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RE: Finanacial slavery - 10/20/2008 2:09:46 PM   
tazzygirl


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LOL

thanks for having a sense of humor... some of your posts hit way too close to home for me and some laughter was needed, in my not so humble opinion ~grins

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RE: Finanacial slavery - 10/21/2008 8:45:36 AM   
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camrynne,

I'd like your Master's permission, and your willingness, to allow me to cross-post your posting to another board.

Your story is precisely the type of thing that needs to be openly discussed by lifestyle Goreans, for obvious reasons. Some would want your account buried, to keep from frightening the naive women away from Gorean relationships-- but I am of the opposite opinion.

When devoted slaves get abused-- even financially-- by weak, irresponsible fuckheads who use the title of Gorean Master to play god with the lives of others, it makes my blood boil.

May I cross-post your story?

I wish you well,

_Marcus_



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RE: Finanacial slavery - 10/21/2008 8:52:24 AM   
MarcusofAr


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Ulp.

Holy bosk! That post was made 5 months ago!

Whose to say camrynne still reads here at all?

I have GOT to start paying more attention to such details as posting dates.

I wish you well,

_Marcus_



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RE: Finanacial slavery - 10/21/2008 9:54:40 PM   
TavernMaster


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xoxi,

My slave came to me with only the clothes on her back, in her suitcase, and backpack. Which is to say did not hold much honestly. From the time she showed up I took total control over her life. And to be completely honest I had no clue as to all the real world problems she had when she showed up, beyond having no job and income of her own. Dealing with epilopsy and lack of medications was the first surprise she threw on me when her meds just about ran out (no insurance).

There was a benefit though by taking total control over her in all aspects this did teach her quickly that I could handle whatever problems arise. Thus trust was established when she had no choice of an alternative option.

True slavery is about not having options. One must submit to their master because they have no choice. Once a slave is given a choice on how or when they will submit then they retain control over their own lives. To find true slavery that control must be given up to their owner.

When my slave eventually did go to work 3 months later she had no problems with giving up her paycheck to me. I had already established that I had her best interests in mind by that time. Furthermore I had bought her a car in order to get to and from work. The car was a piece of junk literally, cost me more in repairs eventually than what I originally paid for the thing in the first place. And yes I put the car in her name for personal reasons.

She has her own bank account and she cashes her own checks. But I have access to it in all ways. And I have total control over how her money is spent. She only spends what money I give her to spend. 99.9% of the time she has no cash on her. Yes she does have her ATM (check card) on her so she does have access to her money. But this is only for emergencies. She calls me and asks me what to do and how much to take out if she needs money for an emergency. Then if she has any funds left over when she returns to being in my presence she hands those funds over to me immediately.

Does she consider it her money? Yes and No. Yes in the since she earned it, but no because she considers herself a slave. Thus everything she owns is mine (I sold her last car without asking her...I just told her to sign the title and she obeyed). She wanted to replace it a month or two earlier, but I told her that she did not have the money to replace the car since the money was already allocated towards something else I felt was more important at the time. And yes she did have the money in her account.

From the legal perspective legally she might own it but in reality I retain full control over everything she has. If we ever separated she could remove me from her bank account (thus I would loose control...but then I already lost control by that time). She's the only one on the title to her car, thus she would have the car (BTW...its paid off already).

Yes I'm taking a risk on her staying with me, but trust must be two ways. As her master I must take into account her well being. I don't do everything she wants and desires. But her needs are taken care of. I also keep her in touch with my long term goals so that she remains on the same page as myself. I never ask her what her long term goals are, again she is a slave. Do I have to explain myself to her? No, as her master I don't. But it does make everything run smoother.

I have had slaves come and some go. When they leave they go on their own accord. Because they wanted to go, not because I threw them out. My parents taught me that when one takes ownership of an animal then one owns them for life. This means one does not get rid of them when they become a burden. If you are not willing to take on the burden then one should not take on a pet. In this case a slave, after all they are animals thus the same principle applies to slaves as other animals such as dogs and cats.

Any future slaves I acquire will be required to submit completely in all aspects: Financially, sexually (including reproductive), and in servitude. I do not accept any less than total commitment from a slave. But then I give them my total commitment also otherwise why own them.

Will they (slaves) stay or will they go in the future I cannot guarentee anything. Everything is a risk in life when it comes to commitment. Marriage is not a life-long commitment. I know I'm divorced and I married for life. And no I didn't file for divorce either, she did.

As a master I can only promise to take care of my slaves in accordance to my beliefs. And that commitment is based on my character and my promise to honor my commitment to them so long as they remain my slave. They in return give the same commitment in return to me so long as it is their desire to remain my slave.

Real life though say people change and have different needs at different stages in their life. If this causes them to move on then they move on. Where it leads them is up to them. Hopefully though if a proper relationship has been established they will still be considered part of a household and family even if they served only as a slave.

Tavern Master



Finding a master and/or slave is easy. Finding the right one for each is the hard part.

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RE: Finanacial slavery - 10/22/2008 8:26:00 AM   
starshineowned


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Greetings..:)

Questions and answers is just good policy before any life altering changes are made. This we know. We also know that regardless of exchanges made in any fashion or how much trust is built/felt..things still do not always turn out the way expected, planned or agreed upon. You'll never escape that.

Think it was once the realization was made that this path had to be traveled no matter the outcomes along the way was when that feel of being a slave took hold. Nothing beyond today and pleasing Master at this moment matters in any way that creates concern. It isn't mine anymore anyways to be concerned about so just doesn't venture there. Is that being a stupid person by not being concerned enough to plan for the future? In the normal world of things probably but that requires one to retain independence and control..neither of which are part of a slaves life.

Scarey? You bet your ass...but if it's in you..the search will not end nor the need.

starshine

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"And in the end, it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years." --Abraham Lincoln

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