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lisaSea -> You want an apple pie with that? (12/22/2005 5:21:49 PM)

Greetings Masters, Mistresses and slaves...

A while ago I posted a question under the title, "on the flip side", asking about women who sought out men to serve, rather then go kicking and screaming into the night. It showed me there were others, which is why I asked prior to posting this.

I was asked in a private email if it was the same for me serving Master, or any man that happened to come down the road, if the need to serve over shadowed the need for a strong man, one to "master" me. Did I feel the desire to tend the needs of any man, or just my Master? Did the man need to be of strong character to bring out that need?

It took me a bit to compose this, as I wanted to see the responses to the "flipside" question, then take some time to word it as non offensively as possible.

My own reply is that while I do get enjoyment from seeing Master and his friends happy and well fed, I have no desire to tend to the needs of weak men, or women. (my desires don't mean squat in this, as I have had to prepare meals for Free Women) Simply because I like to iron his clothes, does not mean I wish to work at a laundrymat. There still needs to be the pull of a strong man, the knees getting wobbly, the whole works, in order for me to feel the "burn". As many have written, the craving to be mastered by a strong man is still very much alive, only I think there is less kicking and screaming, lol

Yes, I have been in the company of men who had me stuttering like an idiot and blushing like a virginal schoolgirl. That is the pull of a gorean man. While I may burn to do whatever they wish, (craving to serve), put me in a room with a submissive man and the reaction is like night and day. I have NO desire to so much as look their way, let alone serve them in any capacity. So, yes, the "master" effect, (sounds like a cute name)...is a very large part of the picture.

I was told that it was "easy" for girls who know what they want and don't struggle with it. I don't think easy is the word, different, perhaps. The hurdles are still there, to a degree. To say there were never rough spots, or days when I question why I am stumbling out of bed at 4am to fetch coffee, would be a boldface lie. This is not a cakewalk, sometimes it is downright unpleasant. So no, simply because a woman knows where she wants to be, doesn't mean the rest of her days are all sunshine and lollipops.

I would love to hear from the girls who also had the desire to serve, who perhaps went quietly, however, their mastering is felt no more, or less.

As I read through several of the threads of late, I saw a difference being brought to the surface. The feeling I got, and I could be way off base, was that it was assumed those who had the deep pitted craving to serve, would serve anyone that came along. That somehow, our need to feel mastered was a little less then those who battled with it?

So, I felt the time was right to post my second half of the question.

In light of the date, if I don't get back to read or respond, I wish everyone a wonderful holiday, filled with laughter, family and friends.

Blessed be,

lisa{Sea's}




yun -> RE: You want an apple pie with that? (12/22/2005 6:45:25 PM)


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ORIGINAL: lisaSea

I would love to hear from the girls who also had the desire to serve, who perhaps went quietly, however, their mastering is felt no more, or less.

As I read through several of the threads of late, I saw a difference being brought to the surface. The feeling I got, and I could be way off base, was that it was assumed those who had the deep pitted craving to serve, would serve anyone that came along. That somehow, our need to feel mastered was a little less then those who battled with it?




greetings Masters, Mistresses and slaves..

thank you for posting this lisa, it is something that i have noticed also by some of the conversations. i am beginning to feel a bit on the outside looking in with this topic. my service comes in 2 different areas. the first is my service to Master and how he wants me to serve. this includes not only my direct service to him but if he wishes me to serve another or tend to someone at his insistence. when serving a Gorean Man or a strong Man, there is a huge heat felt inside of me. it is a sensation that fills the belly and makes me want to do more and more for him. it is that all knowing "pulling" to him that makes me serve him to the best of my abilities. but then there is that other side to my service. i was trained as a service-oriented submissive. through that service i am at anyone's beck and call that is in need of me. it may be a firm handed Man, it could be a wonderful Woman or even a slave that i look up to and respect greatly. when i am serving for the mere love of serving it is double-sided. i enjoy the offer of making someone's life easier..of doing something to please them. but it also fills my need..it excites me..it gives me a sense of accomplishment and fulfillment.

why should i merely serve someone that pulls me to them? in a sense i feel that is serving myself and my own wants/needs of being Owned and Mastered. my slavery and submission isn't a gift to be given only to some, it is who i am and what i wish to share. it feeds me. i need to give of myself..i like to tend to people in many different ways. i've served one Man..her personal servant..his maid..his cook..his fucktoy. i've served several slaves in helping them with a party or event. i've served groups before by tending to presenters at workshops, by setting up parties and being the "fetch it" girl. this is a thrill to me and i find that i do it very well and quite eagerly.

while yes, i will only ever be Owned and Mastered by a strong Man...but i will serve any that i feel i can benefit. i think Master sees the pleasures i get out of serving in different ways and finds it pleasing in me. if it were to ever interfere with his needs or wear me down physically then perhaps..but i absolutely glow when i can be of use to someone.

so to me...service is VERY important in my life..

with an allowed voice..




lisaSea -> RE: You want an apple pie with that? (12/22/2005 7:56:00 PM)

Thank you so much yun, truth be told, I was hoping you would respond!

It is such a joy to read your posts, I pray you are allowed to share your thoughts for a good deal longer!

While I am not in service such as yourself to other slaves or even women much, I found your words on your service to your owner spot on! *smiles warmly*. It doesn't sound as if you feel less mastered because you give of yourself so willingly. *winks*

I am grateful you have been given the allowed voice.

lisa{Sea's}




yun -> RE: You want an apple pie with that? (12/23/2005 12:05:48 AM)

~grins~ thank you for the wonderfully kind words lisa!

i don't bemoan someone who chooses to only serve their Owner or ones they may direct them to serve. if it works for them and that is enough to fill them up then that is perfect for them and their life! i do want to clarify something though after reading my post. i have run into soooo many people who think because i enjoy serving and i do tend to many others that i am a doormat or that i think little of myself that i will do anything that anyone wants. luckily anyone that knows me knows i am definitely not that way! i hate that sometimes someone will equate a love of service for being weak. i admit i do get stretched thin sometimes but i've learned long ago (thanks to my job!) how to handle stress and relieve it.

personally, i could never feel *less* Mastered just because of my extra service to others. in fact sometimes i feel *more* Mastered because of it. because i am allowed to serve others, because Master sees i enjoy it and i'm good at it and doesn't feel threatened by my service to someone else, it lets me know he sees my potential and i'm with someone who matches me very well. we are both confident and secure in our stations that he knows who i belong to and that it is his feet i return to for guidance and structure.

i actually just asked Master this past week if he thought i should back off on some of my service to others at the turn of the new year to allow more time for him...and his reply was that i should keep it up and actually find a way to serve at a higher level. so this was a well timed topic!

and as far as my allowed voice..i think i will be allowed to keep it for a long time on here..so don't you worry..there will always be posts from me so throw out as many topics as you want! eheheh




fyreredsub -> RE: You want an apple pie with that? (12/23/2005 1:04:59 PM)

i serve a local Master that is training me because that is what i was instructed to do by the ONE that guides me.i also have a Master that mentors me but there is also the whole distance factor and i require alot of work in reconciling my belly and my mind.i need the help for i am a strong willed wench and i have much growth that needs to be accomplished before i am complete in my slavery.
i am guided along in the process by a sister as well.
i find serving others is a big part of who i am. my work is such that i am able to give of myself to help others.i find it pleasurable in many ways and it gives me a deep satisfaction to know that i have been valuable and made a difference in someones life through my service.




Belladonna82 -> RE: You want an apple pie with that? (12/23/2005 1:44:54 PM)

SISSY!!!!! hehe

Well as for the message...i feel the urge to serve men in general...i believe men to be um...higher on the food chain.I'm not saying men are smarter then women...but normaly a man has more control of himself there fore can control me.....what can i say i am old school...and the Gorean ways fits me very well.I serve the Master i serve first thou...well Merry Christmas All

and blessed be

bella




fyreredsub -> RE: You want an apple pie with that? (12/23/2005 1:50:45 PM)

yes, i speak of you and Master[:D]




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