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RE: Identifying a gorean slave, slave or submissive - 10/18/2005 2:13:13 PM   
gentlesurrender


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ORIGINAL: plantlady64

Hello There,
In my opinion a full true slave, weather Gorean or not, has her Masters wants, desires and happiness at the center of her universe. She submits to, and works towards her Masters contentment with no desire but to be what he wants her to be. It's to be owned fully mind, body, and soul and to keep no part of her private or held back from him in any way.

For me the deeper I yield to my Masters will and ownership of me, the more content and free I am. I don’t know if my Master ever died if I’d be willing to trust someone else literally with my whole self and life like I can my Master. It took him being the most honest, mature and compassionate man I’ve ever met to allow me to trust him on this level. I’ve never met anyone whose views and desires mirrored my ideals of love, life and family.

Again this is only an un-educated opinion I present here, so if I am incorrect I'd welcome the comments people will have about my statements as I honeslty want to understand more deeply what Gor's differences from BDSM than I do now.


Sincerely,
sub suzanne




thank you plantlady, wonderful post that really speaks from the heart. Does encompass all the thoughts of the depth of submission, it is good to read that such desires are possible to be realised.



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RE: Identifying a gorean slave, slave or submissive - 10/18/2005 2:45:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: starshineowned

A few months back Master and I had a not so pleasant exchange. I honestly do not even recall what it was about, except that I felt absolutely horrible inside the rest of the night, and He did not want me around or near him. He did not even sleep in bed.

The next morning when I woke Him for work, His reply was gruff, short, and curt..it just was not that same affectionate tone that was use to. To Him he was just waking up and there was nothing about it. I took it as his still being not happy with me and not wanting me around so i dismissed myself back to the bedroom, and layed back down. I did not do what was suppose to do which was make his coffee, breakfast, get meds out, make his lunch for day, and lay his clothes out. Again under the feelings that he did not want me around and out of his way.

I assumed ..deadly mistake.

I learnt that day without a doubt what it meant to be a slave, to serve, and what obedience was. Bad days and my emotions are never an excuse to not serve. Ever.


starshine
Happy slave of Master Delvin



thank you starshine for sharing your experience

communication is so important. Understanding what is expected and required. It is only with a Master's guidance can you progress and work through times when things dont go right.

on the subject of communicating - we are our past in the terms that what we have felt, dealt with and seen, make us who we are. Although we move forwards it is difficult sometimes to not allow the past to affect the way we move into the future.

Searching for the right person to submit too is at times a place of vulnerability and caution is high, i wonder if others found at times they didnt always show the person that resides within their hearts.

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RE: Identifying a gorean slave, slave or submissive - 10/18/2005 2:54:00 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Thadius

Tal and Greeting,

I guess the biggest difference between Goreans and the others in the lifestyle, is the understanding of the natural order (hierarchy). As a Gorean I have disrobed from the general Political Correctness that our culture seems to try and force feed us and our children. Men and women are different. I also believe that this is where most of the "confusion" comes in, as people usually refer to Gor as harsh and brutal. It is anything but harsh and brutal. I find the ceremony, traditions, and poetry to be very uplifting and freeing of the stigmas that the vanilla world tries to make us conform to.

Be safe and Be well,
Thadius...Proud owner of thalia.



thank you Thadius for your thoughts

i have to admit when i first started talking to other friends about Gor it was met with negative comments of a harsh, brutal life.

i have found that many are very kind, friendly and courteous and its been heartening, at times i can only describe it as like coming home, a comfortable zone.



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RE: Identifying a gorean slave, slave or submissive - 10/18/2005 4:56:20 PM   
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quote:

Searching for the right person to submit too is at times a place of vulnerability and caution is high, i wonder if others found at times they didnt always show the person that resides within their hearts


Hmm..can't say as I ever felt I was vulnerable or overtly cautious in the "searching" phase itself. In the past before Master..when an attatchment was made before I understood fully what it was I missing I never felt compelled to or quite trusting enough to reveal the more sacred portions of me.

Finally though with Master I am complete, I am fully understanding and accepting of what I am, and grateful to Him for showing this to me, and allowing me the freedom to be. It is I think within that non-judgemental freedom I am given by Master..that allows me to finally open up those sacred parts because I know they will be nurtured, developed, and molded to His pleasure, and appreciated.

starshine
Happy slave of Master Delvin

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