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Would you "will" your slave to another...? - 8/16/2008 4:48:57 PM   
Hiskajirah


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Master's: I beg to know please- In the event of your death and making prior arrangements, would you stipulate that your slave be "willed" to another? While this would not hold up in court, it could be added to your Living Will or Traditional Will as a last wish or testement. Regardless of legalities it would still be your will, your choice and your decision.

I look forward to your answers and thoughts.

Slaves: Would you obey and abide by your Master's last will that you become the property of a man that he has chosen for you, whether you know him or not?

I also look forward to your comments.

Thank you in advance for any participation.

I wish you all most well

Sincerely,
~twinkle

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RE: Would you "will" your slave to another...? - 8/16/2008 4:58:25 PM   
xBullx


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RE: Would you "will" your slave to another...? - 8/16/2008 4:59:46 PM   
Thadius


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First I would point out that there have been a few topics on this subject here over the last couple of years, so there may be some info in those that doesn't come up in this one.

Personally, I have not willed my slave to anybody, and I am not sure that I will.  I have arranged for her to be taken care of, in case the impossible happens and I die.  Afterall, when I am gone she regains her autonomy, and can rightly decide if she wishes to serve another or to travel the rest of the path on her own.

That is about as simple as I can state my feelings on the topic.

The (hopefully) immortal,
Thadius

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RE: Would you "will" your slave to another...? - 8/16/2008 5:57:15 PM   
XaviersXian


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Status: offline 		greetings twinkle,

Master has talked about informally doing something along these lines, but whether he eventually will or not, I don't know. 

Though I can't accurately speak *for* him, my guess is that his final wishes for me would be to "carry on as usual" after his death, and know that I have his blessing for a new relationship, should I choose that path.

As for obeying, if it is what he wished, I'd do it without another thought (I trust him to make safe decisions for me, I know he'd never put me in a situation that would cause me harm).

well wishes,

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RE: Would you "will" your slave to another...? - 8/16/2008 6:09:28 PM   
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I had an informal arrangement for my slaves at one point. I do not think it would stand up under legal scrutiny but if the person the slave was going to be "willed to" was advised and in agreement with it and the slave was advised that this is what their Master wanted should something happen to him, it could happen informally. I will double check with my lawyer about this and let you know what she says. Legally I think the slave can do whatever they want and go wherever they want. In the cases that I know of, where something has been arranged before a Master died, the slave did at least initially go to the new owner. Not all of them stayed. But there was someone there for them when something happened.

There are some things that are good to have such as medical powers of attorney when the Master and slave are not married to each other. That way if something happens to them, the other can do something about it. I have those with my slaves now. I am thankful that they have never been used.

Be well....

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RE: Would you "will" your slave to another...? - 8/16/2008 8:24:45 PM   
opposingtwilight


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Hiskajirah

Slaves: Would you obey and abide by your Master's last will that you become the property of a man that he has chosen for you, whether you know him or not?



Oh thats a good question.

Honestly, I don't think I would become the property of another man upon my Master's death. As romantic as it might sound to tell myself that I would be a good girl and obey his last command, I just don't think I could bring myself to actually go through with it.

I imagine I would be so devestated at having lost such a crucial part of my life, I wouldn't make a very good slave to someone new anyway and as it is, our society is not such that I would -need- a Master to own me at that point. So, no. I would probably not do that.

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RE: Would you "will" your slave to another...? - 8/16/2008 9:57:38 PM   
Hiskajirah


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Thank you Master Bull for answering
Thank you Master Thadius for answering
Thank you Master Malkinius for answering
Thank you Xian for answering
Thank you twilight for answering

This subject is one that has been in the forefront of my mind for sometime. I'm quite sure that my Master will "will" me to another man. But I know also that if he doesn't...in his death I will be set free for the first time in my life. Having freedom I have never had before, never felt before. He would never free me in his lifetime. I know he has 3 potential men for me. He simply has not chosen to tell me who at this point. Part of me wants to know and then another part does not. I will though.. no matter what his decision obey that decision even beyond death. I do have one thought running through my head though and that is..that if I'm set free my his death, I will retain the collar he put me in and live out my days celebate and within it. Trust me, I can accomplish that. smiles

Well wishes to all,
~twinkle


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RE: Would you "will" your slave to another...? - 8/16/2008 10:06:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		I would not. I would suggest someone. But it would be up to her if she wanted to go or not. I would make sure she had a place to stay and some money to last her a while. That way she could figure out her next move.


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RE: Would you "will" your slave to another...? - 8/16/2008 10:23:21 PM   
Hiskajirah


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This is more along the lines of what I'm speaking of. For her to have a place to go and some money for her to be taken care from. Since we're living a gorean by gorean ideals, philosphies, codes, etc, I would abide my any decision my Master made for me, but the bottom line is he would want me cared for. At the very least, a mat at the end of a Master's bed, food, rags, and the mininal necessities to survive. I'm not materalistic and am happy by the tinest gifts, or words of praise. I've always been happienst making others happy.

I do know this much at this point- I would go to a black man, my Master's brother, an Irish man, my Master's brother, or an Italian man who could be called my Master's brother but not as close as the others.

I know without a doubt his only concern is that I be taken care of.

My Master's own money would supplicate that care. Nothing would need to come out of the prospective mans pocket.

I 'm grateful for your reply,

Please be as well as you can be,
~twinkle

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RE: Would you "will" your slave to another...? - 8/17/2008 4:11:44 AM   
MontrealPhoenix


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Greetings Mistresses,
Greetings property,
 
Greetings twink,
 
I've been thinking about this topic since last night. I know in my heart that yes i would do his bidding and go with the Master i would be willed to - albeit unhappily. It would, after all, be my Master's will that i do so and i would obey. I would trust him to choose a man who would take care of me, that he would have given the matter a lot of thought, and that his choice would not be an impulsive one.
 
please be as well as you can be,
 
phoenix

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RE: Would you "will" your slave to another...? - 8/17/2008 9:30:10 AM   
blacksword404


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ORIGINAL: Hiskajirah

Greetings Master

This is more along the lines of what I'm speaking of. For her to have a place to go and some money for her to be taken care from. Since we're living a gorean by gorean ideals, philosphies, codes, etc, I would abide my any decision my Master made for me, but the bottom line is he would want me cared for. At the very least, a mat at the end of a Master's bed, food, rags, and the mininal necessities to survive. I'm not materalistic and am happy by the tinest gifts, or words of praise. I've always been happienst making others happy.

I do know this much at this point- I would go to a black man, my Master's brother, an Irish man, my Master's brother, or an Italian man who could be called my Master's brother but not as close as the others.

I know without a doubt his only concern is that I be taken care of.

My Master's own money would supplicate that care. Nothing would need to come out of the prospective mans pocket.

I 'm grateful for your reply,

Please be as well as you can be,
~twinkle



I think it's good you would obey him that last time. If we were that close that someone would leave me their slave to care for i would make a place for them even if i had to bear the expense myself. In that case we would be like brothers and family is supposed to take care of each other.


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RE: Would you "will" your slave to another...? - 8/17/2008 9:42:00 AM   
Maahsatti


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Status: offline 		Hi there twinkly girl,

You might wanna ask your Master about willing you to me for a time. Number 1 I could be there to help you get over your grief, I know you woul never totally, but I would be there during your hardest hours. Then I would help you make the adjustment to go from me to a man of your Masters wishes or if he did not state any such man, I would help you find one.

Just a thought to ponder anyways dear.

Much care,
Mistress Maah


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RE: Would you "will" your slave to another...? - 8/17/2008 9:48:53 AM   
Maahsatti


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we would be like brothers and family is supposed to take care of each other.


Greetings Blacksword,

I have always felt the Gorean community to be a family and I have always stated, we take care of our own.

Good post, dear man.

Take care,
Maah


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RE: Would you "will" your slave to another...? - 8/17/2008 9:53:04 AM   
Thadius


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Status: offline 		Afternoon all,

A random thought just occured to me, pehaps a bit of devil's advocate.  What would be the feelings towards somebody that wished their slave to take a cyanide pill, or follow closely behind?  For the slaves out there, would you follow such a request?

Curiosity has gotten the better of me on this one,
Thadius

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RE: Would you "will" your slave to another...? - 8/17/2008 9:54:51 AM   
ShreveportMaster


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RE: Would you "will" your slave to another...? - 8/17/2008 10:00:26 AM   
Thadius


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Shakes My head at Thad... A slave is a terrible thing to waste.


I completely agree, but let's not fool ourselves into thinking that some folks wouldn't make such a request.  Or even the fact that a slave might actually honor such a request.  That is where my curious side was aiming, I wanted to know if any would do either, I should probably expect that those that would make the request wouldn't admit to it though in public...

Selling stock in cyanide pill makers,
Thadius

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RE: Would you "will" your slave to another...? - 8/17/2008 10:13:59 AM   
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Jim Jones does come to mind.   Want some koolaid little girl???

~grins~

Liz

Edited to add HUGE disclaimer:  In no way shape or form am I making light of the tragedy at Jonestown.   My comment was a follow up to Thadius's comment, completely tongue in cheek.

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RE: Would you "will" your slave to another...? - 8/17/2008 10:17:09 AM   
Maahsatti


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Status: offline 		Hi Thadius,

While I am not a Man/Master. I am a FW who has owned slaves.

I would never expect nor want such a thing from my property and I should think, that any healthy slave, both mentally and physically healthy, would not abide such a request from her owner.
Such a request from an owner should immediately and undeniably send out such a large red flag to the slave, that their owner is not playing with a full deck...(chuckles)

Take care,
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RE: Would you "will" your slave to another...? - 8/17/2008 10:53:29 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Thadius

quote:

ORIGINAL: ShreveportMaster

Shakes My head at Thad... A slave is a terrible thing to waste.


I completely agree, but let's not fool ourselves into thinking that some folks wouldn't make such a request.  Or even the fact that a slave might actually honor such a request.  That is where my curious side was aiming, I wanted to know if any would do either, I should probably expect that those that would make the request wouldn't admit to it though in public...

Selling stock in cyanide pill makers,
Thadius


You would bring something like this up. Lmao. I say if the master wished for her to kill herself after his death then once he is dead she can disobey him and he can come back from the dead and punish her himself.


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RE: Would you "will" your slave to another...? - 8/17/2008 11:20:25 AM   
MRandme


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and to the property,

If my Master were to will me to another, i would go.  i would not promise to stay but i would go and make the best attempt i could.  i don't think He would require  me to go to another but can imagine Him making suggestions.

Would i kill myself at His bidding? No, nor could i ever conceive Him asking that of me -- i was a mother before i was ever a slave and there are those who still need me.  One reason i chose to become His was His insistence that my service to Him would not take anything away from them.

Wishing all well,

g


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