Elisabella
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ORIGINAL: MontrealPhoenix
Greetings Elisabella,
So you don't see how everything you do - or don't do - reflects on your Master? How your every action makes HIM look bad? Now that does not compute but to each their own. I admit i've never been to a Gorean gathering but i don't imagine very many Free go around saying that they want a slave to go get them a drink because they are Free and the slave's a slave. It's just what slaves do...(gee i hope that makes sense, it's late).
I couldn't imagine thinking twice. I would just DO it...sorry what you're saying does not compute, as you say.
phoenix
I definitely see that it reflects on my Master. If he wants me to do something he orders me to do it - that reflects on what he considers important. If he doesn't care either way about something, he lets me do whichever I want - that reflects on his apathy. If he doesn't want me to do something, he orders me not to do it - that reflects on his disdain.
If for some reason or another he went to a Gorean party (say for instance one of the men he gets along with on this board wanted to have a get together and said it would have Gorean protocol) then he would show his respect for the host by having me follow that protocol. It's not about whether or not I do follow the protocol - it's about *why* I follow it. I wouldn't be following it because I felt that the Free deserved my respect. I would be following it because my Master told me to.
And I would honestly be able to say, my Master is the only person I serve. Every drink I give to a Free person is just another way I'm serving my Master. The person would likely never know it, and he's probably only concerned about whether his drink is there or not, but his Free status doesn't enter into the equation at all. His only status in my mind is "a person my Master told me to obey."
Obviously there would be no difference between the way you act and the way I act in that situation. Because it's not about the actions to me - its about who I belong to and who I serve.
To be honest I think the idea of "respecting the free because they are free" is a bit different in our society than it is in the theoretical world of the books. I doubt any of the "Free men" here know someone who had to make the choice of "slavery or death". I doubt the majority of Free Women maintained their chastity (their metaphorical veils) until they were married. I doubt many of the Free Women never had a 'girls night out' when they were younger, where they wore a low cut top, got tipsy and flirted with strangers. Flirting is not a collarable offense here.
The difference between this world and Gor is that in Gor, you had to actually work hard and sacrifice a few things in order to keep your status as Free.
In fact, the ONLY thing you have to do to maintain your "freedom" is to NOT actively seek out slavery. It's not 'honourable' to maintain it - it's the status quo. Sure there are other forms of 'slavery' - Does the 'free' person smoke cigarettes? Smoke pot? Are they an alcoholic? Do they work compulsively, or on the flip side, are they unable to maintain a steady job? Do they shop compulsively? Gamble? Are they a compulsive liar, exaggerating their lives to feel important?
So in my mind, saying "I am Free" is not enough to earn respect this day and age. First of all, are you really free? Second of all, does your 'freedom' consist of more than simply existing? And third of all, are you an honourable man?
If a man can answer yes to those questions, he just might have my respect. But in a world where any stranger on the street is considered "free" I can't make the leap to saying all of those people are of a higher status than I am.
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