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ORIGINAL: xBullx I'm not arguing that some men do or don't get it, but so few do that we risk becoming the Mohicans to the girls Dodos. The question is-- should we attempt to instruct those who don't "get it" and show them the error of their ways? Or do we simply turn our backs and allow them to wallow and drown in their own weakness, as a fitting punishment for their failure to know better? Threads that inspire actual thinking are rarer than I prefer so when one appears and I have a moment, I'm grateful to the original poster and often to those who have taken their own valuable time to contribute in meaningful ways. That said... This question about taking action vs. not, I think, is the age-old struggle of wisdom against whim. 'Wisdom' sees beyond the self-interest of any particular individual to see the overall effect on the collective system (whether that 'collective' be a family, a neighborhood, a business, a nation, it's government, etc.). In contrast, 'whim' sees only it's only tiny bubble that oftentimes is defined by a singular question: what's in it for me? Nothing wrong with a little self-interest UNLESS that self-interest negatively impacts the infrastructure -- the framework, if you will -- and the majority of those who rely on said framework. As soon as that happens, the force and power of numbers alone will almost certainly dictate the outcome of a struggle, no matter how noble and 'correct' the minority's position my be. So to get back to the point of the question: 'Should we attempt to instruct the ignorant, or allow them to continue in ignorance?' It's not really a relevant question as posed. A more relevant question is: what, specifically, is the desired outcome from any attempt to instruct the ignorant? Do we want more men to realize their innate masculinity and then to live it throughout society? I would think this would be the goal, or a very close approximation of it. Once the goal is clearly stated, we have a 'target' that we can measure our efforts, and their effects, against. In that measurability comes our focus, and a measure of whether our energy is well-directed and effective, or otherwise. Okay, I'm drifting a little so to get back on track... Someone once said, and I believe, that "behind every action there's an intention, and behind every intention there's a belief; if you want to change someone's behavior, you've got to figure out WHY they act as they do, and what BELIEF undergirds their intent." So what is it, exactly, that demasculated (dare I say, effeminate?) men BELIEVE? Begin to deconstruct that mental and emotional stew, and we'll have the beginning of relevant facts from which to strategize what it will take to educate and evolve them back into their innate masculinity. Until then, all of our talking and walking will likely be seen as individual choices in lifestyle and expression, tolerated by others from a sense of "I'll leave you to your ways if you'll leave me to mine."
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