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Words - 9/27/2005 4:00:39 PM

miikaawaadizi

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reading the safewords discussion reminded me of something that has developed over the years within my Master's Household ... as slaves, we're required to be open and honest, even when expressing the negatives, but part of the problem is how to communicate that expression pleasingly ... in my Master's Household, there's kind of a verbal "shorthand" developed, and I was wondering what other ways girls have learned to express things.

as an example, there's three ways to respond to an instruction in my Master's Household ...

"as you wish, Master" - if I think it's a bad idea, have a suggestion or comment in mind, or don't like it, this one is used. it acknowledges my Master's will, but it lets my Master know that I have something I would like to offer in response to the order/instruction/comment, and allows him to ask for more information if he wishes it, without wasting time with "but ..." or arguing anything. if he chooses not to ask for me to comment further, whatever it is gets done anyways.

"yes, Master" - the neutral response, and most commonly used one.

"if it pleases you, Master" - this one gets used rarely, usually for "good" things, such as treats, or being told to do something I like a lot. it acknowledges that whatever it is I've been told to do, I recognize as being something he is permitting that pleases him, but inherent to the response is a begging, the check for confirmation that I can do whatever it is I was told to do.

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RE: Words - 9/27/2005 4:14:12 PM

Angrylibrarian

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I am hoping to get some good answers in this thread myself.
I like the as you wish rule. I prefer a beggance, "May a girl speak?" Since technically a girl can always speak at my house this is a signal I need to get into a specific place to listen to the girl or make a time to hear it later or not at all.

In my house, I had a problem where I couldn't get the girls to say what was wrong until it was too late, (literally, like freaking 2 30 am too late.) And with me, a girl never gets a chance to NOT tell me something. Ive got a ridiculous sense of empathy and its incredibly hard to hide feelings from me so I'm the one who knows somethings wrong before the girl. Add that to my being Italian and youre looking at a lot of empassioned lectures.

this is only slightly related to what your asking but I finally had to shut myself down and stop goading girls into discussions and institute 'confessions'. But that doesnt function exactly right either.

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RE: Words - 9/27/2005 4:18:33 PM

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again, another wonderful topic! *hugs miika*

It is basically the same in my master's household. All orders are to be acknowledged with a "yes, master" I am still not very good at this. I often find myself half way up from nadu before i am like "oh ..yes, master!"

as far as letting him know what i like and dont like...hmm... well, i think that my face says it all... i cry really easily, and show all emotion pretty much right on my sleeve.

One of the hardest lessons i learned is one recently... i did something that caused my master a loss, both a finantial, and time loss. I also damaged something that was very precious to him... it hurt so bad. i wanted to beg forgivness until i was blue in the face. i actually just wanted to die. what i had to do was sob out "yes master" when i was told to remove myself from his presence.

that was the hardest night of my life, and i came to a new understanding of what it is to be a slave...

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RE: Words - 9/27/2005 4:27:19 PM

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ORIGINAL: Angrylibrarian
I like the as you wish rule. I prefer a beggance, "May a girl speak?" Since technically a girl can always speak at my house this is a signal I need to get into a specific place to listen to the girl or make a time to hear it later or not at all.

I mentioned in the slave rules thread that my Master doesn't require formality unless it's appropriate ... dropping into third and begging permission to speak is one of the ways to get his attention as well, when that level of formality comes out (and it does instintively, sometimes I don't even realize I used it).

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ORIGINAL: Angrylibrarian
this is only slightly related to what your asking but I finally had to shut myself down and stop goading girls into discussions and institute 'confessions'. But that doesnt function exactly right either.

even with the "shorthand" in my Master's Household, I still have problems sometimes with expressing "difficult" subjects ... usually ones where I feel like I'm being silly, or the like. in those cases though, body language ends up taking over, similar to how you explain how you know your girls are hiding something from you.

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ORIGINAL: edana
i cry really easily, and show all emotion pretty much right on my sleeve.

I think our training to let our emotions out freely is why our body language is such a dead give away, I think we're incapable of concealing things in this respect.

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that was the hardest night of my life, and i came to a new understanding of what it is to be a slave...

*hugs you tight even if only virtually - for the moment*

~miika
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RE: Words - 9/27/2005 7:40:50 PM

kisshou

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Everything I am thinking shows on my face and with my body language. The Owner says I am the worst poker player in the world. So in this respect we use alot of non verbal communication.

If something is really bothering me I write about it in my journal.

When told to do something that is a treat my usual response is a squealed ohhhhhhhh thank you Master and then me placing a zillion kisses on the backs of his hands, knees, calves and tops of his feet.

I wish so bad I could be a perfect slave and I work so hard trying to be but I have a real problem in that I roll my eyes if I don't agree with something.

to edana, the nice thing about all the girls on this forum versus the (unmentionable topic) ones , is that we here admit to having been displeasing at one time or another for various reasons. There is no greater remorse than to be found displeasing to the One who you so revere and live to please. More than the discomfort of tossing and turning all night on the cold, damp shower stall floor is that horrible feeling in the pit of your stomach knowing that you let him down. You are such a beautiful girl who has the gift of empathy, that some of your posts have bought tears to my eyes. My warmest well wishes for you.

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RE: Words - 9/27/2005 7:46:15 PM

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Well sadly the first thing that pops into mind is "Potty Emergency". I have a bladder condition which can be quite painful if I try to "hold it" too long, and can be quite dangerous if I do not take care of myself properly. So I do not have to gain permission to leave a room, usually at top speed, for that purpose.

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RE: Words - 9/27/2005 7:46:24 PM

LordODiscipline

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My girl uses them in the opposite order actually -

"If it pleases you master" - is used for something she is not at all in favour of.

"As you desire" is something that she is rather nuetral about

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Yes, I will <do, get, etc> right away, sir" is something she is pleased with...

Oddly enough, she can use any of these with equaminiity in intent; reversing them to indicate a cynicism should that be the desired delivery....

And, always just outside of getting me piqued.

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