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RE: Cuckolding - 1/17/2006 11:56:39 PM   
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1). He wants to be humiliated and shown he is inadequate
2). he wants you to recieve pleasure, whereever or however
3). he has voyeristic tendancies


A psychiatrist I know says there's a lot of reasons, but an often overlooked cause is having unrecognized homosexual tendencies. A man may get to watch and possibly touch up close and personal.

Masochism also plays a strong rôle (suprise!) except in cases of a disinterested husband who is too tired or not attracted to women or at least his wife. He may feel another man will take the 'burden of pressure' off his shoulders.

Conversely, some men take pride in their wife as a sex object, and want to show her off. An offshoot of this is familiar to some women in that the husband wants another man to validate his opinion.

The shrink says some are drawn to the drama of the situation, like having their own private soap opera. Sometimes these desires develop in childhood. She described a wannabee culkolder whose mother used to make him watch whilst she fucked and sucked friends of his. (My impression was that they were young, as old as teens, but perhaps younger.)

The short term effects may seem harmless but in the long term, the relationship suffers irreparable harm and disintegrates. According to her, the underlying causes are rooted in an unhealthy psyche or esteem. If you can't walk away from such a man, RUN.


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RE: Cuckolding - 1/20/2006 11:14:37 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Petruchio

quote:

1). He wants to be humiliated and shown he is inadequate
2). he wants you to recieve pleasure, whereever or however
3). he has voyeristic tendancies


A psychiatrist I know says there's a lot of reasons, but an often overlooked cause is having unrecognized homosexual tendencies. A man may get to watch and possibly touch up close and personal.

Masochism also plays a strong rôle (suprise!) except in cases of a disinterested husband who is too tired or not attracted to women or at least his wife. He may feel another man will take the 'burden of pressure' off his shoulders.

Conversely, some men take pride in their wife as a sex object, and want to show her off. An offshoot of this is familiar to some women in that the husband wants another man to validate his opinion.

The shrink says some are drawn to the drama of the situation, like having their own private soap opera. Sometimes these desires develop in childhood. She described a wannabee culkolder whose mother used to make him watch whilst she fucked and sucked friends of his. (My impression was that they were young, as old as teens, but perhaps younger.)

The short term effects may seem harmless but in the long term, the relationship suffers irreparable harm and disintegrates. According to her, the underlying causes are rooted in an unhealthy psyche or esteem. If you can't walk away from such a man, RUN.




You left out men who want to take advantage of how sperm competition dynamics can strongly enhance their libidos, orgasms, and even their sperm count.

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RE: Cuckolding - 1/20/2006 7:11:30 PM   
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i have learned much reading these posts on cuckolding. The thought of having a domme who would be thrilled of having such powerfull control over me ( for her amusement ) is indeed it self, a thrill but,... i can't bring my self to anything involving a nother guy.That aside, oooo! the rush that being "that toltoly" Her's most be.

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RE: Cuckolding - 1/20/2006 7:37:16 PM   
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Cuckolding involves an essential contempt for the person being cuckolded. Why would I be in a relationship with someone I had no respect for?

There are many facets to humiliation play, and plenty of players to engage in the different aspects. Finding them, and creating satisfactory relationships with them, is the difficulty. I can't imagine what the "rest" of the relationship with someone into cuckolding would be like.

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forgot to add this. i can't imagine being in any kind of submisive relationship where the Domme would have utter contempt towards me either.

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RE: Cuckolding - 1/20/2006 8:27:30 PM   
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Having contempt for the cuckold is a fallacy ... makes great theatrics, but if it's the basis of the relationship then someone needs to go to relationship school 101.

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RE: Cuckolding - 1/22/2006 6:29:04 AM   
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Wow..i have always found a wide variety of definitions but i thought the idea that the submissive (hey that's me), puts my Dominants pleasure before mine and part of surrendering myself to her is that jealous claim.
Now not to be stereotypical but many women, it seems, are so relationship based that the conection transcends any physical pleasure and the partnership is paramount...hey whatever it's about giving her options....it's about true sacrifice for her...not for your kink...and here is where i confuse even myself since i get tremendous pleasure for seeing her pleasured...BUT this is not for the weak of heart if you can;t surrender this..don't it will kill ya. If you don't have the self worth and selflessness...you'll never survive the ego blow of watching her with another.


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I have never really viewed my situation as cuckolding, but I think the term works.

My Domme is a switch. She has a real need to be dominated sexually and is also a masochist. Due to our relationship I cannot fulfill those needs for her. (To even try would ruin the whole thing, and neither of us wants that.)

One morning after she had visited her Dom, for fun, I made up a little multiple choice question. The question was for me, not for her.

When a man wakes up in the morning and finds that the woman he loves spent the night with another man, his reaction would be to?

A - Become enraged and beat the crap out of her.
B - Become despondent knowing his relationship with her is over.
C - Go hunt down this man and beat the crap out of him.
D - Be very happy knowing she just had a wonderful time.

As a certified freak I of course answered D.

I have never watched this, but admit, being the perv that I am, I would enjoy doing so. But no "F***king" way would I clean up after.


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RE: Cuckolding - 1/22/2006 2:32:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: siamsa24

I can't imagine being with another


Well, to get into cuckholding, not only would you have to imagine it, but you'd have to get off on it.

I'm curious, if you use a vibrator and conjour images of Pierce Broson with a beard and bikini underwear, does that qualify as cuckholding, cheating, or just run-of-the mill masturbation? Does matter if you observed or unobserved?

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RE: Cuckolding - 1/23/2006 4:08:05 PM   
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I live in a cuckolding relationship,although I do live with a woman who is also My slave,not that it matters...anyway...Why do it? For U/us its about control,I have it she doesnt . I know its not always easy for her,but she wants to do it to show her devotion.
I talk with her often so she knows I wont let her go.It deepens O/our relationship just by the fact W/we are communicating.

What I get out of it is the freedom to choose.The feeling of control.Powerful to control the pleasure of My slave girl.The look on her sweet face as she looks on...its indescribable.

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RE: Cuckolding - 1/26/2006 4:09:50 PM   
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And this was a bad thing?

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RE: Cuckolding - 1/26/2006 4:40:37 PM   
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That's interesting, and something I've noticed also, but I tend to avoid psychiatric explanations of the things we do, because they're often based on outrageous assumptions.

I think every cuckold and cuckold-lover will have his or her own explanation of why it excites them, how it makes them feel, and why they do it, but one constant I've noticed is the cuckold's need to relate to other men. Sometimes it's a need to be humiliated by another man (fuck my wife, I'm not man enough to do it); sometimes it's a need to be admired by another man (fuck my wife, she's really hot, so that means I must be a great guy); sometimes it's other things, or a combination of things. But I honestly have never met a cuckold who says he does it ONLY to make his partner happy. That obviously has to play a role too, but in my experience there is always some kind of primal association that the cuckold feels with the bull (and one that is not always reciprocated by the bull). That's why the act of cleaning the wife after the bull is finished with her--whether by eating her out, licking her, whatever--seems to be so common.

I was once in a complicated relationship that, in retrospect, was clearly bull-wife-cuckold, but at the time I thought it was master-slave-slave's vanilla husband. The slave's vanilla husband became a cuckold when she came home one day and forced him to eat my come out of her vagina. At that point, I became a bull, and didn't realize it. (The cuckold eventually killed himself, but that's a different matter.)

Lam

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ORIGINAL: Petruchio

A psychiatrist I know says there's a lot of reasons, but an often overlooked cause is having unrecognized homosexual tendencies. A man may get to watch and possibly touch up close and personal.



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RE: Cuckolding - 1/26/2006 5:11:33 PM   
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I was once in a complicated relationship that, in retrospect, was clearly bull-wife-cuckold, but at the time I thought it was master-slave-slave's vanilla husband. The slave's vanilla husband became a cuckold when she came home one day and forced him to eat my come out of her vagina. At that point, I became a bull, and didn't realize it. (The cuckold eventually killed himself, but that's a different matter.)

Lam
That is a horrible story, and possibly an argument against cuckoldry?
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RE: Cuckolding - 1/26/2006 5:15:15 PM   
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The fact that one unstable person killed himself after being forced into a demeaning situation that he was too fragile to handle is not a blanket argument against cuckoldry.

It's probably just an argument against doing things without thinking about the consequences.

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RE: Cuckolding - 1/26/2006 5:20:27 PM   
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The fact that one unstable person killed himself after being forced into a demeaning situation that he was too fragile to handle is not a blanket argument against cuckoldry.
True it shouldn't deter all folks from the practice, but that fact is definitely an "against cuckoldry" point if we were arguing for or against cuckoldry (which we aren't, because I'm not for it now, but don't say "Never" to the idea)... M

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RE: Cuckolding - 1/27/2006 6:01:44 PM   
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If I may impose, could I please have get this spelled out for me in detail.

Google turned up a very large definition. Ranging from no sex and sexual contact to oral gential service of the dominate partner with no genital intercourse. To the cockholded person being made to watch the intamacy of the dominate partner with a third part then forced to orally clean the dominate partner.

However I have asked this of those who have listed it in their profile without answer.

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RE: Cuckolding - 1/27/2006 11:06:47 PM   
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There aren't any universal rules about this. It's not like you get thrown out of the Cuckolds' Club if you violate the ordinances. Every cuck couple is different and does their thing in their own way.

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RE: Cuckolding - 1/28/2006 1:35:00 PM   
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ihad no where to put this but i stuck it here. here is my question i have a male i have been speaking to for about year we both care for one another and he wants to be the wife in the realtionship when we began we parted but are now back together i find him to be an honest caring man, he finds me to be the domme he has search for for some time, we have both spoke of the reality of what each of us wants in the new realtionship i want to be the husband and he the wife , this is fine with me i will handle all of the money and he has no say in what i do with it no i will not gamble or shop. but i like and find this so so very pleasing to have him more of a slave this anything as anyone done this with their partners the exchange of roles he is more then willing, and trust that i will not ruin or go overboard with anything, like beating as in punishments, please let me know what you think i do not need any ideals or suggestion but just if anyone domme has experince the husband wife exchange

mons

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RE: Cuckolding - 1/29/2006 2:08:11 AM   
mons


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in my reply to all of you about taking a wife and all that goes with it i didnot need to sayi did not need advice so iwould hope that you please read it again and yes always domme do not know it all
so your input is need


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RE: Cuckolding - 1/29/2006 7:04:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: lonewolfe

If I may impose, could I please have get this spelled out for me in detail.

Google turned up a very large definition. Ranging from no sex and sexual contact to oral gential service of the dominate partner with no genital intercourse. To the cockholded person being made to watch the intamacy of the dominate partner with a third part then forced to orally clean the dominate partner.

However I have asked this of those who have listed it in their profile without answer.

I have seen some profiles where she lists requiring the male to submint to cuckolding .From what i read on these threads one would believe that it,s pretty much the male who is intreasted in cuckolding. i for one am not into subing under this kind of arangment yet,.. i do enjoy reading about it.When i googled it i was bombarded with info on moveis not info.
What is the domme seeking / goals / intrest in cuckolding ? What links actualy talk on this subject ? i would like to gain better under standding of this concept.

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RE: Cuckolding - 1/30/2006 1:57:04 PM   
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I just googled it cant say I remember the search words

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RE: Cuckolding - 1/30/2006 2:27:33 PM   
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Cuckolding is to make a cuckold of a husband, which is to say that the husbands wife is cheating on him. Didn't you read Othello?
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hell no. where "I" come from othello is a board game.


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