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Does age really matter - 10/24/2005 12:32:34 PM   
starshineowned


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Greetings..~smiles~

I've seen this off and on through out posted topics that some feel age matters and some say it in itself doesn't matter but maturity does.

Perhaps i am a stick in the mud, or tunnel visioned, or bias or not really sure what one might call it..but mature or not, I could not see myself being able to interact with someone that is atleast within 10yrs or less of my own age in the junior sense or more than 15yrs in the senior sense. Mind you I am talking strictly from a slave point in interaction with a Domiant Male.

Just curious if others have setup some sort of parameters in regards to this.


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RE: Does age really matter - 10/24/2005 12:50:26 PM   
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Reposted from other thread:

As with everything, go with what works for you. We all have our preferences and we should simply accept them.

Generally I prefer older partners. However, I have relationships with people my age...it surprised me more than anyone!

I find it hilarious when an older male will IM me just saying "You're great, too bad I'm too old for you!"

Now, obviously it's an attempt at them to try and get me to prove myself and get me interested. But it's hilarious that they just discount themselves. I agree with them and go on my way.

Just be honest. I personally just see how a relationship grows organically, age notwithstanding.

We all have our quirks- religion, age, race, financial status, family situation, education...just do what works for you. And beware generalizations, they always seem to bite you on the ass

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RE: Does age really matter - 10/24/2005 2:26:09 PM   
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same age group, definately not ten years older,will consider 10 yrs younger .

i had a Dom in his 20's email me..........
feel like robbing the cradle?

i think i would end up running the show if he was that much younger.

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RE: Does age really matter - 10/24/2005 5:48:05 PM   
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I need someone I can relate to-I have dated younger women in the past.

They don't call it a "genration gap" for nothing.

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RE: Does age really matter - 10/24/2005 8:09:11 PM   
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Maximum age limit I would look at in a potential slave? Heart beat, breathing, able to do chores, able to get wet regularly. Able to sign or croak "Yes Master"

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RE: Does age really matter - 10/24/2005 9:33:50 PM   
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I am not interested in any one older than 39 or 40. That will change as my age changes though.

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RE: Does age really matter - 10/25/2005 2:47:36 AM   
MistressDREAD


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Ha
For Me age has never mattered however being raised in a Poly BDSM
Home befor such lifestyles became public and because I now Own
the slave whom assisted My parents in raising Me who now lives within
the confines of a wheelchair in his 70s and still maintains structure
within one of My homes over its slaves there as well as having recently
signed a one year contract with a concensual female slave of 22 for
a years training I would have to say yes yes age has never really mattered
to Me and for the record, looks, race, gender,religion,ability or disability,
color or family have never really mattered to Me either in servitude or
Dominance. The content of charactor and how a person carries Themselfs
has always been the attracting factor for Me or how they would best fit
into the nitch I am trying to fill.

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RE: Does age really matter - 10/25/2005 9:00:36 AM   
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Of course age matters. I'm not going to expect a 90 year old to run up and down the stairs bringing drinks and food. And I'd be rather surprised to find an 18 year old that can hold a pleasant conversation to entertain a business contact. Although I expect that exceptions to both of those 'rules' exist, they're quite rare.

But as to what the original poster was actually pointing towards, not being able to interract as a slave when faced with a free man too many years your junior? Makes no sense to me whatsoever. I've dealt with slaves both much older and much younger than myself, and it doesn't seem to be a problem at all for me. Perhaps you only think it's problem because you've never been in the situation? Embarass your owner with that attitude and you would provoke some effective attitude adjustment, I would think.

Or maybe it's just me.


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RE: Does age really matter - 10/25/2005 12:05:45 PM   
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A good question,I used to think that it didn't,if a slave/sub was truely seeking knowledge or to serve a very experienced MASTER.NOW I am 55 and find slaves/subs refering to me as an old man.."gulps "am I that old at 55.I find that many of the hot shot young doms leave much to be desires as a mentor.Many are into it for just the sex.I find the control is the biggest turn on for me and taking a new one and turning out a slave/sub that any MASTER/DOM would love to owned..Age is a number you hear many saying some of us still have a sharp mind and a heavey hand...Of course this is just the views of this OL MASTER...BOUNTY

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RE: Does age really matter - 10/25/2005 12:27:24 PM   
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I've dealt with slaves both much older and much younger than myself, and it doesn't seem to be a problem at all for me. Perhaps you only think it's problem because you've never been in the situation? Embarass your owner with that attitude and you would provoke some effective attitude adjustment, I would think.


Greetings Master Raphael..

The difference I am seeing slowly emerge is that when it comes to trying to form a relationship..from the slave's perspective they are seeking one that will control in all aspects, and I find it hard to feel that can be acheived by a Dominant persona with a much younger age than my own when they have barely had time to experience and truely learn control of themselves in the world, in this lifestyle, let alone another human being.

It is much different from a Dominant perspective from what am seeing as the Dominant is the Controller, guide, teacher to more specifically but not limited to teaching the slave about the Dominants wants/ways. The outside world parts aren't as important on this flip side?

And you are correct..I've not been subjected to this as have always known that might on a personal level be issue for me so have sought Owners that fell into my age bracket, and gone from there. This really wasn't just meant as a being around others in general interaction socially as far as being respectful as yes to do what you suggested would have this girls hide in flames once Master was done.

Hope this help clarify abit..my apologies

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RE: Does age really matter - 10/25/2005 12:32:46 PM   
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Yeah I always find it weird that people realize later in life that it takes a very mature person in order to have a good lasting healthy relationship with someone else- maturity which majority comes only in time and experience.

And yet we encourage the younger, just barely adults to be the ones to give birth and raise entire new persons on their own!

Never made sense to me.

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RE: Does age really matter - 10/25/2005 4:12:51 PM   
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Greetings slave starshine,

I appreciate your clarification. Sadly, I was not able to understand all of it.

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ORIGINAL: starshineowned
Greetings Master Raphael..

The difference I am seeing slowly emerge is that when it comes to trying to form a relationship..from the slave's perspective they are seeking one that will control in all aspects, and I find it hard to feel that can be acheived by a Dominant persona with a much younger age than my own when they have barely had time to experience and truely learn control of themselves in the world, in this lifestyle, let alone another human being.


You mean, I think, that when you were a free woman, you sought a Master who would do this for you, and it was your opinion that this ruled out anyone much younger than yourself?

quote:

It is much different from a Dominant perspective from what am seeing as the Dominant is the Controller, guide, teacher to more specifically but not limited to teaching the slave about the Dominants wants/ways. The outside world parts aren't as important on this flip side?


I am afraid I don't understand what you meant by that last sentence.

quote:

And you are correct..I've not been subjected to this as have always known that might on a personal level be issue for me so have sought Owners that fell into my age bracket, and gone from there. This really wasn't just meant as a being around others in general interaction socially as far as being respectful as yes to do what you suggested would have this girls hide in flames once Master was done.


Ok, it sounds like you're saying what I wrote above, that as a free woman seeking slavery, you sought a Master of a particular type for these reasons. Although the reasons you give here seem to go only towards why you would disqualify those younger, but sheds no light on what you think is wrong with older... but anyway.

I don't think there's anything wrong with a free woman who seeks to become a slave developing standards as to what she looks for in a Master - quite the contrary. It's the smart thing to do.

I do have a quibble still about age, as I think what you're doing here is a broad generalisation, and while it's most often true, it's the exceptions you are looking for anyhow, regardless of age. But I certainly see the point.

But that was then. Try a thought experiment now. What if your Master decided to give you to a much older, or much younger, Master tomorrow?

>Raphaël

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RE: Does age really matter - 10/25/2005 4:14:28 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: EmeraldSlave2

Yeah I always find it weird that people realize later in life that it takes a very mature person in order to have a good lasting healthy relationship with someone else- maturity which majority comes only in time and experience.

And yet we encourage the younger, just barely adults to be the ones to give birth and raise entire new persons on their own!

Never made sense to me.


In earlier days many did not live long enough to reproduce otherwise.

And, physically at least, we are still better prepared to do that when relatively young. Particularly the females.

>R

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RE: Does age really matter - 10/25/2005 5:41:49 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Raphael
In earlier days many did not live long enough to reproduce otherwise.

In earlier days children were expected to be fully contributing family members well before adolescense. I understand cultural rituals and expectations can take time to break out of, but this is one that's past due IMO.
quote:


And, physically at least, we are still better prepared to do that when relatively young. Particularly the females.

Physically we are better capable of PRODUCING children. Emotionally, mentally, and relationship wise we're at a very weak position to RAISE them.

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RE: Does age really matter - 10/25/2005 6:18:06 PM   
Raphael


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quote:

ORIGINAL: EmeraldSlave2


quote:

ORIGINAL: Raphael
In earlier days many did not live long enough to reproduce otherwise.

In earlier days children were expected to be fully contributing family members well before adolescense. I understand cultural rituals and expectations can take time to break out of, but this is one that's past due IMO.


Why?

quote:

quote:


And, physically at least, we are still better prepared to do that when relatively young. Particularly the females.

Physically we are better capable of PRODUCING children. Emotionally, mentally, and relationship wise we're at a very weak position to RAISE them.


True enough. Of course, many aren't in any better position later either, but...

One reason I tend to think extended families are important, really.

>R


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RE: Does age really matter - 10/25/2005 6:50:38 PM   
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I don't feel age is as big a factor as meshing wants and desires ... although it certainly is important on some level.

People are very complicated and have maturity on many different levels. To use a few examples presented her, I feel very confident that I could converse and entertain a business contact. My foster father has business associates over quite often, and I very much enjoy their company. But, taking care of children ... you must be kidding? I can't even take care of myself most of the time.

All that said, no matter how you are, there are people out there of all ages that are looking for someone just like you. There are people out there that want nothing more in life than a fucked up partner that they can take care of. The next person may only want a person that is fully self sufficient.

I guess the point I'm making is that I don't believe any hard and fast rules apply.

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RE: Does age really matter - 10/26/2005 9:49:56 AM   
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Age does matter to me, personally i seek someone that is fairly near my own age, why?

i would like to think i could have a long term relationship, with a much younger man i would worry that he may not stay around when old age sets in; and a much older man i would hate to lose. Saying that i know that nothing in life is quaranteed and you could lose any partner at anytime.

however i dont equate age to experience, i have met a few young dominant men and i would put them head and shoulders above a number of older so called experienced men.

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RE: Does age really matter - 10/26/2005 12:45:14 PM   
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I enjoy the company of young female doms and mature female doms...They both have their positives and their negatives...but mostly positives...(of course, for some reason...a lot of younger doms think that I am the pervert!)

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RE: Does age really matter - 10/27/2005 8:36:35 AM   
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I believe age is relative. It also depends if you refer to chronological age or the age of maturity of a person. Yet reflecting not so long ago, I realised that when seeking a kajira, I was thinking in terms of someone close to half my chorological age and nearer to the age of my Wife/FC. My reasons for doing so were interesting to me but not relative to this post. What I did find was that it seems unlikely that a girl of the age group I had in mind was unlikely to want to have for a Master a cantankerous old grizzly who has a couple of medical problems (Osteoarthritis in one leg and erectile dysfunction) when she is in her sexual prime and is Married to his Free Companion. Sort of weighs against the possibility of a successful result so to speak. As I’ve commented in a couple of poems I posted in my blog, there come a time when you put away some things like collars etc and enjoy memories. Now whilst we’ll still keep searching for a suitable boy to fill my Lady’s collar I put a stop to my own search but have not locked the female slave pen doors, for as sure as the sun will shine somewhere tomorrow, and from experience, once I stop looking, the fates who are fickle at the best of times are just as likely to land the right kajira at my door when I least expect or am ready for it. Just a few thoughts as I have a last smoke before heading off to bed at 1.45am.

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