LadyEllen
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Joined: 6/30/2006 From: Stourport-England Status: offline
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The problem with the EU, is that it was sold to us in the early 70s as a free trade area, the benefits of which are clear - but it has become something more, and the people of the UK and many other countries too, are uneasy about what it has become and is becoming - at least from what we in the UK understand it to be from the anti-EU Murdoch press, whose influence is so great here that "popular opinion" is whatever it is saying. The situation isnt improved by politicians who trot out such arguments in debate as "the EU makes it possible for us to retire to Spain". What that sort of comment means, is that we have signed away much of our sovereignty, so that we have access to seafront properties on the costas? But what it also means is that there are no clear benefits to ordinary people - for if there were, surely these would be paraded before us and the debate would be ended? The Murdoch influence is also what keeps us in Europe but outside it too - our government must maintain a distance or face bad press, and our politicians in general must avoid talking about Europe for the same reasons. Meanwhile we have UKIP taking places in the EU "government" because people vote in on protest, a party whose aim is to remove us from the EU. We need the EU - in combination with the rest of Europe we are much stronger in the world; but if we are to be forever where we are now rather than at the heart of things as we need to be, then the UK will always be on the receiving end of the legislation without being able to derive benefit from the EU. E
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