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"I am teaching you, as men of Earth are taught," she said. "to fear and supress your sexuality. The process is simple. Tantalize and punish. Tantalize and punish. Soon, by natural, physchological linkages, an association will be formed between sexuality and punishment, You will come to fear your sexual feelings, as being precursors to pain, physical or mental, This will induce anxiety in secular situation and impair sexual effectiveness. In children, of course, the punishments are commonly forgotten, at least on conscious levels, Inexplicable anxieties, however, often remain, These anxieties, and the rules that seem associated with them, pertaining to the suppression and inhibition of sexuality, most, of course, by thinking organisms, be rationalized. An entire structure of myths is then raised to protect the individual from the insight that he was, long ago, when defenseless, mutilated and cripples, You are familiar with the nature of such myths, such superstructures and defense mechanisms, They are many and varied, These range from the praising of an idiotic celibacy in the interests of a presumably nonexistent spirit to the genres of dirty jokes and stories, in which a vengeance is taken on the thwarted sexuality by trying to make it appear small and dirty. Between these two madnesses is a variety of more dangerous antisexisms, more pernicious because subtler, recrudescent Puritanisms masking themselves under the garbage of trigger rhetoric's, the usage of such expressions as "persons" and such designed to supress thought and enforce social conformity."

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ORIGINAL: Looken4Friendz

I have been told so many different things regarding Gorean lifestyle, and I am very confused about the lifestyle. I pretty much chose to stay away from it, as people fear things they do not understand.

Is not Gorean life about Dominant men only? From what little I have read on Gorean in the past on web sites, this lifestyle is based on a series of books. From what I gathered there are no such things as a Mistress in the Gorean lifestyle.

I was most interested in Gorean because of the fact that "slaves" have no choices, and there is no such thing as a limit from what I understood... But there is so many questions, and so few answers. I will take some time sometime to come back and read the posts in this board regarding this lifestyle.

Thank you..

- tony

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Norman really did draw on Arabic culture as a model quite a bit, did he not,Leonidas?

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As I understand it,the concept of veiling was to keep the eyes of competing males from them-it was,(and is) seen as a safeguard.

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‘Slave girls, Mistress?’ I asked.
‘Yes,’ she said. ‘They are stinking, meaningless, lascivious little sluts who have been slaves in the arms of Gorean men. It has spoiled them for freedom. They are worthless, sensuous little beasts whose passions Gorean men have seen fit, as cruel masters, to ignite. Their sexuality, their shamelessness, their need, their helplessness, makes them an insult to free women.’ "

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ORIGINAL: Leonidas

Oooops. I see now that you are a male submissive. Take into consideration what I said about Gorean free women. If you are like most male submissives, you aren't going to want to belong to one. She'll see you (really) as benieth her, and consider you to be a servant more than anything else. She'll be unlikely to be as kinky as you'd like, and certainly far less likely to cater to your kinks than a lifestyle Domme would be.

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not wired to bottom,or submit-(pisses me off,and gives me homicidal thoughts..