.  Just shut up.  It's like the old days, in a chat room, when a slave would say..."as you wish".  DARN tootin' as I wish. THAT goes without saying.

I wish you all well,

Liz


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RE: FW Dialog - 6/2/2009 7:06:28 PM   
Maahsatti


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quote:

I used to be all about "titles"....I "expected" to be called Mistress, by any sub, slave didn't matter. geeeesh.....how arrogant and self serving, and perhaps even a tad bit insecure I was then.


Hi Liz,
I would not say that you were any of those things, because you expected to be addressed in a certain manner. However IF that is what you feel your expectation of such was coming from, then thats different.

Again however, I am a woman who has certain expectations in many things and how I am addressed by slaves/submissives is just one of them as you know, frankly because...you know me....Not even the smallest of reasons for me comes from any of those reasons you mentioned for yourself above. and I feel many other woman who feel as I do have their own reasons as well.

I am not new and I still hold to my belief and I am not going to pull back, kow tow or loosen up on my beliefs and standards just because it may make someone feel uncomfortable or angry.
While, I will not take some childish hissy fit if I am not addressed in the way that I prefer, I just simply will examine the reason why the particular person is so against it and then determine if it is out of a genuine serious reason or just some dumb power struggle, stubborn match.

I will say in my experience though, unfortunately most times it has been for the less attractive reason. So my response then is to simply ignore that person. No big scene, no pissing match...just..done.

I know that you have noticed as well as I Liz, the major changes that have occured in our lifestyle over the years and not for the better. I know you know, because we have spoken at length about it. It bothers you as much as it does me.

I am not focused only on how a Free is addressed though, it goes way beyond simple titles and such, the disrespect, the dwindling honor and truth, where does it end?..where does anyone come in and say...enough...That is enough and I have had enough?..should we even say enough, or should we just go on turning a blind eye, allowing double standards to rule and quietly accept that it is just tough crap, so deal with it?...lol

Bah, not for me, not yet anyways, I tend to be a little bit more die hard.

Take care,
Babs


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RE: FW Dialog - 6/2/2009 8:30:17 PM   
Cherylmazana


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Status: offline 		The title thing is an interesting subject it is one of the easiest ways to see what a slave and often their owner is like.

For myself I expect to be called Mistress by any slave who calls themselves a Gorean slave, owned or not. If they don’t then I look to see if the reason is themselves or their owner more often than not with an owned slave its their owner, and with an un-owned slave its usually because they want the trappings of being a Gorean slave without the mental changes that make a slave.

I won’t be rude or demand to be called Mistress, I don’t see the point of lowering myself to their level and in all honesty we do not live on Gor and I am not a petulant free woman with a knife to cut off the ears of any slave that displeases me.

But I often wonder why they are so insecure as to refuse to use a title that simply shows they have accepted who and what they wish to be, maybe because in their hearts they haven’t?

Cheryl

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RE: FW Dialog - 6/2/2009 8:35:17 PM   
Maahsatti


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Status: offline 		Hi Cheryl,

Beautifully stated. I wish I had your ability to get my point across as clearly as you.

take care,
Babs


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Gorean women, whether slave or Free,know, that their simple presence, brings joy to men,and I cannot think but that this pleases them.
Outlaw of Gor, pg 54

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RE: FW Dialog - 6/2/2009 9:29:25 PM   
Falaria


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Status: offline 		Hello Gracie,
 
Oh yes, the challenges of life, the good, the bad and the ugly.  I can understand and relate with what you are saying with regards to your life as mine seems to be going along the same way: body not recouperating like it use to or doing things like it use to; parenting has been challenging and will get more so as my youngest starts high school next year and has started dating; and relationships, like yours it gets a bit complicated when trying to explain that, just not sure where that one is going right now.
 
I was having a discussion with a co-worker and we got to talking about karma.  She said that she believes in it for the things she did as a teenager seem to be coming back at her in spades!!  I told her that I also believe in karma, but the way things have been going for me the past couple of years I am starting to think and feel that I must have been extremely bad in a previous life and probably being repaid for it in those lives after that one, this one and probably a few dozen more after this one.  But I know that I do have my blessings and things to be thankful for, my kids, my job, my home, my family and my friends.  I know it is hard at times to see those blessings when things get hard, but I eventually do.
 
Sorry, didn't mean to rant. 
 
May we all live free, live well and laugh alot, especially when we need it.
 
Falaria

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RE: FW Dialog - 6/3/2009 4:02:46 AM   
ElizabethAnne


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Status: offline 		Hello Babs,

Yes, I agree, Cheryl stated it perfectly.   I do wish I had better writing abilities!   And like her I agree, slaves that are owned by Gorean or desire to be owned by Gorean, I absolutely DO expect to be called by "Mistress".  Perhaps I was not clear enough on that point.

Babs, back in the day, I am talking about our Yahoo chat days, we (Goreans) kept ourselves fairly secluded.  I don't recall a lot of cross over with non Goreans, we basically stayed to ourselves.  (during User room days)  And if a new girl came over to a Gorean room, she was prepared, at least semi prepared at what was expected.   So naturally since the girl was more or less prepared, she would use titles, and if she didn't, well she found out toot sweet, and she either obliged, or.... 

I think the difference today is, especially in Collar Me, is the influx of soooo many other beliefs.   When a girl's Master has instructed NOT to call anyone Master/Mistress, who am I to go against a girl's owner?  In fact jo has been instructed to call people what THEY want to be called.  Most she uses Master/Mistress and there are few Sir/Ma'am.  However, most of our friends know we are Gorean, and accept her use of Master/Mistress.  Sorta like..when in Rome. 

And as Cheryl said, how the girl addresses, how the girl acts is far more a reflection on her owner, than on her.   There is another server that I post on, and what I see there is even MORE lax.   They use it almost like conversation, no headings, no salutations.   It's  treated as a dialogue between people, which I find highly annoying.  So I have two choices, either be a bitch and try to "demand", or simply continue the way I post, and see if using consistent grammar will be a subtle hint.  

I believe the key to it is consistency.   Which if I am persistant long enough, and always remain consistent, perhaps, to use a phrase from Bobbi, "they'll come around to Mama's way of thinkin'.  For those of you who knew her, you all can hear her say that.  I won't change my standards, I won't change my beliefs.  The display of manners is always tantamount.   We often talk about other cultures, Celeste mentioned that, as I expect others to respect mine, I in turn need to respect theirs.

I think the books also show this, Tarl in his journey on Gor encountered many many different cultures.  He adapted to their cultures without losing what he believed in.

Take care,

Liz  

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