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And answer for nena. And do others fell like this. - 9/28/2005 8:11:38 PM

nephandi

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Ok i was asked by nena why i do resherch into the Gorean lifestyle, when i dont intend to become one of you, and i did not realy know how to answer, but then it hit me, i have always been treated like a man, i am big and strong, i have mostly male frinds, i like male things like computergames, roleplying games and computers, once i was even invited out to fight by a boy. i guess it is becouse i am bif and strong, dont care aboute my looks so my clothing is not wery feminine and generaly i dont act like a girl.

Then i begun to read aboute Gor, both here on collarme, on the nett and in the books, and sudderly i felt the need to be a girl, i mean my tonails are trimmed and tended now, my hair is growing out, i...i the tomboy is actualy looking at clothing, and i ahve taken up jewlery making and a few girlie hobbies. So nena here is an answer for you, i am interested in Gor becouse it make me feel like a girl.

That and i like the idea of taking somthing from fiction and making somthing in it in the real wourld that is a werry magickal prosess, taking somthing from the astral realm and giving it form.

Now do others fell like i do, that there is some bits of wisdom, somthing that oddly grabs you inside of the poorly written pages of the Gor books?

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RE: And answer for nena. And do others fell like this. - 9/28/2005 8:22:45 PM

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im not gorean either but i like certain aspects of it....the rituals, the unquestioned obedience (in theory). i am a dancer and can liken the club i work in to that of a paga tavern (with a few more restrictions, of course, and thankfully so). aside from the poor and repetitive writing, i've enjoyed reading the books.

i don't know about it making me want to be more "feminine" though....i go through spurts of that as it is.

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RE: And answer for nena. And do others fell like this. - 9/28/2005 8:23:25 PM

Delvin

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Fantasy, Reality and Illusion.

I would like to state that I am not familiar with the Gor books, never taken the time to read them, my slave on the other hand has read them. Here is what We see,

The books offered many people one concept of how a Master and slave live, the rituals, rites and privledges of each. I for one believe in the ways of the Roman/Greek/Babalonian slaves which to a small degree fall into the catagory of Gorean slaves, and personally we find this very beautiful. One should always remember though that fantasy, be it the Gor books, the story of O, Anne Rice books the Beauty series all offer insight from "one" persons views on this life.

Ultimately each person needs to find something that they can identify with and have something that gives them comfort that they are not "freaky, strange or odd". Something all of us at one time or another have stopped and asked ourselves. Reading these books gives us a little hope that yes, there are others out there in this very large world who think like we do. Thank God. Finally at some point we find someone, who, for one reason or another, gives us the happiness and desire to live we are searching for.

ykiok :)

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RE: And answer for nena. And do others fell like this. - 9/28/2005 8:49:01 PM

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Tal I have always wondered if John Norman who teaches philosphy at a University put his concepts of what the world should be in the Gor books. That goes for other writes like Anne Rice.

Although John Norman never wanted his books to become the bases of a lifestyle his books like many that inspire have become that. It is not just the Master slave relationship that drew me to Gor, but the structure, the cermony, and having Honor and Respect, something I find missing in todays world.

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RE: And answer for nena. And do others fell like this. - 9/29/2005 4:07:13 AM

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but the structure, the cermony, and having Honor and Respect, something I find missing in todays world.

Nosathro

If you add to that Chilalry, you are using the same argument I have used for years regarding groups like the SCA etc...

Final analysis, I really do not care if the whole world laughs, I found something in Gor which struck not one chord but many chords and that was precious to me. I have no need to justify it nor should I. many find something special in Gor or other areas and that is good too and they never should be expected to justify it either. Honour ... true Honour includes resoecting the beliefs and views of others even if they are opposed to you. Dress it up with all the philosophy you like and it still boiles down to simple things.

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RE: And answer for nena. And do others fell like this. - 9/29/2005 11:13:54 AM

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I started researching Gor back in May b/c I was raised to have the man be in charge and society kind of changed the rules on me.Granted I am very strong,independent, and self-sufficient and spent time topping a man in a r/l ltr but I find something totally missing.I am submissive by nature and not fulfilled w/in the roles of my life....Gor just seems so natural.

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RE: And answer for nena. And do others fell like this. - 9/29/2005 11:23:00 AM

nenakajira

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Okay nephandi, I get the theory of "Gor making a woman feel feminine and beautiful". It is one of the side effects :)

What I do not understand is how it makes you personally feel that way when you are not involved in the Gorean life. How does just reading about others who live another way make you feel that way?

I mean, I read about various cultures all the time and none of them have made me, personally, feel differently about myself unless I was adopting their practices as well.. and you, I do not believe, are adopting our practices.

-nena{R}

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RE: And answer for nena. And do others fell like this. - 9/29/2005 11:33:01 AM

Auralise

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As always, very well put Sir. i couldn't agree more.

i call these chord strikes 'soul-pulls.' They pull my soul and i follow! It is all about being true to self - not unlike slavery. It is all about the journey of life; if you follow what feels right, you normally land in a satisfying place.

Good to read you again.

Blessings,

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RE: And answer for nena. And do others fell like this. - 9/29/2005 1:09:13 PM

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I have to say that when I discovered thes books and this lifestyle long ago it was the idea of honesty and honor that brought me to where I am today. I enjoy the rituals and I like my slave both feel as though in a former life we existed where this was a reality,,,,,I find beauty in a slave woman no matter what she appears to be on the outside,,they are full of grace and well taught. Most Gorean slaves are more complient about their desire to serve and mush more girl ike as you so well said. I would like to think that the ones that I have trained were like diamonds in the rough when they came to me and I mold them and polished out the rough edges and made them such wonderful well trained women,,

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