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Master1825 -> Mentors (1/29/2008 11:06:06 AM)

I hope that I am putting this in the right place. I have a couple of questions about Mentors.

One is, What is others opinion about having a Mentor, or looking for a Mentor?

Second is, Where would one begin to look for a Dom Mentor?

I think that is what I am looking for, just kind of someone that I can turn to when I have a problem or a personal question about something.

I know that subs/slaves go through training, so I guess what my big question is what is others opinions on a Dom Mentor?




DiurnalVampire -> RE: Mentors (1/29/2008 11:12:13 AM)

When I was staring out, I had a mentor. She found me and introduced me to the lifestyle. I have mentored others, since I foud her to have been a valuable asset. She did hands on training, as well as answered even the stupid questions. If there was something she didnt know, she told me so and helped me find soeone who did.
The important thing is to get to kow and trust someone before allowing them to mentor you.  A teacher has to actualy know what they are teaching or they do you no good as the student. Find someone who shares your interests and talk to them. See if theyd be interested in helping you learn.

DV




ProlificNeeds -> RE: Mentors (1/29/2008 11:30:02 AM)

I've never had an 'official' mentor, looking back I had some good friends and was offered great advice from some people who cared. That was enough for me.




celticlord2112 -> RE: Mentors (1/29/2008 11:40:46 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Master1825

I hope that I am putting this in the right place. I have a couple of questions about Mentors.

One is, What is others opinion about having a Mentor, or looking for a Mentor?

Second is, Where would one begin to look for a Dom Mentor?

I think that is what I am looking for, just kind of someone that I can turn to when I have a problem or a personal question about something.

I know that subs/slaves go through training, so I guess what my big question is what is others opinions on a Dom Mentor?


Those with experience mentor those without.  That is the order of things.

If by "Dom Mentor" you mean someone to guide and counsel you in learning how to dominate and rule slaves, the best place to look is in your immediate circle of friends and acquaintances.  Look for someone you know, trust, respect, and who is in the lifestyle.  Ask what he does with his slaves and why.

I would also suggest that you not confine yourself to a single "mentor".  Observe and learn from all you encounter, then apply those lessons to your own path.




LadyHugs -> RE: Mentors (1/29/2008 12:11:27 PM)

Dear Master 1825, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
I think there will be a lot of arguments to the positives and or negatives about "mentors."
 
Personally, I think everybody directly and or indirectly 'inspires' individuals and or is accomidating to show techniques, skills and or sharing of their knowledge and I would say, that everybody mentors, even on Collarme.com in some form and or fashion.  I do identify as a mentor, in my local community and enjoy watching those I have stood along side and given tips, new skills and knowledge to, grow from the foundations I help installed.  I have filled the position of instructor, demonstrator and presenter as well.  Each is a different 'slant' per se on teaching and inspiring others.
 
Many times people have come to me after a scene has concluded and asked for advice on things like single tails, floggers, canes and the like.  Which I find a delightful way to offer my findings, thoughts and roots to how I do things.  I like to show how to save you money, as far as correcting a flaw in a piece of leather that has been braided into a flogger or realign a single tail so it will travel straighter, etc.
 
In finding a mentor, I would look for someone who is practicing the skill/knowledge that conforms to your own personal tastes.  I wouldn't expect you to be put into the position of 'submission' or in an embarrassing situation--especially in public.  Feeling a tool isn't what I call submission but, understanding the sensation that can come from a particular item, e.g. canes, floggers and such.  I would try finding someone who is not entrenched in one style, one way of doing things but, find someone who is multi-talented as to problem solve a certain technical issue in style/performance of what you're looking for as far as whip work mentoring.  In life relationship mentoring, such as a Master-slave mentoring as far as a relationship goes-- I would look for someone who wishes to conduct their relationships in a similar style and or form; for example-- I am very protocol minded.  I tend to link myself with active, inactive and or veterans of military service, to which practice a form of protocol that is familiar in the military and transposed 'loosely' into private Master-slave relationships.  This might not work for some and yet, be exactly what some others seek. 
 
I would find someone to mentor you, who will be the utmost respectful to you and want to help you find your own style/way of Domination and or Sadism.  I would find someone who does not put unreasonable conditions on you and or your slave(s).  I would find someone to mentor you who will stick to the exact area you wish to be mentored on; e.g. whip skills, service, protocol, bondage, etc.  I would find someone that will be discreet and always considerate of your privacy and safety.  I would look for a mentor who is not sexually geared.  I would look for a mentor who would be more willing to be at your side, not pulling you along and never give you a chance to practice, experiment and problem solve something and to tweak your technique as to make it perfect for you.  I would not be blind to any opportunity to be mentored by younger and or older individuals, and those who fall in between.  I would not be blind to the opportunity to be mentored by any gender and or gender preferenced individuals.  I say this, because I have mentored more male Dominants then female Dominants.  I would look for a mentor who is secure enough as to never sway you from learning from other mentors.  I would not look for mentors who request, demand, expect and or assume they are to be paid and or compensated -- unless you broke their equipment and its just the right thing to do to replace it and or compensate someone, as to buy a replacement.  My opinion of what a mentor's ethical behavior would be -- to never 'take over' your relationship but, be your most sincere cheerleader and supporter who won't quit on you when you feel like quitting.
 
Just some thoughts.
 
Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs




Rover -> RE: Mentors (1/29/2008 1:17:53 PM)

You're not a young female submissive with ample... eyes.  So it's not likely that Mentors are going to flock to you, unless you have something else that they want.  A kewl beachfront home would suffice.
 
A legitimate Mentoring relationship is based upon the same qualities often associated with any good relationship... compatibility, mutual respect, mutual trust, etc.  So it's not likely that you can simply go out there and "find" a Mentor.  If it happens, you'll simply develop a friendship with someone that will become a Mentoring relationship, with or without the title.  Or you may find that several people are your Mentors, but you call them "friends".
 
If your interest is online BDSM then you'll likely find them amongst your online friends.  And if your interest is in real time BDSM it's more likely that you'll find them amongst your real time friends (which may necessitate becoming active in your local lifestyle community).
 
Regardless of where you find this friend/Mentor, it has been my personal experience that the "best" (completely subjective term relative to my opinion) Mentors are not some sort of oracle that spews answers for you and your life.  On the contrary, it has been my experience that they are the ones that ask the questions, and you provide the answers for yourself.  No one can decide what is "right" for you... only you can do that for yourself.
 
John




thetammyjo -> RE: Mentors (1/29/2008 2:26:38 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Master1825

I hope that I am putting this in the right place. I have a couple of questions about Mentors.

One is, What is others opinion about having a Mentor, or looking for a Mentor?

Second is, Where would one begin to look for a Dom Mentor?

I think that is what I am looking for, just kind of someone that I can turn to when I have a problem or a personal question about something.

I know that subs/slaves go through training, so I guess what my big question is what is others opinions on a Dom Mentor?


I don't believe in having one mentor.

I believe in having several -- different skills, different opinions = more for you to learn from.

Look in your local community. Find people who have skills or ideas you find attractive. Ask them if you may speak with them or learn from them.

That's what I did when we were in NYC for 5 years. One person taught me flogging, another rope bondage, another knife play, another about politics and BDSM, etc.

If you don't have a local community -- by local I mean can you drive there in two hours once or twice a month? -- you might try people who've written books or articles you have found particular interesting or useful. Be warned though that those folks can get a lot of email so that may go no where.

Ideally a mentor not only teaches what she knows but also encourages you to explore and think for yourself, posing questions and scenarios, sharing their own experiences, and suggesting others when what you want to learn is something they don't feel qualified to teach.




fullofgrace69 -> RE: Mentors (1/29/2008 2:30:38 PM)

ive never had a mentor so to speak i'm just lucky that i've got amazing friends on the scene who are always there to answer any random and varied questions i have :)




SimplyMichael -> RE: Mentors (1/29/2008 2:44:14 PM)

Having a mentor is great, finding a great mentor is hard.




robertolapiedra -> RE: Mentors (1/29/2008 2:45:24 PM)

Hello Master1825. Just read posts and keep posting. Eventually you will find that there is a lot of "mentoring" going on here.

If you want, you can go private on this site with private E-mail. Also, you may be lucky enough to have someone who lives near you.

I would suggest having an open mind to all mentoring, including male female dominants and subs of either sexual orientation.  One last thing, I do not recommend scening with mentors. This should be kept on another level altogether in my opinion.RL





MasterFireMaam -> RE: Mentors (1/29/2008 3:06:10 PM)

I think it's important to have a Mentor. I had one. Even though she and I aren't in contact anymore, I still turn to other Masters for advice. Your best bet is to get involved in your local community. Watch people and how they carry themselves, act and such. Ask questions. Find training programs (I recommend Butchmanns if you have a spiritual bent or Master Taino's Master's Training). Talk to lots of different people, take what works and leave the rest.

Master Fire




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Mentors (1/29/2008 4:08:24 PM)

The main point is to know what you want to be mentored in and find someone who is good at that.  Basically, if you don't know what you want in a mentor or how to use good judgement, then you are doomed at the start.

Which is perhaps 1 in 500 of the actual people who would call themselves a "mentor" to you.

Why the need to find ONE person, rather than taking something from everyone?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_519882/mpage_1/key_mentoring/tm.htm#519990
What exactly is a mentor supposed to do for/with a submissive?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_95421/mpage_1/key_mentors/tm.htm#95421
Mentors/Protectors for newbies dom/domme?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_139851/mpage_1/key_mentors/tm.htm#139851
Out of my depth, patience and its virtues

http://www.collarchat.com/m_149477/mpage_1/key_mentors/tm.htm#149477
My advice for novice female submissives

http://www.collarchat.com/m_210166/mpage_1/key_mentors/tm.htm#210166
Mentors, what are they and how do they help?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_283883/mpage_1/key_mentors/tm.htm#283883
Mentors

http://www.collarchat.com/m_493886/mpage_1/key_mentors/tm.htm#493886
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CelticPrince -> RE: Mentors (1/30/2008 9:47:17 AM)

1825,

You probably seek a male dominant to be comfortable with, so the most direct approach is to review male"D"s profiles and look for one that will mentor.
Then send a note and ask.

CP




ToysAndTies -> RE: Mentors (1/30/2008 11:10:40 AM)

I don't know about other people, but I find munches to be the best place to make new friends and even find mentors.  Just to clarify, I don't see mentoring and being under "someone's protection" to be the same thing.  The former to me seems like an apprentice ship to learn the tricks of the trade, and the latter...hell, I don't even know what that means.




ThundersCry -> RE: Mentors (1/30/2008 5:08:12 PM)

Great post LadyHugs...
 
Simply Michael...excellent.
 
 




creatrix -> RE: Mentors (1/30/2008 8:59:48 PM)

okay, but I have a question...
so a Dom/Master would be mentored, but a sub/slave would be trained?  or could a sub/slave have a mentor also?
yeah, obviously I haven't much experience... but just curious about this particular aspect of the lifestyle.
I have not seen reference to anything other than a sub/slave being trained only my their current Dom/Master.
thanks!




SimplyMichael -> RE: Mentors (1/30/2008 11:03:13 PM)

creatrix,

Anyone can be mentored, the trick is finding someone who's only goal is feeding you knowledge rather than cock and or bull.

Training someone to serve someone else is 2/3 of the time bullshit and I am being generous.

Most often both are used by people who can't get actual relationships or who can't say "just use me".

A great mentor is a wonderful thing but often you can't tell the great ones from the assholes till afterwards.




creatrix -> RE: Mentors (1/30/2008 11:25:33 PM)

thank you simplymichael
I will be wary if I do find a possible endeavor





CNJDom -> RE: Mentors (1/31/2008 5:08:16 AM)

In this lifestyle, mentoring is a natural part of BDSM communities, and I feel is built in due to stressing what is safe and unsafe wether you're reading a "how-to" book, or going to meetings/munches, or even play parties/clubs where there individuals there (hopefully) that watch over everyone to ensure safety for all involved.  So to keep an open mind and open eyes, ask questions and inquire from others on whatever aspect of BDSM you'd like to learn from....they're out there willing to help (not going to bring up the lifestyle snob-thing here) others and share with you usually.  There are also organizations like TES, and the like that will also give advise and with all the other great people that have posted here so far, then I'm confident you'll be fine.




Dnomyar -> RE: Mentors (1/31/2008 5:11:57 AM)

Great post DV. I agree with you 100%. Mentors give advice. They don't tell you to drop your drawers.




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