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RE: "attracting" potential Owners - 12/28/2005 2:18:48 PM

MasterFerdinand

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Michael is right

I met a "kajira" the other night, thinking she may do well in my household.

She was not only not fit for my House, she wasn't in the least a submissive type, and expressed dissatisfaction with being "kajira".
Also I might add, this woman was married, her husband had no idea of the lifestyle she is pursuing, she's not planning on leaving him, just being dishonest in her relationship, and asking some "Master" to be only part time, and no marks please.

After about an hour I told her she shouldn't even be in "our" lifestyle at all. You can tell a submissive woman instantly, and a natural slave almost instantly. Also, there's a level of commitment involved, especially in r/t that some aren't willing, or capable of reaching.

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RE: "attracting" potential Owners - 12/28/2005 5:32:00 PM

nephandi

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Well submissives comes in all shapes and sices, some only wish or have only operturnity to be submissive part time, they are still submissive but are not slaves, and they realy dont fitt all that well in the Gorean lifestyle, well i hope you find somone that do fit your household Sir, i truly do.

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RE: "attracting" potential Owners - 12/28/2005 7:36:18 PM

bottominwa

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This girl certainly falls under this category and has said it a million times on collarme. Not only is she not naturally submissive by psychology...it truly takes a particular type of man...not physical Dominance..but characer Dominance to get her to submit at all.

What does that make her?

Eh, who knows.

But she thinks, were Master here...and had the chance...He would strongly disagree that she wasn't worth making submit. :)

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RE: "attracting" potential Owners - 12/30/2005 2:16:12 AM

Malkinius

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Nosathro

greetings

Goreans believed that is was a natural state for a woman to be submissive to a man. As a member of the Caste of Slavers..well...it starts with a Voyage of Acquisition.

I wish you well

Nosathro

Greetings Nosathro....

That is only for those who play at Gor and Gorean, not live it here on Earth.

To the rest reading this....

The real answer is that it starts with a woman wanting to serve, deeply and completely, and looking for a Master whom she can serve. Yes, it does include portraying herself as she wishes to become. There are just too many would be slaves out there to bother trying to convert someone who doesn't want to be a slave. This is not the planet Gor. This is not forced slavery. This is a way that people can live their lives. Very very few people at that.

If you wish to be a slave, decide what you want in a Master and what you are willing to accept. The real man will be somewhere between those two. Look deep into who and what they are. If someone seems wrong or fake, keep looking. The problem is, the real Goreans usually already have a slave or two or they don't have any and don't want one. Yes, many Goreans do not want to own a slave. Being Gorean is not about slave ownership. It is about how you live your life. Slaves are just an enjoyable perk of being the type of men the real Goreans often are.

Also, be honest and truthful about yourself. Nothing turns a would be Master off faster than a girl who lies about herself. Even if you don't think something is good, honesty is always best. I would rather work with a slave who has some bad things in her past than one who lies about her past.

Be well all....

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RE: "attracting" potential Owners - 12/30/2005 5:33:36 PM

SirDarkside357

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Personally, weither or not a slave is or acts submissive enough means nothing to me, if i want her, i want her, and will do my best to have her.......my LoveSlave is and was a very independent person, she wasn't seen by many as submissive, a Master will usually bring out the slave in the women he gets to know, as did i with her.

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RE: "attracting" potential Owners - 1/31/2006 4:44:02 AM

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the above statement is really true. this slave was independent and not quite a submissive.. in fact this slave was more on the dominant side, until this slave was found by Master Trevor. He turned this slave into a dependent slave -- not in a bad way but in a good way. this slave's Master turned her into something that would give her life to serve and seek for Master Trevor's security. this slave was truly transformed by Master Trevor in terms of having a relationship. Master Trevor has and will teach this slave a whole lot more. =)

Master Trevor's slave,

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RE: "attracting" potential Owners - 1/31/2006 10:59:28 AM

IronBear

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There is brattiness and there is brattiness. The difference is intangible but discernable for the individual who like this type of girl. So what if I have to whip her daily and keep her chained for long periods of time. If the girl has fire in her belly and is not a "Yes Master, No Master, Three bags full Master, what ever you say Master" I will look at her once and then we'll see if she is worthy of a second look. I want a girl who will serve me with dignity and pride in her service and collar. Any girl of mine is likely to offend some Gorean Free if she bears her teeth/fangs when a strange Male comes within an arms reach of my... That is the way I'll train her to be. Give me a "Barbarian girl" who has to be taimed and brought to her knees in submission and I'll have a girl with fierce loyalty and protective qualities towards her Master. There are a few here who I strongly suspect have those qualities.

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RE: "attracting" potential Owners - 1/31/2006 12:24:13 PM

MasterABD

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Many, if not most, tend to disagree with me on this. However I have never had a slave who started out in tihs lifestyle. I have introduced bdsm and gor to every slave I have owned. Therefore a girl does not need to "act submissive" to be collared. As such I agree 100% with the quote you are posting. A master makes a slave submit, a master makes a submissive a slave, any women has the potential to be a slave, no qualities are required for this to happen. The only thing required is a master to teach the slave.

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RE: "attracting" potential Owners - 1/31/2006 2:01:50 PM

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this one still has trouble with her mouth and free thinking, but Master has mercy on her and continues to find value... altho much training is needed still

always something new is found that needs changing to suit Master as time goes on....

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RE: "attracting" potential Owners - 1/31/2006 4:20:24 PM

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Personally, weither or not a slave is or acts submissive enough means nothing to me, if i want her, i want her, and will do my best to have her

This is the kind of Gorean Master Ive always been around.
Course I am told this is why I am such a Mean Arrogant
Strong Feirce Free Woman. Who am I to argue ? ~sucks
thru My teeth~

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RE: "attracting" potential Owners - 2/1/2006 2:16:28 PM

taliaTW

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Greetings Masters, Mistresses, and slaves,

I read this somewhere, and I can’t remember where, but this was said so eloquently and honestly that I have to pass it on. If I figure out where I read it, I will certain edit this post with the author’s name.

She said something to the effect that submission is a reaction to dominance or mastery. She felt, like I do, that submission is not something that can be given, it has to be taken or invoked. That said, I don’t feel like I can be submissive all the time or even to everyone calling themselves a Master. It would just be an act on my part. However, when I feel dominance or superiority directed at me from a man, I will usually react submissively to it, sometimes instinctually.

I can't honestly feel like I am submitting unless my will is bent. How can it be submission if I want to do everything He asks of me?

I do have a question though. On Gor, most slaves initially behaved majorily out of fear? There were very painful reminders delivered to their backsides of how much they really wanted to be found pleasing. Maybe a slave will generally not want to upset her Master because she will be punished, and a brat will generally try to upset her Master because she will be beaten. I think it's all in the girl’s goals.

I think my Master would probably lump me into Master IB’s “barbarian” category. But I know He doesn’t tolerate “brattiness” from me or any other girl calling herself a slave.

talia

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RE: "attracting" potential Owners - 2/6/2006 3:04:18 AM

mons

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what makes a gorean male choose his slave what are the things you look for? this is a true group i enjoy asking question too