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Retreat topic points - 6/23/2008 1:31:00 PM

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Greetings All,
We are hosting a Masters Retreat soon and one of the activities will be discussion groups on different topics. This will not be a class, but a discussion time with a bulleted handout to help start the topic and guide the discussion time.

I would like to ask the forum, submissives mostly, what do you think would be the 3 most important points for a Master to consider, know, learn, and discuss on these three topics?

Knowing yourself and your needs

Effective training, discipline and punishments

Meeting the needs of the slave
Thank you for your input and ideas. Feel free to either post here or send in private to mail box.
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RE: Retreat topic points - 6/23/2008 2:05:27 PM

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ORIGINAL: goodpet
Knowing yourself and your needs

Know your limits
Admit your limits
Prioritize- you can't have it all at the same time just because you want it

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Effective training, discipline and punishments

Punishments are the least effective method of behavior training and should be used the least
Behavior problems are almost always symptoms of much larger problems
Choose consequences that are directly related to the behavior you want to train

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Meeting the needs of the slave

Accept that you might not always be who/what they need
Again, prioritization
You are not a mind reader and shouldn't be held to that standard

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RE: Retreat topic points - 6/23/2008 2:11:21 PM

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Knowing yourself and your needs

What dynamic do you want? How will it be set up? Managed? maintained? Where can you gain experience of this working well?

Effective training, discipline and punishments

Punishments IMO are for when stuff fucks up badly ... and when it fucks up badly nothing is going to get solved with a cane ... many cannot see beyond the retribution and fail to recognise the need for rehabilitation.

When a slave messes up, a Master should examine if they gave the slave the equipment to succeed. DV taught me to iron his shirts before He expected me to do them perfectly ... just like I would show my pupils what the rules were before I expected them to be followed in class. But how many Masters honestly do that?

Meeting the needs of the slave

I feel the best way to meet the "needs" of a slave are to be a good Owner - be responsible, and behave with integrity. Sometimes thats all the slave needs.

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RE: Retreat topic points - 6/23/2008 3:35:04 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: softness

Knowing yourself and your needs

What dynamic do you want? How will it be set up? Managed? maintained? Where can you gain experience of this working well?

I like this last question, thanks

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Effective training, discipline and punishments

Punishments IMO are for when stuff fucks up badly ... and when it fucks up badly nothing is going to get solved with a cane ... many cannot see beyond the retribution and fail to recognise the need for rehabilitation.

When a slave messes up, a Master should examine if they gave the slave the equipment to succeed. DV taught me to iron his shirts before He expected me to do them perfectly ... just like I would show my pupils what the rules were before I expected them to be followed in class. But how many Masters honestly do that?

Sadly not all that many. They just expect the new sub will know and do things their way..

punishments is just one third of the topic.. it takes training (or teaching, showing, what ever you want to call it) and the discipline to learn and do it.. punishment is just a small part of the whole picture.

Any thoughts on the other two?

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Meeting the needs of the slave

I feel the best way to meet the "needs" of a slave are to be a good Owner - be responsible, and behave with integrity. Sometimes thats all the slave needs.

I agree with your comments. Do you have any insights on how to do that other then the universal just be a good person?

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RE: Retreat topic points - 6/23/2008 3:37:47 PM

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Ask Dark Victory ... He's the expert ... I just follow along behind and pick up the laundry

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RE: Retreat topic points - 6/23/2008 3:39:43 PM

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