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RE: How to Address a Kajira - 9/4/2005 9:01:40 AM

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RE: How to Address a Kajira - 9/4/2005 9:54:54 AM

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The only so-called Gorean group I know of with a fighting style of their own is the Tuchux. They are based in Pittsburgh and have been around about 35 years or so. They are fantasy barbarians who took a Gorean name years ago. They also fight with the SCA a lot and do fight as a unit at the SCA's Pennsic Wars.

The Tuchux aren't Gorean, though their name might be. Though they may have Gorean memebers, the group itself is not.

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RE: How to Address a Kajira - 9/4/2005 11:28:56 AM

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The Tuchux I have fought along side of have always seemed Gorean to me. (In certain behaviors, protection of their women-folk, very strict code of honor, etc.) Maybe next time, I'll ask em.

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RE: How to Address a Kajira - 9/4/2005 2:41:02 PM

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Tuchux - Fantasy Barbarians with a pagan background based in the USA with affiliates in scandinavia. Although they have been known to 'play' with the SCA - the SCA disassociate themselves with Tuchux. Similar to nomadic group of Gor with rituals that are almost exact, but not many will admit so openly - but then, some will.

Tuchuks - Wagon Peoples of Gor. The word Tuchux and T'chuk or Nomads are words used also.

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RE: How to Address a Kajira - 9/4/2005 3:21:01 PM

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No good running, We have dogs..they'll hunt you down....hehehhehehehehe.

yes, but I have ... I have ... I could ...

oh dear ...

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RE: How to Address a Kajira - 9/4/2005 10:34:04 PM

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It amazes me how much Gor is like an early forming religion...

I think it's really interesting that you brought up this point Taggard. I was asking someone who has been in the lifestyle (BDSM, not Gor) for a very long time and is well respected (and no, I'm not divulging his name without his permission) about Gor. His analogy was basically Gor to BDSM was the same as Catholics to Episocalians, or Baptists, or Lutherans, etc. Heck, then I thought of Orthodox Jews vs. Reform or even Conservative Jews.

Everytime a group breaks off from an established (in this case) religion, the argument "our way is better than your way" comes up. Looking at it from this perspective makes things very clear to me, as well as way less annoying!

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RE: How to Address a Kajira - 9/5/2005 6:51:41 AM

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Tuchux - Fantasy Barbarians with a pagan background based in the USA with affiliates in scandinavia. Although they have been known to 'play' with the SCA - the SCA disassociate themselves with Tuchux. Similar to nomadic group of Gor with rituals that are almost exact, but not many will admit so openly - but then, some will.

Tuchuks - Wagon Peoples of Gor. The word Tuchux and T'chuk or Nomads are words used also.

Peace and Love

Thanks DarkAngel. I know them through their association to the SCA (one of my partner's friends does both). They're fantasy/chivalry, but certainly no more Gor based than the SCA is--which also has a definate code etc.

For one thing, women fight :)

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RE: How to Address a Kajira - 9/5/2005 1:35:04 PM

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greetings cello...

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ORIGINAL: cellogrrlMK

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Everytime a group breaks off from an established (in this case) religion, the argument "our way is better than your way" comes up. Looking at it from this perspective makes things very clear to me, as well as way less annoying!

cello

The only problem with that cello is that Goreans did not break off of any group. It is an independent formation. Yes, some Gorean have come through BDSM. Some have not. It is more like early Christian sects evolving independently of each other than splits of later religions.

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RE: How to Address a Kajira - 9/6/2005 5:59:56 AM

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That is so incredibly fascinating...and quite common amongst early religious texts. Modifications to the original holy text by prophets was a common strategy used by one group to change the direction (in other words, take control) of a religion.

Different time, different motivation. Nobody that I know of is producing electronic copies of the books in order to take control of the "religion". The motivation is simple larceny. The books are readily available on the second hand market, but it's pretty expensive to amass a set (many of them go for 25 dollars or more). Electronic copies of the books are passed around for the same reason that electronic music gets passed around; to keep from paying for it.

You will find web sites out there with "quotes" from the books that don't actually appear in the books. These are usually created by role-players who have never seen the books, and who posted the "quote" to validate how they role-play, probably in response to someone telling them that what they're doing isn't authentic. You will also see quotes from the books that have been carefully excised out of context to prove some claim or another about what "real Goreans" do, again, to prove or disprove the authenticity of what someone is doing in a role-play chatroom. That is about as close to the "false-prophet" syndrome that you describe as I have seen.

What we do won't ever be a religion. What religions all have in common is that they deal with what happens after you die. Those that posit that anything happens after you die prescribe a set of behaviors that, presumably, will lead to a better outcome for you after death, whether you move on to some other form of existance or are reborn into this one. Regardless of what you may or may not think about religions, living Gorean isn't one. It only deals with the here-and-now, not the hereafter.

The only folks who get wrapped around the axel about what the books do or don't say, or whether "Urth" appears or not are role-players, who tend to get passionate about how authentic their play is (or, more accurately, how authentic the other guy's play isn't). Those kinds of debates don't really have much relevance to those of us who live this way, since we aren't trying to adopt a role-play persona that emulates characters in the novels.

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RE: How to Address a Kajira - 9/6/2005 8:03:37 AM

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Magicians of Gor is the most expensive one, it go for 50 buks esay, and therefore is a werry expensive second hand fantasy book.

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RE: How to Address a Kajira - 9/6/2005 1:47:29 PM

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Surely however you wish?

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RE: How to Address a Kajira - 9/6/2005 3:40:41 PM

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Hehehe true well said.

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RE: How to Address a Kajira - 2/6/2006 11:15:33 AM

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Where in the world is "here" if there is blood shed? does it have anything to do with the picture of the very sexy man in your post?

Sorry, got distracted by the sexy man in the uniform. I personally like trollop or a man to just look at me snap his fingers and point at his feet. I think the last one is in a very universal language.

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RE: How to Address a Kajira - 2/6/2006 11:48:58 AM

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Thank you so much for the info. I have have been browsing around now on Pennsic and have seen a great photo of the Tuchux in armour. Looks like the next battle is in August. I so want to go.

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