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"Training" - 2/24/2008 9:43:52 PM   
EvilKitty


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I'm trying to find "someone" on CM & have questions about submissives profiles. I sometimes find profiles of people in my area, but often don't contact them if their profiles say things like, "Want to be trained; the longer the session the better". They say they must remain discrete & do not wish to attend local fetish events. The profiles say they do not wish to meet pro-dommes, but lifestylers.  I'm uncertain how to translate that. All my pro-domme friends ARE lifestylers. Normally, the people I see with them at parties may have BEGUN as clients, but have graduated to personal subs. Clients are not normally brought to parties. If a submissive can only come to my home or a motel to submit to me, doesn't that imply that I'm in the profession? If I ask for service in return for my attention to them, does that mean I'm not "lifestyle" enough?
I know, I'm rambling; hard to express my confusions sometimes. What does a sub wish to be "trained" in? What are they looking for? I am willing to spend time planning playtime, making certain that the person subbing to me has not placed their trust wrongly, making certain no harm comes to them....  I do not have sex with them, so I cannot accept offers of oral "service", & I'd really rather have a good footrub.
Is there anyone here who understands better than I apparently do?
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RE: "Training" - 2/24/2008 9:47:18 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: EvilKitty
I know, I'm rambling; hard to express my confusions sometimes. What does a sub wish to be "trained" in? What are they looking for? I am willing to spend time planning playtime, making certain that the person subbing to me has not placed their trust wrongly, making certain no harm comes to them....  I do not have sex with them, so I cannot accept offers of oral "service", & I'd really rather have a good footrub.
Is there anyone here who understands better than I apparently do?
Lady Cat
-the Evil Kitty

The specifics contexts to which you speak, those people basically want a no strings attached affair, usually because they are married, and are either unable to pay or cannot bear the "disgrace" of paying and try to still get what they want, on their terms.

When they say "trained" they mean "anything you are willing to do to me that also gets me hot."

Now, again, this is in THIS specific context to which you mean.  It's also an answer to what dorky doms who go around saying "I'm going to train you to be a good sub" is- they have no real idea other than lots of blow jobs, but they know the TERM and IDEA of being "trained" gets subs hot and distracted and that's all they really need.

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RE: "Training" - 2/24/2008 9:55:02 PM   
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Hi,

I can only give you what I as a sub would mean with that on my profile, I in no way think this is true for everyone!

  • I want to be trained- When I write in my profile I want to be trained then for me it means I am open to trying new things, and experiences new groups of BDSM. Old Guard, Gor, Daddy play, things like that. Or it could be someone brand new to the scene.
  • The longer the session the better- Hmm...Not sure about this becuase I would never put this. To me this is saying, If you are going to scene with me better make sure you plan enough thinkgs to keep me entertained for a few hours, instead of letting the scene take its natural course.
  • Discrete- Hey, I put this becuase I do want discrete. I have no desire for my family, neighbors, childhood friends to know what I am. I am a privet person, I don't ask my grandmother about her sex life, she dosent need to know about mine! But there are some people who like public play, you know the lead me on a leash and call me the "Cunt whore cock loving slave" in public. I find though that most prefer discreet.
  • Dosent want to be apart of the local scene- I was apart of the scene and heard that phrase so many times and it seemed odd to me. I liked it, was nice to socialize, and people usually took lenghts to keep it all privet. But being out of it I realize just how much drama there is in it! Plus I have heard of coworkers being apart of the same scene group and awkwardness afterwards in realizing it. Some people just dont want that!
  • Pro Domme to me is someone who will Dominate me for money or tributes. That may be totally off base, but that is what it is to me. I would prefer someone who wants to scene with me because they will enjoy my submission, they will get such an energy from my submitting that they naturally turn to domination of me. Not I pay you 300 dollars now tie me up please?

I hope this made since!
Anne

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RE: "Training" - 2/24/2008 10:02:21 PM   
CharmedAnne


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quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

The specifics contexts to which you speak, those people basically want a no strings attached affair, usually because they are married, and are either unable to pay or cannot bear the "disgrace" of paying and try to still get what they want, on their terms.

Wow I really disagree with this...Most of thoes things being discrete, no local scene, and no pro doms is what I look for and I am not married, attatched, or have problems paying for it, besides the fact that I dont want to pay for it. I would just rather sit on CM till I found someone who could offer what I wanted. I usually really like what you say, but man seemed like you were throwing away people looking to lead a lifestyle thats more quiet.

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When they say "trained" they mean "anything you are willing to do to me that also gets me hot."


Once again I think your completely wrong on this. I once had on my profile that I was interested in being trained in the gorean lifestyle. I am not a gorean, even after the training, but I was curious as to the lifestyle and wanted to give myself the full experience of it before I ruled it out as something I dont wish to be. Training is simply admitting you dont know anything about certain topics but you are willing to let someone else teach you.

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RE: "Training" - 2/24/2008 10:10:26 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: CharmedAnne

Hi,

I can only give you what I as a sub would mean with that on my profile, I in no way think this is true for everyone!
  • I want to be trained- When I write in my profile I want to be trained then for me it means I am open to trying new things, and experiences new groups of BDSM. Old Guard, Gor, Daddy play, things like that. Or it could be someone brand new to the scene.
  • The longer the session the better- Hmm...Not sure about this becuase I would never put this. To me this is saying, If you are going to scene with me better make sure you plan enough thinkgs to keep me entertained for a few hours, instead of letting the scene take its natural course.
  • Discrete- Hey, I put this becuase I do want discrete. I have no desire for my family, neighbors, childhood friends to know what I am. I am a privet person, I don't ask my grandmother about her sex life, she dosent need to know about mine! But there are some people who like public play, you know the lead me on a leash and call me the "Cunt whore cock loving slave" in public. I find though that most prefer discreet.
  • Dosent want to be apart of the local scene- I was apart of the scene and heard that phrase so many times and it seemed odd to me. I liked it, was nice to socialize, and people usually took lenghts to keep it all privet. But being out of it I realize just how much drama there is in it! Plus I have heard of coworkers being apart of the same scene group and awkwardness afterwards in realizing it. Some people just dont want that!
  • Pro Domme to me is someone who will Dominate me for money or tributes. That may be totally off base, but that is what it is to me. I would prefer someone who wants to scene with me because they will enjoy my submission, they will get such an energy from my submitting that they naturally turn to domination of me. Not I pay you 300 dollars now tie me up please?

I hope this made since!
Anne


This is mostly how I view things as well.  When I talk about training in regards to my relationship, I talk about being trained to where I'm most pleasing to my Owner.  This can range from sexual use to domestics.  She's trained me quite a bit in both areas.

The length of a "scene" doesn't matter to me.  It can go on for as long or as short as my Owner likes and I'll be pleased.

We're both relatively discrete.  We can live our lifestyle fully without exposing others to our way of doing things.  Neither of us really want to be a part of the local scene at all, above a few excursions every now and again.

And with Pro Dommes...  It's a job and it has its appeal to some submissives.  If people want to make money from it, and if people want to put money into it...then that's their business.  As long as they're not hurting others...then I can tolerate the concept.  If it's just another outlet for a married man to get away from his wife and kids...then I find it a lot harder to tolerate, personally.  That being said, I don't think people really -need- my support.

So yeah, I think that's my two cents on everything.  If it comes off a tad wobbly, please excuse me...  It's late and I'm going to be in bed in a second.

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RE: "Training" - 2/24/2008 10:11:10 PM   
EvilKitty


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quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

quote:

ORIGINAL: EvilKitty
I know, I'm rambling; hard to express my confusions sometimes. What does a sub wish to be "trained" in? What are they looking for? I am willing to spend time planning playtime, making certain that the person subbing to me has not placed their trust wrongly, making certain no harm comes to them....  I do not have sex with them, so I cannot accept offers of oral "service", & I'd really rather have a good footrub.
Is there anyone here who understands better than I apparently do?
Lady Cat
-the Evil Kitty

The specifics contexts to which you speak, those people basically want a no strings attached affair, usually because they are married, and are either unable to pay or cannot bear the "disgrace" of paying and try to still get what they want, on their terms.

When they say "trained" they mean "anything you are willing to do to me that also gets me hot."

Now, again, this is in THIS specific context to which you mean.  It's also an answer to what dorky doms who go around saying "I'm going to train you to be a good sub" is- they have no real idea other than lots of blow jobs, but they know the TERM and IDEA of being "trained" gets subs hot and distracted and that's all they really need.

LOL! Thank you! I could use a good laugh tonight!

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RE: "Training" - 2/24/2008 10:26:03 PM   
EvilKitty


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quote:

ORIGINAL: CharmedAnne

Hi,

I can only give you what I as a sub would mean with that on my profile, I in no way think this is true for everyone!
  • I want to be trained- When I write in my profile I want to be trained then for me it means I am open to trying new things, and experiences new groups of BDSM. Old Guard, Gor, Daddy play, things like that. Or it could be someone brand new to the scene.
  • The longer the session the better- Hmm...Not sure about this becuase I would never put this. To me this is saying, If you are going to scene with me better make sure you plan enough thinkgs to keep me entertained for a few hours, instead of letting the scene take its natural course.
  • Discrete- Hey, I put this becuase I do want discrete. I have no desire for my family, neighbors, childhood friends to know what I am. I am a privet person, I don't ask my grandmother about her sex life, she dosent need to know about mine! But there are some people who like public play, you know the lead me on a leash and call me the "Cunt whore cock loving slave" in public. I find though that most prefer discreet.
  • Dosent want to be apart of the local scene- I was apart of the scene and heard that phrase so many times and it seemed odd to me. I liked it, was nice to socialize, and people usually took lenghts to keep it all privet. But being out of it I realize just how much drama there is in it! Plus I have heard of coworkers being apart of the same scene group and awkwardness afterwards in realizing it. Some people just dont want that!
  • Pro Domme to me is someone who will Dominate me for money or tributes. That may be totally off base, but that is what it is to me. I would prefer someone who wants to scene with me because they will enjoy my submission, they will get such an energy from my submitting that they naturally turn to domination of me. Not I pay you 300 dollars now tie me up please?


I hope this made since!
Anne

Thank you, Anne, it does make sense. I was never comfortable with leading people around on leashes at the grocery store because it constitutes a serious breach of consensuality on the part of the poor customer who finds the whole thing icky! However, my home doesn't have a dungeon, but the local fetish party does! So does a local bar one night a month. Heck, my in-laws live in town, so I certainly would dislike having my photo on the front page of the paper, but I do enjoy socializing with others of my ilk. The private fetish party I'm fortunate enough to attend seems to have a minimum of drama & enough space & people to avoid it if it is occurring. I have (rarely) run across outside acquaintances & smiled & said hello but don't dwell on it. We don't talk vanilla stuff at events & we don't talk private stuff in vanilla venues.
I'd have no problem with a sub who required a hood to go out in & have offered, only to be turned down.
I HAVE done professional domination; though I don't make a living of it. Maybe once or twice a year, a pro-domme friend will have a client request 2 dommes at the same time. It's fun, I have feelings for the submissive while the session is underway, they're happy & they give me some money. I don't have problems with males who, for whatever reason, cannot or do not wish to weed my garden or wax my car. Perhaps their lives are too busy. Perhaps they fear emotional attachments. None of that hurts me or causes me not to wish to play with them. I do not "turn pro" mostly because it's far more work than I wish to do!LOL I like my job just the way it is!

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RE: "Training" - 2/25/2008 3:43:46 AM   
TotalState


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quote:

ORIGINAL: CharmedAnne

quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

The specifics contexts to which you speak, those people basically want a no strings attached affair, usually because they are married, and are either unable to pay or cannot bear the "disgrace" of paying and try to still get what they want, on their terms.

Wow I really disagree with this...Most of thoes things being discrete, no local scene, and no pro doms is what I look for and I am not married, attatched, or have problems paying for it, besides the fact that I dont want to pay for it. I would just rather sit on CM till I found someone who could offer what I wanted. I usually really like what you say, but man seemed like you were throwing away people looking to lead a lifestyle thats more quiet.

quote:


When they say "trained" they mean "anything you are willing to do to me that also gets me hot."


Once again I think your completely wrong on this. I once had on my profile that I was interested in being trained in the gorean lifestyle. I am not a gorean, even after the training, but I was curious as to the lifestyle and wanted to give myself the full experience of it before I ruled it out as something I dont wish to be. Training is simply admitting you dont know anything about certain topics but you are willing to let someone else teach you.

Anne

Even if what LA said doesn't apply to you, it *very much* applies to a lot of (usually male) do-me submissives on this site.  I'm not a cynic, but I'm afraid I've laughed at too many messages sent to my submissive fiancée to be able to deny it.


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RE: "Training" - 2/25/2008 7:00:22 AM   
Maynard


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Shawn1066

This is mostly how I view things as well.  When I talk about training in regards to my relationship, I talk about being trained to where I'm most pleasing to my Owner.  This can range from sexual use to domestics.  She's trained me quite a bit in both areas......


...DV's Fox



I agree.  When I think of a sub being trained, I think of a sub being taught how a Dom wants things done.  I also agree with TS and LA on the do me-subs observed definition of 'training'.

You could agree to train a sub how to properly rub your feet.   I hear that the feet are the most common fetish.

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RE: "Training" - 2/25/2008 7:29:27 AM   
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Although i did not request to be trained, and we do not lable it as such, my Master is most definitely training me...to be pleasing to Him, period. Most times, all it takes is a simple request from Him, and i obey, because i WANT to please Him; other times, when i balk at an order, He will resort to punishment of one kind or another until i submit. In the end...Master ALWAYS gets His way, and the longer we are together, the more well-trained i am. But i bet i would not be quite so pleasing to a different dominant...i am "trained" to my Master's tastes.

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RE: "Training" - 2/25/2008 9:06:30 AM   
EvilKitty


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Maynard

quote:

ORIGINAL: Shawn1066

This is mostly how I view things as well.  When I talk about training in regards to my relationship, I talk about being trained to where I'm most pleasing to my Owner.  This can range from sexual use to domestics.  She's trained me quite a bit in both areas......


...DV's Fox



I agree.  When I think of a sub being trained, I think of a sub being taught how a Dom wants things done.  I also agree with TS and LA on the do me-subs observed definition of 'training'.

You could agree to train a sub how to properly rub your feet.   I hear that the feet are the most common fetish.

Whew! To this Domme, a really good footrub is priced above rubies! Another thing I wish to ask is about sub or slave profiles that do not include much information. Not much more than "sincere submissive who really wants to serve" & Looking for: Dominant Women. Should I contact even though I know NOTHING about them? Am I missing good prospective relationships because I pass over people who don't fill out the whole form? Are they just terribly shy & I'm being snobbish?

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RE: "Training" - 2/25/2008 9:52:33 AM   
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 From LA:

quote:

The specifics contexts to which you speak, those people basically want a no strings attached affair, usually because they are married, and are either unable to pay or cannot bear the "disgrace" of paying and try to still get what they want, on their terms.

When they say "trained" they mean "anything you are willing to do to me that also gets me hot."


...for free is the kicker.

edited because I took too much out of context to make sense--

< Message edited by LadyHathor -- 2/25/2008 9:54:07 AM >


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RE: "Training" - 2/25/2008 11:00:11 AM   
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I don't go to pros because I feel that my submission is payment in full for another's domination.
If they don't agree, they are welcome to find those willing to pay.
Training could mean a wide variety of things; anything from the 'do-me' sub, who just wants a kinky playtime, to formal bdsm, ponyplay, or anything that captures the trainer's fancy.
I believe that while pros are essentially 'lifestylers', that many here do make a distinction between lifestylers and pros. I do see where the confusion arises. While there is definitely a need and a place for the pros the ones who I admire the most are those that do it 'for the love of it'. (that's just me, and absolutely NO reflection on those who are pros. I can definitely see the allure...)
Some people probably are shy.
I generally do not contact a Domme unless HoneyMaster has told me to.
If you find yourself interested in speaking with someone, there is nothing wrong with anyone (dom(me) or sub) contacting the person you are possibly interested in and striking up a conversation. You may make a new friend or even more!

~Christina

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RE: "Training" - 2/25/2008 1:09:50 PM   
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: : wanting to be trained sounds, fairly retarded to me.  it's like you could use a cracker jack box secret message decoder ring to translate "self servicing, like the kinks, oh baby make me feel used".  i wonder what anyone could possibly train me in, i'd feel like in saying "i like to be trained" was saying i'm inadequate, unwilling, or not up to the task in the first place to go and advertise that.  by saying "want to be trained", the trainees pleasure from either the punishment from not figuring out how to "roll over" or enjoyment of being told to do things, couldn't sound much more obvious. 

i am all to happy to offer allow myself to be molded into something found more suitable regardless of training.  if i wanted to inform anyone about me being trained i would say "i am willing and receptive of training".  someone can copy and paste that if you want, 1 line won't convince anyone you're not self serving or sincere, and the worst thing you can possibly do is be insincere in describing yourself. 

: : the longer the better... sounds wanting again when it's used alone, but it needs to be in context to get the message.  it could also be looked at like "it takes me more time to get anything done right", it would be better perhaps to say "length of sessions is a non issue".  but more likely and quite simply, the longer i have to be able to do something, the more likely the results will be satisfactory; obvious without saying, but it simply again comes down to if it's self service or not. 

i would not put that phrase in my profile, because it's fairly obvious to the degree of  being a 'no shit' statement.  take the chance to lose the interest of your reader by giving them filler text like this at your own risk.

: : discretion is respectable, while perhaps not commendable.  i myself see no reason to attend silly gatherings of people i don't know and probably won't care to meet.  if i did, i'd run off to every art show and computer seminar.  it's a great way to meet people with similar interests, but don't expect i will care to meet them.  how many people would you not care to meet on here?  i don't need cultured, or my horizons broadened.  i think it is commendable when people are able to worry less on what other people think, even people within the lifestyle or community.  i might be willing to go, i simply would not do so of my own accord, and expect nothing worth my own while to come of it.  but despite not going of my own accord, if i was asked to accompany someone, i may find myself willing depending who asks.  if the person asking had a "collar" on me, the answer would unquestionably be yes. 

i wouldn't go about informing the world of my sexual life any sooner than i would disclose people of my other private relations... but not being so ashamed as to remain faceless is another matter.  still, i can't see how desiring discretion could make them anything more than possibly "not up your alley".  there's a difference between not wanted to be seen in a newspaper wearing a leather collar and a chain leash, and not wanting to be seen with someone at a coffee shop.  a person who would not introduce you to people they know or go somewhere familiar is only flagging themselves as untrustworthy or finding you to be untrustworthy, shyness has little to do with it at this point.  but while i respect discretion, and commend people for not being ashamed of themselves or partners... aside from someone very close asking me to go, you would have to absolutely drag me to attend one of those... things. 

: : it's hard to answer this part without stepping on some toes, but i don't really care if i step on a few, but i hate to rattle cages.  basically... who would want to meet a pro-domme?  the self servers don't want to pay money.  and the people looking for something meaningful and have any semblence of intelligence won't expect they will find it in a person only interested in cash.  and the one's who demand tributes rather than sell themselves are even worse, it's better to be a "profession" than a game if you ask me.  who goes looking for a relationship in a bordello or from an escort service?  fools.  people who idolize the body and the pleasures, but little of the person or anything else.  these "pro's" only make any surmountable amount of money because there are people desperate enough to pay, and the buyers are only interested in their own desires and ends.  i would tell you to look for people who dislike "pro's" long before i would tell you to look for people who want them.  not looking for a pro tells you nothing conclusive, looking for a pro tells you pretty much everything.

on a flip side, anyone who would go looking for a pro hoping to lead to something more is certainly filled with more determination than common sense, and thinking more inwards than outwards.  but to anyone who's "relationship" did evolve from pro, congrats and all that.    i'm sure plenty of, if not most of them are lifestylers.  if i fancied labels i'd call myself a lifestyler too, but i don't seek to sell myself as a "pro sub" because of it, preferably i would like to value my experiences, rather than offer experiences for material value.

consider toes stepped on i suppose, but if someone's "happy to be pro" they wouldn't care of my opinion anyway, i'm just another lost "potential customer" afterall.  anyone should feel free to "open my eyes" if they think i'm squinting though.  i try not to seem insulting even if my words seems slanderous, but i couldn't explain my reasoning without it though.

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RE: "Training" - 2/25/2008 4:12:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: CharmedAnne
Wow I really disagree with this...Most of thoes things being discrete, no local scene, and no pro doms is what I look for and I am not married, attatched, or have problems paying for it, besides the fact that I dont want to pay for it. I would just rather sit on CM till I found someone who could offer what I wanted. I usually really like what you say, but man seemed like you were throwing away people looking to lead a lifestyle thats more quiet.

Hi Anne, sorry if my post came off as if it was universal.  I felt the words "specific context" and "usually" qualified my statement enough to show that I did not mean EVERY SINGLE PERSON.

quote:


Once again I think your completely wrong on this. I once had on my profile that I was interested in being trained in the gorean lifestyle. I am not a gorean, even after the training, but I was curious as to the lifestyle and wanted to give myself the full experience of it before I ruled it out as something I dont wish to be. Training is simply admitting you dont know anything about certain topics but you are willing to let someone else teach you.

Anne

"in the gorean lifestyle" qualifies

Simply saying "I want to be trained" has no qualification.

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RE: "Training" - 2/25/2008 4:24:05 PM   
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Gosh, Hopeless, I actually think you have a lot to say and made some valid points.
Unfortunately, I could not understand all of the points you were attempting to make. It rambled a bit and lost me here and there.
Perhaps, some training would help?...
(I still do think you had some good thoughts, though)

~Christina

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RE: "Training" - 2/25/2008 4:45:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx

Gosh, Hopeless, I actually think you have a lot to say and made some valid points.
Unfortunately, I could not understand all of the points you were attempting to make. It rambled a bit and lost me here and there.
Perhaps, some training would help?...
(I still do think you had some good thoughts, though)

~Christina


thanks

the pertinent issue concerning wordy and detailed dissertations is the likelihood that my collective audience will dwindle in direct proportion to my effusive verbosity... 

look mom, i'm trying to be clever~

but basically yeah, i'm pretty hardcore at ranting, and maybe good at holding interest while i try to explain things, but i'm absolutely horrible at "saying it in less words" and that tends to diminish what i've written, sorry.

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RE: "Training" - 2/25/2008 6:03:59 PM   
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That was so right on target I am nearly speechless.
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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

The specifics contexts to which you speak, those people basically want a no strings attached affair, usually because they are married, and are either unable to pay or cannot bear the "disgrace" of paying and try to still get what they want, on their terms.

When they say "trained" they mean "anything you are willing to do to me that also gets me hot."

Now, again, this is in THIS specific context to which you mean.  It's also an answer to what dorky doms who go around saying "I'm going to train you to be a good sub" is- they have no real idea other than lots of blow jobs, but they know the TERM and IDEA of being "trained" gets subs hot and distracted and that's all they really need.


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RE: "Training" - 2/25/2008 10:10:03 PM   
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Not much to say about most things mentioned here except my opinion of a so-called Pro-domme;
i'm looking for a profound eye-to-eye connection with Her. i want Her to love me and want whats best for me and us as a couple. Experience has shown that people are either in it for money,or deeply rewarding experiences and someone to walk through life with.While paying for it can excite and arouse me,it ends when the money does. i need so much more than that,and need to offer so much more than that..Let the horny husbands who cant get what they need from their wives pay for it,i simply want to live it...As for public parties etc,i'm Hers! Proud to be seen with Her however,whenever,and wherever She wishes it!She's my Godess.(try getting devotionlike this from a payee)
Make sense?THX

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RE: "Training" - 2/29/2008 8:51:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: nineofone

Not much to say about most things mentioned here except my opinion of a so-called Pro-domme;
i'm looking for a profound eye-to-eye connection with Her. i want Her to love me and want whats best for me and us as a couple. Experience has shown that people are either in it for money,or deeply rewarding experiences and someone to walk through life with.While paying for it can excite and arouse me,it ends when the money does. i need so much more than that,and need to offer so much more than that..Let the horny husbands who cant get what they need from their wives pay for it,i simply want to live it...As for public parties etc,i'm Hers! Proud to be seen with Her however,whenever,and wherever She wishes it!She's my Godess.(try getting devotionlike this from a payee)
Make sense?THX

Merci beaucoup! All these answers help me & I am grateful. As for the prodomme thing....1-My toes are not easily stepped on (hopelesslyinvo), not offended by much, don't stress much 2-When I said I "had feelings for" the person who was paying for domination, I meant it. I want to look them in the eye & make them feel submissive to me. I want to fulfill their needs, the same way I wish to fulfill the needs of my #1boy (collared to me for 11years now). While they're coming down from their high, I want to sit & stroke their hair, gently undo their bonds, bring them a drink of water. I do all these things because I want to. If the person I'm playing with is mine, I want to. If the person I'm playing with is giving me money, I still want to. I look at it like getting a gift certificate for my birthday. I doubt I'll ever change into the type of prodomme who says "you must bow down & worship & only generous males will be considered, you lowly ground-grubbers!".
As for fetish parties, I like a good party! I don't have all sorts of nifty bondage furniture to tie people to, but my friends have! I don't have a hot tub, but my friends do! I'm a girly sort of person sometimes; I like to get dressed up & put on makeup & go hang out with my friends. I may not "scene" at every party, but I'll laugh & see other nifty outfits & relax in the hot tub. I like that, at fetish parties, the alcohol drinking is low to moderate; I'm past enjoying talking to people whose eyes are crossing & whose words are slurring & whose brains have gone all gooey. I want to talk about books & art & how to tie a pretty shibari dress. I'd also like to do the dance of dominance & submission in a place that doesn't condemn me. I love that MY limits get stretched by the people I meet & the play I do.
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