MarcusofAr
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A quote made by one person stating that all Goreans feel a certain way, is not any kind of proof. Even if it is John Normans belief, it does not make it actually true, even with a society he created.
On the contrary. A quote by one person stating that Goreans feel a certain way, provided that person is John Norman, is indisputably the ONLY PROOF WE HAVE.
Everything else is supposition.
The farther one goes from what Norman actually defines as "Gorean" in his books, the farther one gets from actually describing what can logically be called Gorean in any sense of the word, until eventually one is so far off track from Norman's original basis that one's concept no longer has anything to do with Gor at all. And you wind up with "Kaotians" and the like.
Many of the ideas and philosophical viewpoints developed in the Gor books predated those works, and were chosen by John Norman as specific elements which he included within them, for his own reasons and according to his own choice.
Those things, those ideas, and those concepts, weren't "Gorean" before he assembled them so.
He MADE THEM Gorean, by so assembling them.
Where else can we reasonably look for indisputable evidence of what constitutes "Gorean," if not in his works?
From where, in your opinion, does such information come, if not from that source?
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In some ways, Tarl led the world into a modern war situation. Every where he went he united people and had them agree at help him if he called. So wars slowly became a lot bigger.
Tarl had little to do, personally, with the events that led to the continental war described in Vagabonds of Gor and Magicians of Gor. He was involved, and knew many of the main players at various points in the process, but he was mostly swept along with it, trying to stay alive. In almost every instance when he tried to directly interfere-- at Ar's Station, in the Vosk delta... he winds up in chains and almost gets killed for having done so.
He doesn't really cause the "Earth style" total war, for mercantile economic gain, that Cos launches against Ar, largely fought by mercenaries and intended to strip the wealth from Ar in a different way than would normally occur. Lurius of Jad and his allies dream that up all by themselves. And unlike in the first book, when the Priest-Kings brought Tarl to Gor to prevent such an Empire from rising under Marlenus-- this time, there is no one to stop it.
He does, however, RECOGNIZE what's going on, and implies many times that such a thing, though not typically Gorean, is similar to the kind of thing that happens on Earth.
I wish you well,
_Marcus_
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