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RE: Why are you here? - 10/3/2008 7:23:36 AM   
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Greetings ... I thought long and hard about responding in this thread. Even asked Liz her opinion as to me participating in this thread. Ive been around a good long whileas seen the board change and grow. Initally my interest was in learning about Gor from a different perspective I was drawn to posts by Leoniadas, Marcus, Simon, Stephann. They offered me food for thought and thusly generated discussion in our household which contains a majority of Goreans. I stayed because I found people in similar circumstances as I find myself and so had a place with people I know and like where I could discuss issues that arise both philosophically  as well in the day to day running of a TPE household. I enjoy the intensity of the debate that occurs here and the personal growth that has been motivated by it. The friendships and the discussions from all perspectives are why I stay. So I must say a personal thank you to all those who participate in the boards here in this intricate little cosmos that is collar me Gor, we are unique and I think important to the development of Gor both online and offline.

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RE: Why are you here? - 10/3/2008 10:34:25 AM   
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Tal all

I’ve given this a lot of thought, I too have questioned myself many times over the years, and I keep coming back to this…. The Gorean novels, professed a set of philosophies for me that I feel drawn to, that rang true for me in my journey. It's not the storyline it’s the grass roots way to live, honorably with integrity, being accountable, living within nature and the natural order to name a few.

Over the years I’ve made mistakes, owned up to them, no matter how hard it may have been at the time, and either privately or publicly apologized for them. To me that’s part and parcel on being in integrity and being accountable. Am I always honorable? I don’t think so, simply because I am human, I do however try. I am not perfect, and I do fail at times, this is part of my human condition.

I think part of what also draws me back time and again is because throughout the series the characters were allowed to grow, to grow from their decisions, mistakes, and guffaws. That in the end each character was better for it in one way or another.

I am on a journey, its not complete, and each day I learn something new. I hope to continue to do just that.

I wish you all well

Zarius

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RE: Why are you here? - 10/4/2008 1:57:21 PM   
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Greetings to all, I am new to this way of living and recently started to learn the ways of a slave, with help from others. I am hoping that in reading this section of the boards, to learn much as well as also grow in a personal way. One cannot learn enough and will never stop, but the journey shall fill her heart, mind, body and soul...this is my prayer. Respectfully....Teigan





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RE: Why are you here? - 10/4/2008 8:14:08 PM   
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Tal, Bull

I am here because a girl I know, histressure, brought me here a couple of years ago while I was visiting her and her Master.  She had told me of the sight and would read various threads that were being discussed that she would respond to.  I signed up because of her and because I too have questions that I was seeking answers to as well as having an unquenchable thirst to learn and for knowledge.


quote:

I found this thread to be most intresting, simply because it does ask a very thought provoking question. Why am I here? Intially, I came to these boards to have questions I have always had answered. I had a very dim view of the Gorean way and wanted to see if that view was justified.  Just like with anything else in life, to know you have to learn, and to learn you have to seek. So, I sought. And I found that my impressions of Gor and its ways had been jaded by half truths, rumors, role players and just plain ignorance on my part, and on the part of people who I spent time with.

As I read, and participated in discussion, (even if what I said was viewed as being arrogant or all knowing, which it wasnt meant to be, simply that I know my own mind and so on) I found that there was much to learn, and room to grow and to explore the possibility that my life, and the life around me was paralleled by the Gorean ethos. This was some what shocking to me, but instead of running from it, I became hungry to learn more, to experience more, to gather more. So, I began reading, studying, asking questions, and moving forward with my self education.  I found it a much better way to spend my time on line here, versus on other boards, or in other areas that left me no thinking room, and no room to grow as a person.


Lithium, I totally agree with you and have found myself doing the same.  Yes, I have even spent time online irc trying to find some of those answers and trying to get an understanding and all it has left me with is a feeling that I have been to 'Disney Gor'.  I barely frequent irc and when I do it is to see some friends that I have made over the years, in both the BDSM & Gorean communities. 

Now I just frequent these boards when I get chance, which is mostly on the weekend as I am usually helping my youngest with her homework.  I am happy to say that she lives more by my example than my ex's, and I say that because he is a very self-centered, selfish person who is all about "me" and unfortunately our oldest takes a bit more after him than she does me, but she is slowly waking up to the realization that it doesn't always work that way and I've been lucky enough to have gotten the Honesty and Integrity instilled into her.  The others are slowly coming as she asks more and sees how her younger sister is doing.  I even got her to laugh when her father asked me not to tell his mother something to which I responded back with "Nope, sorry I no longer can do that for you, besides which I refuse to do so.  I'm not married to you therefore I refuse to lie for you any  more just to keep you from getting the much needed ass chewing from your mother, so deal with it.  From now on if she doesn't ask, I won't tell, but if she asks, well all bets are off.  I've hated myself for all these years of having to lie to your parents just because you aren't man enough to stand up to them and tell them that it's your life and you will live it the way you want to."

Anyway, my life is better now for finally being able to be who I am and how I am and not compromising my beliefs and moral upbringing.  I enjoy the various topics of discussion that I have found on this board and the vast amount of knowledge and wisdom that is out there to learn, if one only just seeks it.  I hope never to grow tired from learning and hope never to stop growing.

I wish you all well.
Falaria



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RE: Why are you here? - 10/5/2008 4:49:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: NumberSix

When all the undercurrents of pettiness and all the board-board stuff goes away, there are people here who actually think.  Whether I find their conclusions right or wrong in my view, by god they have done  some examining, and have some good stories.


That sums it up neatly, Ron.

Contrary to popular opinion, I'm not here to preach, but to learn.

Sporadic conflicts are just a part of that process, and a part of being human; a means to an ends, not an ends unto itself.

I do my "preaching" offline, mostly by talking to people who are already willing to listen to ideas that sow seeds in their heads that eventually blossom. I am encouraged to find that a good part of them find the new flora to their liking, and come back for more seeds. And I am encouraged to find that there is such soil out there as will sustain those seeds, as I much prefer gardening to sticking plastic decoration flowers where they don't belong. In Norway, it is slow going, as it goes against the grain of our culture on virtually every point, but there are some who still have the blood of our ancesters in their veins and are able to see visions of a better future when someone lifts the veil of familiarity aside for a moment.

I'm a man who likes to eat the bite-sized chunks while busying his hands with the whole steak, so there's other stuff simmering, too, but the gratification comes from what can be done at the individual level, face to face, with people who have long since forgotten the potential they have within them. To see them realize the scope of the iceberg is rewarding indeed.

Health,
al-Aswad.


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RE: Why are you here? - 10/6/2008 1:25:44 PM   
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Good afternoon, Bull,

Hello, folks,

quote:

ORIGINAL: xBullx
I would like us all to examine why we take our time to gather here on a Gorean “lifestyle” board, a board that's supposed to mean we actually apply this philosophy to our lives.


I first found Gor in yahoo's adult chatrooms. From there, I became a voracious reader of the books as swiftly as I could gather them. As I read them, I returned to various chatrooms to discuss what I'd found in those books. I shared my own perspectives, listened to the views of others, & continued to explore this Gorean experience.

I loved yahoo's Gorean venues. I loved the "town square" style of it's public chatrooms. I loved the idea that the only way for one's ideas to exceed the ideas of others was through merit alone. There was no supreme power, no single authority who could silence a dissenting voice without argment. I loved the fact that it was the closest thing I've ever seen to "open debate". But yahoo, like all things, rose & fell.

For a few years I spent my online time on various message boards known to some of you, such as the GPB & the S&S Community Board. I thoroughly enjoyed my time there & I continued to learn, to expand my understanding of things Gorean in those places, thanks to minds far more superb than my own. But I missed the "town square" venue's open debate.

I'd been told by a dear friend of collarme's fora, & particularly of the Gorean Lifestyles forum. My interest was piqued through her discussions of deep philosophical points she'd encountered here, so I began reading here as a guest.

As I read I recognized the similarities, albeit with a more aware management, to the old yahoo chatrooms I'd so enjoyed. I realized that this was a "front line" of sorts, where misconceptions, misrepresentations & plain old ignorances could be addressed.  I read through the TOS, as well as the section guidelines & found that open exploration of the Gorean paradigm limited only by courtesy (& a few legal strictures) appealed to me immensely. I joined.

I relish the chance to participate here. I have learned much. I have also found depths to my long-held convictions that would never have been plumbed without the harsh scrutiny of the bright minds here. I look forward to coming here to read every day, even when there is little to anticipate besides pettiness & spite. I've found that those things do not deserve my time or attention & thus their presence here (as anywhere that there are large numbers of people with some semblance of freedom) is superfluous. Compared to the grace, wisdom, humor & balance I've found here, those brief episodes of shallow human antics is a small price to pay.

I am here for my own enjoyment, enlightenment & exploration. I will remain here as long as the management sees fit to maintain this site's singular open style.

Thank you, Bull, for the warm comments & the high praise. The knot on my forehead is gone from the last round headbutting between us. ;-D

I wish you well,

~Kimveri


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RE: Why are you here? - 10/6/2008 8:33:34 PM   
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Tal

Why to get lambasted and waylayed by so many twue Goreans of course. :-)
And perhaps somewhere in there learn and share thoughts and perhaps teach if needs may come.

LL

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RE: Why are you here? - 10/11/2008 1:24:37 PM   
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Why I'm here. I want to learn. I've come to realise since my Master died that theres something missing in my life. A need in me that I could find in the Gorean way of life.
The downside is that I'm a post op TS and not a biological female so my journey may still have to take another direction.
Aside from my TS status, nothing else in my profile is set in stone. Sacrifices and compromises if the journey is there.

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RE: Why are you here? - 10/15/2008 12:22:50 AM   
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dear hiskarhi

i was a friend to one of the slaves here ( the word you all use is very hard to spell ) so we wrote and talk and had a wonderful time . then she sent me a picture of her master a very handsome man. now i am an artist i spoke how fine he looked i am domme and i tell you she was so mad so angry she even told me that i was after him i was so shock at first i thought she was joking , but she never spoke to me again and i tried . if she was jealous of me how does she treat her sister slaves . how does she hold back her feeling of jealous and i know it happen.? and how does the master handle that emotionit is strong no matter who you are

mons written with respect to all

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RE: Why are you here? - 10/15/2008 7:56:33 AM   
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i dont get it, sorry. and do people actually live this way in real life??

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RE: Why are you here? - 10/15/2008 8:02:57 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: shewhoserves

i dont get it, sorry. and do people actually live this way in real life??


Only those of us able to secure tarns and sleen.

Now, go find something better to do.

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RE: Why are you here? - 10/15/2008 9:11:05 AM   
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thanks for the help, find something better to do?  rather not respond to that
quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery


quote:

ORIGINAL: shewhoserves

i dont get it, sorry. and do people actually live this way in real life??


Only those of us able to secure tarns and sleen.

Now, go find something better to do.


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RE: Why are you here? - 10/15/2008 10:46:03 AM   
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Good.

In case anyone else missed it, here's the OP:

quote:

Greetings Goreans,

I'm not all that sure we need another thread at this point but I'm a man bent on construction so here goes.

Why are we here? Not on Earth mind you and no this isn’t some deep rooted hypothetical question buried within the genetic codes of humanity. I would like us all to examine why we take our time to gather here on a Gorean “lifestyle” board, a board that's supposed to mean we actually apply this philosophy to our lives. Ohhh sure there are the replies about discovery and understanding, discussion and contemplation. But come on, we can beat this horse to death. So below I have jotted down a bit about where I've been, why I’m here and where I intend to be going, I hope it inspires progress in a forward direction and some dialogue of the same.

TYM (Sorry to single you out Alan, but you're tough and would it be so bad to dispense with the superficial ideology contained within some metaphorical name) and a few others in the not so distant past have attempted to organize gatherings. While they might pull it off, I think they might end up disappointed. I think we have to start these things within reason. Find groups that already get together or start your own personal get together. I went to a gathering in Chicago as one of my first, it wasn’t big, but there I was seated in the company of Goreans….Wow, I shared mead and then wine with a well respected couple of Goreans. One of these people sees life as a Tuchuk might and I have symbolically shared grass and earth with this person, a pledge of friendship I still value to this day. If these Goreans hadn’t moved clear the hell out to Vegas I’d still make their yearly companionship renewal.

The first gathering we had at the Lighthouse was a small ensemble of Gorean friends, again nothing big, but man has it grown and what great friendships it has spawned; it has also envoked personal accountability on some. Those of right fiber remain. We now have a gathering each year on Memorial Day at mine and Natalie’s home, Schloss Krieger and on Labor Day Bob and Liz double the population of their Ohio town with the Annual Lighthouse gathering. This is how I suggest we all build our communities, one gathering at a time. Will we have strife? Damn right we will, at least once a year Kimveri and I butt our stubborn heads together and dig in. You’ve all seen her though; she’s a credit to our community, she and her companion, Unbuilder are mitakola. I hope I spelled that correctly.

So we don’t need to bite off chunks to big to chew, we need to begin with what we can build on at first and that is ourselves and how we live each and every moment of each and every day. Now on to why I’m here. On Collarme that is.

Over the past several months I have been not as prominent on the boards; oh I’ve had my usual flurries of torrent and chuckle, but I haven’t spent as much time interacting with the CM community discussion boards as I like too. In part it has been due to the time I have spent working with my “new” girl ishy. But a big part of my time has been dedicated to self-improvement via audio and written books, as well as an attempt to foster a better understanding of the Gorean philosophies onto my sons and with my free companion.

It seems a person should always prioritize their moments in time. Surely getting things right with ones immediate family and assisting in their social, spiritual, mental as well as fiscal advancement must take a priority. I have spent some time mentoring my sons and a few of their warrior friends. It seems they might all be on their way to Afghanistan next year. By the way my youngest son has recently joined this site, but don’t you young sluts get to excited, he seems deeply enthralled with a young free woman at the moment.

Quite a bit of my time over the past while has been devoted to getting it right for myself, correcting short comings, evaluating social affiliations and what have you. I mean who are we as instructors or ambassadors of the Gorean existence if our complete existence is simply made up of delusional fancy, insubstantial cyber bytes or pretentious blasts of hot air?

Surely each of us that would intend to portray the embodiment of what it is to be Gorean should live as transparent of an existence as possible when it comes to our personal credibility within the Gorean community. I have to date and most likely will in the future have to situate myself against slanderous and malicious attacks. I don’t pretend to take the weight of all Gorean credibility upon my shoulders but I do rely upon myself to hold fast the integrity and standing of myself and my home.

My implication isn’t that we should all be the same or made to accept some dictatorial version of what it is to be Gorean; hell most of us that have been around for more than a fortnight can muster an opinion to that conclusion.

So what’s this all about you might be asking. Well, I came here to CM searching for more than hot sluts and cute butts. While it was nice to discover a few of those I came here hoping to expand my circle of friends and compatriots. I was also looking to broaden my horizons, as well as my incite. It's obvious enough a fellow wouldn't find Gor here, but to my pleasant and hopeful surprise I did find Goreans and their conversation. So I’ve been met with success on all counts. I now feel a sense of obligation to the community that has evolved here. I hope to assist in helping maintain the focus on the discussion of living as a Gorean. We have plenty of folks that would imply they are credible yet when you peek into their reality they live a façade in comparison to their proclamations. While there are others living quietly with the trees sharing intermitent jewels of fellowship.

From this day forth I challenge myself, any and all of you that embrace our chosen philosophies to live up to the mantle of your claims. Don't bend it to fit you, rather mold yourself around it and make it something greater than you found it. Use the ideals to first stabilize your personal life and then to shape the entire world in which you live. Build small Gorean networks and networks that not only hold us personally accountable, but also hold our civil organizations and governmental officials. If we truly want the philosophies we claim to hold so dear to mean more than literary fantasy, cyber drama and another pointless debate we have to nowhere we have to look to move beyond discussion and start working to spawn the vestige of our own brand of truth; the truth that would be located in the hearts and minds of Goreans.



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RE: Why are you here? - 10/15/2008 8:22:26 PM   
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hi slaves

that is a very strange greeting for me to write.  but it seems that my perspective and my life, especially as it involves Gor, has changed in the past few months.

at first i was here to find a Master, and because i loved reading the posts of those whose knowledge was so much more than mine.  i had for the longest time wanted to be a slave and never considered that perhaps i am not slave material.

but i am with a Man who is Dominant in His life but does not want, and has never wanted, a slave.  and i am content as His woman.  His submissive woman, but not in the bdsm sense of submission.  i'm not sure i can describe it.  i just know that He is the one that Dominates the relationship, but i still take care of myself and Him.  ack! i'll think more on how to describe that later.

what i have been thinking on a lot in the past few months IS why am i still here on the Gorean board?  He is not Gorean.  yes, He's got a lot of the characteristics of what someone might consider Gorean, but He does not study the philos and, therefore, is not a Gorean Man.

so where does that leave me?  it leaves me being here because, as it turns out, i wasn't here just for the Men ... i was (and am) here to learn of the philosophies, and how they work and are in folks' lives offline.  i was (and am) here because i have come to enjoy the fellowship the Goreans here share.  and i am here because i am a Free Woman ..... if my understanding of what a Free Woman is, is correct.

as soon as i finish this series i am reading (which should be in about one more week) i will begin reading the books again.  but not like the first time around, where i read the stories and liked the slaves and the MEN and the story-line of the books.  this time i wish to learn of the philosophies - and how to incorporate my life and them together.

i am here because this is where i feel most comfortable.  except it feels very very weird to not act as a slave - but i don't feel that is where i am any longer.  and first and foremost, i have to be me.

well wishes
Gemmie

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