amelliagrace
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Edited to add that all important, "FR" - Take such traits as pride, integrity, and loyalty, and set them in one group. In another, place concepts such as Home Stone, caste, personal sovereignty, freedom, embracing of one's nature. Now, in light of each of those, examine who is admired, and who is despised. What role do personal integrity, loyalty, and pride, etc play in who falls into the admired and despised camps? In what way do views held on Home Stone, caste, sovereignt, freedom, natural order (and so on) bear on who we place in each column? For me at least, it is not just a few traits, or even a few concepts, which define the who and what of me, myself, and I. The interplay between basic, bedrock concepts and traits, and how I elect to live them in light of my own nature, and the extent to which I revere them in my day to day existance DO have much to say of the who and why of me, myself, and I. It is the coupling of the basic, bedrock concepts and the more specivic traits which determine how I view and respond to individuals, circumstances, and events. So, too, does the actual living out of those traits and concepts determine what is deemed acceptable, and what isn't. Personally, I find those difference in opinion to often be surprising, occaisionally shocking, and always worth examining. They bring me back to an examination of basic, fundamental traits, virtues, and concepts with an expanded paradigm that is, to me at least, invaluable. That is the conversation I was hoping to get to. Oh, well, can't blame a Woman for trying. The disparity between how individuals wearing the same lable, and holding dear the same concepts and traits, think and behave says much about the group as a whole, and it's trueness or lack thereof, to nature. Sometimes, it is that very disparity which serves to define a group perhaps even more starkly than a narrow checklist. Perhaps, eventually, folks will begin to think about those convoluted and underlying issues, and the thread will move in that direction. But even if it doesn't, it has at least been an opportunity for tweaking noses, tossing spit balls, the raising of danders, and other such levitus (probably not a word, but oughta be) endeavors. Regards Grace
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