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ORIGINAL: xXLithiumXx

Do you have days where you feel you do nothing right? even if some one is standing over you telling you that you are?

Do you get emotional when you get corrected? And if so, why? What makes that better for you?

How do you feel the best way to correct or be corrected so that your feelings dont get hurt may be?

When it comes to service of a Mistress, versus service of a Master, do you feel there is a broad difference? What kind of difference do you see? Is it better? Or worse?

Do you hope for different things from a Mistress versus what you would hope for from a Master?

Is it harder to see a woman as a Dominant figure versus a man?

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Do you get emotional when you get corrected? And if so, why? What makes that better for you?

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  How do you feel the best way to correct or be corrected so that your feelings don't get hurt may be?

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ORIGINAL: xXLithiumXx Do you have days where you feel you do nothing right? even if some one is standing over you telling you that you are?

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Do you get emotional when you get corrected? And if so, why? What makes that better for you?

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How do you feel the best way to correct or be corrected so that your feelings dont get hurt may be?

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When it comes to service of a Mistress, versus service of a Master, do you feel there is a broad difference? What kind of difference do you see? Is it better? Or worse?

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Do you hope for different things from a Mistress versus what you would hope for from a Master?

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Is it harder to see a woman as a Dominant figure versus a man?

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ORIGINAL: barelynangel

You are on some level asking advice of howtos from women predominantly who are HELD in slavery by Men, who have mastered and enslaved them.   I am not sure if the answers of slaves would help a submissive in understanding her submission to you versus Gorean slaves surrender to their Master's mastery and enslavement.  The reason i am stressing this is because slaves of Gorean Men through the mastery and enslavement by Gorean Men learn mindsets of being a slave to those Men (Gorean Men).  There is a change in their perceptions of the world around them because they are actual slaves to men, in most cases.  

The concept that they get emotional when they are corrected can stem from them crying, or getting upset with herself or him, or pissed off at herself or him, or sulking, or pouting, or thinking the Man has lost his mind in his correction.  Why?  because a slave isn't in control of her emotions, she is a woman who has been mastered to the point where her inhibitions -- even those in how she reacts to certain things are very sensitive.  Correction is a form of negative consequence and the fact that the slave has been corrected puts her in a position of misery or defensiveness or well hell, this sucks.  And it also places them many times in a situation where they are looking for absolution in the form of then finding the security of having been pleasing in something.  A slave of a Gorean Man knows she is kept because of her value to him.   Sometimes a correction is simply a correction and a yes Master and correction of whatever it was that was insufficient is enough to get on with her day.  Sometimes, its a basket case, sometimes it anger of fuck off, etc.

What can make it better for a girl is across the board depending on the girl, sometimes getting her ass whipped will make her feel better, sometimes simply sucking it up and getting on with her day makes her feel better, sometimes speaking about it with her Master makes her feel better, sometimes crossing her eyes and sticking out her tongue at the floor she is cleaning as a consequence to her need for correction makes her feel better and sometimes NOTHING at that time but time could make her feel better.  There is no right or wrong way for a slave to feel better.  Sometimes it can be conditioned but usually hell its just a reaction that passes, if her not getting over it and feeling better draws another correction from her Master then its a concept she may not want addressed lol.

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  How do you feel the best way to correct or be corrected so that your feelings don't get hurt may be?

Does it matter?  Nope.  And a slave shouldn't be worried on HOW she is corrected for that decision is not up to her.  She will be corrected in the way her Master wishes her to be corrected.  This is part of the control aspect where she is not self-determining.  In my years of being a slave when i was one -- this concept would have never crossed my mind -- well Master if you would just do a, b, or c, to correct me, i would accept it with a smile.  Hell lol anything remotely like that would have had me getting my ass beat.  So a girl gets her feelings hurt.. oh well, so she pouts or sulks because her feelings are hurt, but i bet she doesn't do it again any time soon.

Hell yes there is a difference between serving a Mistress and serving a Master within the concept of Gor -- while status is the same -- Gorean slavery is based largely upon Men mastering and enslaving women, women existing for the pleasure of Men.  Serving women was just a sidebar so to speak of the slavery.  Gorean slavery was very concentrated on the sexual and sexuality aspect of slaves and that wasn't directed or needed from the FW -- the serving was just a side bar, especially with regard to women.  Gorean slaves were only fearful of FW because of the laws based on their status as slaves and that women know women and women can be worst bitches than an asshole Man could ever be.  So yes, there is a difference within the concept of Gor.  To me, unless a girl is lesbian and a FW was also, i really do not understand why she would choose a Gorean FW over a Gorean Man.  Most women are not capable of mastering and enslaving others.    Nor do most women of Gor i have found really have the desire too.  FW step into the role of authority over slaves they may own or own because of a FC, but master and enslave the girl... nahh.  So yes, i see a huge difference in serving Men over women personally.  I could say yes i would have a hard time serving a woman but when i was a slave -- i dont think i would have had it affect me as it does now after finding online and FW online compiled with i know no women could put me on my knees as a slave, so looking back i want to say yes i would have a hard time, but all in all, i think they would simply be a pigment within a picture of Free i would be serving more than likely because i was taught what my status was, and when i served beyond my master that is where i served from -- my mindset of status of a slave versus my mindset thinking someone actually was MY mistress.  

I could not and would not now join a home with a FC in it.  Most of that distaste has come from dealing with FW on this board over the last couple years, sadly, it has made me very firm that i would not become a slave to a Man who desired or had a FC or even a FW who he was really close too.  So i guess it depends.  Now, after dealing with those who say they are Gorean FW online, after having been a Goreans slave prior to finding online, i would see serving a Mistress different than a Man.   But, there is a status of slave and a status of free.  And sometimes the only thing separating a woman from being a slave is the lack of collar around her neck, but her status is that of a Free and she is therefore, socially above you as a slave.  That probably, if i ever become a slave again, would be one of the hardest mindsets to recapture and exist within.  The difference i would see now is that having been free, i would know the difference between her status and mine and at THIS moment, being free after being a slave lol i honestly don't know who would be better off, me as a slave, or she as a FW.  If that makes sense.  And please remember i am coming from the concept of slavery long ago and freedom on unsteady legs now.

As i wouldn't have a Mistress and there isn't a woman who could make me a slave so i would say i can't compare the two concepts.  I do know what i would need from a Master. 

I have rarely met a woman who is more dominant in personality than i am.  So lol yes, i do not see women as dominant figures because if push came to shove  -- no woman would ever put me in chains.   My slavery isn't based on a love of serving but is based from the mastery and enslavement needs of Men more powerful than myself.  I guess i view other women probably the same way Men view each other, they are no threat to me.  There is no woman i would kneel too without the initial mastery and enslavement by a Man and it would be by his expectation i would serve the FW if i were once again a slave.  There are women i respect who i see as teachers and friends who can help me at times, but i am too dominant of personality to ever see another woman as a Mistress or Dominant figure to me.  Again, Gorean slavery is not based on slaves being less dominant than FW.  Be careful of exchanging the concept of FW of Gor exchange for Dommes.  Gorean slavery's focus is a concept of Men enslaving women and women living to serve Men.  Men will enslave women, it doesn't mean she is an ultra submissive, she could be one of the most dominant personalities in the group and easily control and lead even FW and yes some men who are prone to following women.  There is also a difference i think in the concept of status -- status of Free does not indicate that someone is more dominant than a slave, it simply means that as a status of Free that person has rights as a Free over lesser status of slaves.  This isn't really dominance but more of the point authority concept.

But again, i am answering these from the crossroads of having been a slave offline for many years to a Gorean Man and now a woman who knows and understands Gor but who is free trying to figure out the world of FW of Gor.  I have an intermingling of understandings and mindsets.  So you have a combination of perceptions in my answers above.

angel

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ORIGINAL: xXLithiumXx

Do you have days where you feel you do nothing right? even if some one is standing over you telling you that you are?

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Do you get emotional when you get corrected? And if so, why? What makes that better for you?

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How do you feel the best way to correct or be corrected so that your feelings dont get hurt may be?

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When it comes to service of a Mistress, versus service of a Master, do you feel there is a broad difference? What kind of difference do you see? Is it better? Or worse?