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dcnovice -> President Palin? (8/29/2008 9:14:18 AM)

Nine times in U.S. history (eight deaths and one resignation), the Vice President has become President. It's not beyond the realm of the possible for Sarah Palin to inherit the top job.

Would she be qualified for it?



kittinSol -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 9:15:45 AM)

Well, they say that she's pretty [&:] . She must be okay then.



cyberdude611 -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 9:16:21 AM)

Yet you think Obama qualified?

Palin has more executive experience than Obama. Obama makes laws, he's never run a government. Palin has been the leader of a state government. This is why governors typically win presidential elections over senators.



kittinSol -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 9:18:51 AM)

What would she do against abortion rights, if at all? She's "pro-life". That's what concerns me the most. Any ideas?



Thadius -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 9:18:55 AM)

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

Well, they say that she's pretty [&:] . She must be okay then.


Good to see you reducing the accomplishments of a woman down to just "she's pretty".  So much for that moral high ground you always preach about women being capable, eh?

Cyber already covered the executive experience part, I will leave it at that.



subtee -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 9:20:49 AM)

I'm imagining the debate between Palin and Biden on foreign policy issues. It seems they may be a factor in the coming years.



kittinSol -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 9:21:01 AM)

Are you joking? I am merely repeating what some of the Republican posters have said already on other threads. After indicting Obama for his popularity, they incense a potential president for her breasts and attractiveness. Of course it's fucking pathetic. Learn to read between the lines, if you will.



dcnovice -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 9:22:55 AM)

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Obama makes laws, he's never run a government.


Would this sentence remain true if you replaced Obama with McCain?



cyberdude611 -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 9:25:19 AM)

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

What would she do against abortion rights, if at all? She's "pro-life". That's what concerns me the most. Any ideas?


Nothing.

The president cant overturn Supreme Court decisions. The make-up of the court would have to be changed and a lawsuit would have to challange Roe vs Wade.

Now the president can change the make-up of the court. But only after a current judge resigns, impeached, or dies. And the selection would have to be approved by the Senate. So it's not like they get into office and decree all abortions illegal. It doesnt work that way. That's why abortion really should be a fringe issue for presidential politics because the president cant really directly challange what the Supreme Court has ruled. That goes against the check and balances of the constitution.



Asmodeus -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 9:25:57 AM)

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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

quote:

Obama makes laws, he's never run a government.


Would this sentence remain true if you replaced Obama with McCain?


Of course.

Which is why governors have made better president's than Senators in alomost all cases.

But Obama is running against McCain, not Palin.

And the point being made is that Palin, at least, has actual governemental management experience, as opposed to cushy jobs and professional politics.



dcnovice -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 9:30:57 AM)

If a senator is such a poor choice for President, why did the GOP nominate one?



LaTigresse -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 9:30:58 AM)

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

What would she do against abortion rights, if at all? She's "pro-life". That's what concerns me the most. Any ideas?


I don't think abortion has any business being an issue at that level of government, so no, regardless of my own personal feelings on the issue I really think it is a none issue.

Can she lead a country? Does she have a clue of foreign policy? Can she stand up to the attacks she would get, stand nose to nose with the middle eastern leaders that feel women are a second class citizen(at best) and do what is best for the whole country?

Those are the things I want to know about her. Those are the types of things that I seriously doubted in Obama. I've educated myself enough to have more confidence in his abilities.

It's still a moot point because I get spewy at the very idea of McCain being president.



bipolarber -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 9:31:48 AM)

Like I said in the other thread, this will really shake out during the VP debates. One one side, the young, inexpereinced, near total neophyte... on the other... Joe Biden, 25+ year veteran of politics.

I'm sure we'll learn a lot.

At least Cheany didn't try to nominate himself for the job again. Then again, maybe Dick is planning on using her as a puppet.


Say, isn't it McCain's Birthday today? Happy b-day, John McCain! What is he, It must make him feel good to think, that when his father had reached his age, he'd been dead for four years.



subtee -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 9:31:56 AM)

This is wrong; the President's nomination of Supreme Court vacancies is an expansive and very long-lasting power of influence.



dcnovice -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 9:32:42 AM)

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It's still a moot point because I get spewy at the very idea of McCain being president.


I think it's far from moot, LaT. McCain has a good chance of winning, and it's not impossible for Palin to wind up succeeding him.



LaTigresse -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 9:34:25 AM)

It is a moot point for ME. Big difference.

And I don't think his chances are as good as some people want to believe they are.



Owner59 -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 9:36:18 AM)

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ORIGINAL: subtee

This is wrong; the President's nomination of Supreme Court vacancies is an expansive and very long-lasting power of influence.


But she`s pretty...

Come on...

Does anyone know if she`s got a nice ass?

That`s important in SCOTUS picks..



cyberdude611 -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 9:37:08 AM)

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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

If a senator is such a poor choice for President, why did the GOP nominate one?


Historically, Senators dont win presidential elections. One will this time, obviously. But if you look over presidential elections in the history of this country....only a handful of senators have won while tons of governors and businessmen have won.

The reason has to do with leadership. There is a difference in the type of office. The president is an executive. He's a leader. He forms policy and executes the law. A Senator is more often than not a lawyer that writes complicated 1,000 page laws. And many times this contrast to obvious when you pair up a governor against a senator. That's why Bush won in 2004. The Democrats would have fared better I think against Bush had they nominated a governor rather than Kerry.



kittinSol -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 9:37:53 AM)

Fair enough - I would hate to see my rights taken away from me though. To answer your other points, she is speeching right now introducing her family, and describing her experience as hockey mum and president of the PTA. Now, there's nothing wrong with this, but that's all she has, together with 'fighting corruption' in the state of Alaska. She sounds great as a governor. A president though? Definitely not. Not yet anyway.



dcnovice -> RE: President Palin? (8/29/2008 9:38:58 AM)

I see your point, cd, but that still raises the question of why the GOP nominated a senator.



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