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RE: HOLDING A HOUSEHOLD TOGETHER - 12/25/2008 11:39:59 AM   
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ORIGINAL: CelticPride

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Sorry, but I'm still stuck on the part where it's automatically assumed that the Head of the Household is going to be a male.    
 

As Polyamory is purely a modern concept, we can't look at history for answers.


Abraham, Sarah and Hagar, but hey that's just from... oh I don't know... the Old Testament...

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RE: HOLDING A HOUSEHOLD TOGETHER - 12/25/2008 12:39:17 PM   
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What are you guys suppose to be a band of Canadian gypsys?


Yes... because that completely proves that you are superior and KoM is a "wannabe". Curse your sharp wit and razor tongue as it cuts away from us our masks to reveal us in our true, horrid nature.


Seriously, you have a lot to learn from the people you are dismissing. Considering you've never actually done this before and working purely on textbook theory that may or may not be proven wrong, I'd shut up and listen to the people who are actually making it work.

(BTW, I've seen a picture of KoM without a shirt on. If that man wants to prance around as a gypsy, I'll help paint his caravan. Gypsys are damn sexy!)

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RE: HOLDING A HOUSEHOLD TOGETHER - 12/25/2008 3:09:45 PM   
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As Polyamory is purely a modern concept, we can't look at history for answers.
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Abraham, Sarah and Hagar, but hey that's just from... oh I don't know... the Old Testament...
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I think you are confusing the concept of individuals having the free personal choice in their sexual partners, which is a modern phenomenon, with something that had to do soley with inheritance and the rights of primogeniture.

Whatever relationships practiced in ancient Judaic times, apart from the strickly monogamous, would have been that of "multiple wives" or *polygyny* (Greek _gyne_"woman, wife"). In most traditional cultures this was something only the rich could afford.

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RE: HOLDING A HOUSEHOLD TOGETHER - 12/25/2008 3:30:51 PM   
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Polyandry ----- It happened enough they made a term for it..... Seriously People LOOK IT UP.

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Athropological records say otherwise. While matrifocal (and even polyandrous) societies do exist, they constitute a small minority of the world's cultures. And while cultures very in their degree of sexual permissiveness, I know of no openly polyandrous cultures that have existed in an established fashion for a long period of time.

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RE: HOLDING A HOUSEHOLD TOGETHER - 2/17/2010 4:07:59 PM   
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I have never posted here ,but after reading all this I strongly agree with LadyPact .she seemed to have the understanding many are lacking.
we are a poly house ,but we do not own a sub at this moment .
 
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RE: HOLDING A HOUSEHOLD TOGETHER - 2/17/2010 4:18:07 PM   
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ok that didnt work ,I didnt even realized my Husband was logged into the forum.forgive me but above post was made by me.
 
question : how you set the things under neath the profile picture .cause we sure aint vanilla.lol
 
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RE: HOLDING A HOUSEHOLD TOGETHER - 2/17/2010 4:19:54 PM   
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It will change as you add more posts, everyone starts out with a 'nilla cone. Welcome to the forums by the way.

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RE: HOLDING A HOUSEHOLD TOGETHER - 2/17/2010 4:31:09 PM   
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ty camille for the welcome .getting slowly use to the forum


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RE: HOLDING A HOUSEHOLD TOGETHER - 2/24/2010 11:15:41 AM   
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What about a poly household where the Dominant is a Superior Female??? Is it only Dom/Masters who get to enjoy this type of love? I don't think so!
Being a strong powerful Dominant Female puts Me in control of My house and those who desire to learn and grow to become more feminine, sharing sisterhood with another TS and finally becoming a lesbian lover in My bed. Yes I incorporate BDSM and insist that My "girls" be pain sluts for Me. The power exchange is so dynamic that I am in DOMME-space for days from just one encounter.
I am most diligent in making sure nobody is left out, but have found it necessary to establish a pecking order - I do have an alpha, who I have asked to become My wyfe( she is a beatuiful TS and surrenders to the transition in an embrace that is very powerful).
I would like some feed back please, thoughts and ideas.

Thank you,

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RE: HOLDING A HOUSEHOLD TOGETHER - 2/24/2010 11:25:27 AM   
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There are a number of us women out here who successfully run a household--and a few of us who do it successfully in multiple D-type and multiple S-type households as well...

To me, as some of the folks here have heard before, the ONLY thing that is necessary for a successful relationship is that everyone -in- the relationship genuinely wants to be there, and is willing to do the work to keep things functioning and keep the relationship healthy. Everything else is a matter of preference.

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RE: HOLDING A HOUSEHOLD TOGETHER - 2/24/2010 11:49:04 AM   
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Very true. A strong household is hard in any type of situation. But, a poly household takes added time & effort. The Domme must keep one step ahead of the game so to speak. At one point, I only "played" at the lifestyle but when I actually was able to begin fashioning my household toward the lifestyle and the poly life... I saw a whole new world open up! The "work" was and is still very much worthwhile. And kudos to all of those who are doing just that in whatever form or fashion they so chose.

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RE: HOLDING A HOUSEHOLD TOGETHER - 2/24/2010 8:56:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Houston47man
A poly household is one of the hardest to hold together and takes an extremely Dominant male


He seems to have forgotten the part about an extra bicycle pump and vinyl patches for when one of his "submissives" springs a leak. 

No, really.  Poly doesn't generally work like this in the real world with real human beings.  Communication and foundational relationship skills are crucial in successful poly. Dominance is optional, and it doesn't really matter what gender or orientation we're talking about.  You certainly *can* have a poly family that consists of a dominant male and his submissives, but even in that case, it's not how domly-dom you are that's going to be the main factor in whether or not your relationship is stable and long term.  Other factors like building trust, honesty, communication and negotiation skills, everybody's basic compatibility and experience coping in a constructive way with potential issues and conflicts are likely to be much more important.

And mandom that is definitely not the only configuration of poly that works.  Sorry, but male dominance is just one of many options, not a requirement to do successful poly.  If you honestly believe otherwise, you're either ignorant or an ass. 


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RE: HOLDING A HOUSEHOLD TOGETHER - 2/24/2010 9:13:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Houston47man
This is what makes the world go round and it is my opinion from observing two poly households that the reason there was unrest was because the Dom or Domme was not in charge of certain aspects of the households.


Generally speaking, that's not what makes things go south.  Poly is a team effort by nature, and any single player on the team regardless of their role can either make or break the play. 

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I agree with many of you that it is a TEAM EFFORT and for success of the household that idea must be at the forefront.  However, it is the Dom or Dommes (Lady Pact)  responsibility to set rules, regulations, and set structure.


Hey, at least you get the team effort concept.  If the poly household in question is BDSM oriented at all, that *may* work.  Or it may not.  Chances are actually pretty good that it may not.  If I tried to micromanage my boys' relationship, I don't think the end result would be nearly as stable as if it evolved naturally between them.  I do let them know that I always expect honesty and courtesy and respect in the family, and might help to smooth things over or make suggestions now and then.  But being overly controlling of how other people in my family dynamic relate socially is asking for trouble, and has the potential of disrupting or stunting any natural and more stable relationship they might otherwise form.

I wouldn't be with either of them in the first place if they weren't the kind of men who could be trusted to be decent to one another, reasonably unselfish and considerate, constructive in how they relate, and fully invested in maintaining the health and longevity of our three-way relationship.  In short, my adult partners are adults, and while I am unquestionably the dominant, I'm not foolish enough to wreck a good family dynamic by treating them as if they were not adults.

My primary owns a motorbike.  I own him.  This does not make me qualified to drive his motorbike, and I would be a damn fool to try.  Likewise, he needs to manage his own social relationships, including those within my poly family.  I can't (or more to the point, shouldn't) manage those for him.  I'm not qualified to do that any more than I'm qualified to drive his motorbike.  Being a dominant doesn't instantly give me the ability to operate those things, even if technically I do have the right.  I can tell him which direction he must drive in, and what the end goal must be, but he needs to do his own driving.  If I do it for him, we all risk derailing.  A much better job gets done if we can all be adults and work on practicing good, ethical, stable poly together.


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I am just starting a household and we will all share in the work and profits from our investments in real estate and restaurants.  My motto...we all work together for the betterment of the group or we die.....Its from the Seringehty Plains....if you notice animals work in packs to win and stay alive....Best wishes to all for a very happy holiday season....Master Ian.


It's "Serengeti", and the potential for conflicts and issues gets multiplied exponentially when you're trying to run a business with employees AND a poly household at the same time, and it's the same people.  Just a heads up there.


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RE: HOLDING A HOUSEHOLD TOGETHER - 2/24/2010 10:19:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Houston47man

A poly household is one of the hardest to hold together and takes an extremely Dominant male who has the ability to communicate, has passion for the group, and has compassion to hold it together.  There must be a leader and he must lead...and thwart all trivial and petty differences from the group.  If he allows continual deterioration of attitude and pettyness then it will not work.  The Dom must also take care of everyones mental, soul and body needs within the group..

Has anyone read the opening statement  and envisioned Houston47man's possible household?
I did it was like this: Run down man zipping around checking in  on folks every two seconds two prevent pettiness. Eventually said folks would feel aggravated and isolated because of the constant micromanagement causing them and Houston47man to go insane and/or use drastic measures to escape the situation.

Someone could probably write a bestselling comedy/tragedy with that plot.



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RE: HOLDING A HOUSEHOLD TOGETHER - 3/12/2010 3:14:35 PM   
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Hi! So my SO has had a few poly households and doesn't think that they can really work.  I told him it is a matter of finding a mature couple to go with it.  A lot of times when people are looking for a poly household they are just looking for a girl to playwith a boy to play with or vice versa.  What I have always strived for and wanted.  Was  A poly household where the two couples get along to raise a family together.  I have a child and I can't always play with her because of school and work.  And A babysitter is hard to afford.  And He isn't always in the frame of mind to watch her.  SO what is better then a household where there are TWO other people available.  I am not looking for slaves or owners or anything.  Friends good friends.  Oh and yes BTW it doesn't take a good DOM to control the house.  It takes a good respect of each other and a communicable family.

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