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I apologize for not mentioning the Gor books in my OP . . . The Chronicles of Gor* is a multimillion selling series with a worldwide cult following and its own subculture both in and out of the BDSM community. Yes, I have the series in my collection. No, I did not mention them because they are not about BDSM. If you want kink, get Imaginative Sex (same author). It is more about kink than The Chronicles of Gor is. Saying Gor books are about BDSM is like saying The Mariner's Manual is about BDSM because it tells how to tie a knot in rope. Gorean philosophies or procedures and knot tying just happen to work conveniently in many BDSM relationships but so do many Christian beliefs. I didn’t list the Bible as a BDSM book or as a kink guide to poly relationships either. The adventures of Tarl Cabbot and others on Gor are about the philosophical construct of an idyllic society on Counter-Earth. It is a place where the priests have the power to regulate and limit technology so as not to water down the aggressive or competitive natural order. It is about a rustic society in which the strong survive, the dominant rule and the submissive serve because certain technologies, like guns and other war machines, cannot aid the weak. It is about preserving the very nature of man and what makes us human survivors. Many slaves on Gor are kidnapped women from Earth who were taken there in spaceships (spaceships good, get slaves. Guns bad, let the weak kill the strong). Then they go through training, earning their slave ranks as they go. The Masters, slave training, war, careers and most everything else in Gor has a complex and detailed history, backed by tradition, with purpose, policy, procedure and philosophical perspective . . . often written up in excruciating detail. These details, with more than 20 types of slaves and even more slave positions, is what spawned the BDSM interest in these books. John Norman (John Lange Ph.D.) is loved and hated. He was fired from Ballantine after 7 successful books. He was picked up by DAW and wrote 18 more successful books. Donald A. Wolheim became ill and relinquished control of DAW. Despite the fact John’s 25th book sold 3 million copies, he was fired. (Urban legend has it that he was fired at the insistence of a publisher’s wife and fired again at the discretion of a daughter.) After 25 books rumored to have sold over 20 million copies, he was blacklisted by the publishing industry. Soon after, a Gor movie was released, then another movie deal failed, a TV series went into the works but never aired, a comic strip and magazine deal was cut but never hit print and finally after 14 years, the 26th book came out. Currently, fans anxiously await the 28th book that is due for release soon. *The Chronicles of Counter-Earth, The Saga of Tarl Cabbot, The Counter-Earth Saga and The Tarl Cabbot Saga ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Thank you for bringing Gor to our attention with your reply. I am a fan of the life and struggles John Norman has gone through. Anyone that can cause that much trouble with books about an idyllic society designed to preserve the nature of man while practicing slavery certainly deserves mention in this thread. Series No. / Title Log / 1st Print / ISBN 1. Tarnsman of Gor (1967) ISBN 0-345-27583-7 2. Outlaw of Gor (1967) ISBN 0-345-27136-X 3. Priest-Kings of Gor (1968) ISBN 0-7592-0036-X 4. Nomads of Gor (1969) ISBN 0-75925-445-1 5. Assassin of Gor (1970) ISBN 0-75920-091-2 6. Raiders of Gor (1971) ISBN 0-75920-153-6 7. Captive of Gor (1972) ISBN 0-75920-105-6 8. Hunters of Gor (1974) ISBN 0-75920-130-7 9. Marauders of Gor (1975) ISBN 0-75920-141-2 10. Tribesmen of Gor (1976) ISBN 0-75925-446-X 11. Slave Girl of Gor (1977) ISBN 0-75920-454-3 12. Beasts of Gor (1978) ISBN 0-75921-125-6 13. Explorers of Gor (1979) ISBN 0-75921-167-1 14. Fighting Slave of Gor (1980) ISBN 0-75921-173-6 15. Rogue of Gor (1981) ISBN 0-75921-179-5 16. Guardsman of Gor (1981) ISBN 0-75921-368-2 17. Savages of Gor (1982) ISBN 0-75921-374-7 18. Blood Brothers of Gor (1982) ISBN 0-75921-380-1 19. Kajira of Gor (1983) ISBN 0-75921-926-5 20. Players of Gor (1984) ISBN 0-75921-932-X 21. Mercenaries of Gor (1985) ISBN 0-75921-944-3 22. Dancer of Gor (1986) ISBN 0-75921-950-8 23. Renegades of Gor (1986) ISBN 0-75921-956-7 24. Vagabonds of Gor (1987) ISBN 0-75921-980-X 25. Magicians of Gor (1988) ISBN 0-75921-986-9 26. Witness of Gor (2001) ISBN 0-7592-4235-6 27. Prize of Gor (2008) ISBN 0-7592-4580-0 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ In print and out of print books are readily available in many countries from a variety of publishers. Some domestic (US), foreign and 1st print publishers* listed below. Book # / Publisher (1-7) Balalitine Books Inc. - US 1st Print (1-7) Balalitine Books Inc. - Canadian 1st Print (8-25) DAW Books Inc.- us 1st Print w/yellow spine (8-25) DAW Books Inc. - 1st Print w/white spine (11-25) Masquerade Books Inc. (8-25) Del Ray (1-7) Sidgwick & Jackson Ltd. (1-7) Universal-Tandem Publishing Co. Ltd. (1-7) Star Books (26) New World Publishers (27) A Wildside Press / E-Reads * I invite Gor fans to update this publisher list. For example, I never did find a translation for the name of the Russian publisher and Masquerade books came and went so fast, I never did find out if they were subdivision. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -=More Gor=- Offical Site (leather bound & autographed books here) http://www.worldofgor.com/ Gor Chronicles http://gorchronicles.com/modules/wfchannel/ Wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Norman http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gor Goreans online in Second Life - Google Link http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=second+life+gorean&aq=0&oq=second+life+Gor&aqi=g6 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -=The human being is a philosophizing animal=- The choice, you see, ultimately, is not between philosophy and something other than philosophy, but between good philosophy and bad philosophy, between inquiry, criticality and concern, and complacency, superficiality, ignorance and naivety. by John F. Lange More at: http://qcpages.qc.edu/Philo/tdd.htm quote:
ORIGINAL: NINacide I didn't see the Gor series by Norman in there. Personally, I avoid those books because I know they screwed up a couple of my friends, but many people are into them.
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I am Kalon Eric -=BDSM Book List=- No wonder people think BDSm is a weird thing...all the nice stuff have names as diseases. -JustDarkness
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