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This Girl Has A Problem - 12/13/2008 7:26:30 AM

apet2serveu

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This girl has a problem and would like some help with it please. First of all this girl is serveing her Master part time.I am a slave to my Master and his friend to. But now there are problems that are starting to come up.And not sure how to handle them.So i have some questions that this girl would like to ask please. So i can be a better slave to my Master.

1. Is it right for a Master to try and make his slave jealous? By him telling her that he flirts with of girls all the time and tells his slave. That his slave isn't his type. I have no problem with my Master being with other females. But what hurts is that he rubs it in her face all the time.

2. Should a Master tell his slave that she could alway speak her peace? And if she does and he don't like it. He tells her she has an attitude. And then he says that in this relationship that it is going to be more M / s then Master and friend.That he is takeing away the friendship.

I hope to find some answers so i can be a better slave to him.

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RE: This Girl Has A Problem - 12/13/2008 8:11:46 AM

amelliagrace

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1. If your attitude is offensive to your Master when answering his questions and expressing your feelings, then learn to say it differently.

2. Only your Master can tell you how to be a better slave to him.

3. Whining here about your Master is unseemly, inappropriate, displeasing, and far from lovely.

4. Either it is worth it to you to stick with it, or it isn't.

Grace

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RE: This Girl Has A Problem - 12/13/2008 8:13:30 AM

Leonidas

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Go find yourself a nice quiet corner, sit in it, and reflect for a while on what submitting to a collar actually means.

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RE: This Girl Has A Problem - 12/13/2008 10:56:17 AM

MRandme

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Greetings to the Free
and to the property,

i cannot resist replying to this... perhaps because i lack the energy to anything more constructive with my time.

1. Is it right for a Master to try and make his slave jealous? It is right for Him to do anything that does not leave permanent lasting harm. That's why He is the Master. He cannot, though, make you jealous. Only you can do that. Does the fact that He looks at other girls and flirts with them mean that you are not His? If you cannot handle the fact that He does that, then perhaps He is not the right Master for you.

2 Should a Master tell his slave that she could alway speak her peace? Again, He is the Master, His choice. How you speak your piece is yours. i may tell my Master my feelings about anything.... so long as it is done in a respectful manner, from the knees.

By the way, in my opinion, third person speech can be very annoying unless done well (visit the slaves thread for examples on doing it right) but if you are going to do it, stick with third, or stick with first... don't mix them, especially in the same sentence.

As the Free above have suggested, the answers to your questions can only really be found inside yourself. Not here, not by making the Man you call Master look bad to the world at large.

wishing you well,

g

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RE: This Girl Has A Problem - 12/13/2008 11:10:57 AM

Aswad

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When I lack the energy to do something more constructive, I generally try to avoid doing something counterproductive. Perhaps it would be good to work on the discipline involved in doing so, or notifying someone else that a problem with discipline exists, such that you are better able to resist posting in public what would better have been set down in a PM. The advice on considering what a collar means may be worth reiterating, as it is a step a lot of girls seem to forget...

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From then on I knew: God doesn't make the world this way.
We do." -- Rorschack, Watchmen.

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RE: This Girl Has A Problem - 12/13/2008 11:23:25 AM

MRandme

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Greetings, Aswad, Sir,

Thank You for the correction.

Respectfully,

g

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And thus i conclude with a wish you go well,
Sweet be your dreams, may your happiness swell,
I'll leave you here, for my journey begins
i've gone to be with Him again...

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RE: This Girl Has A Problem - 12/13/2008 12:00:15 PM

Nemesys

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Leonidas

Go find yourself a nice quiet corner, sit in it, and reflect for a while on what submitting to a collar actually means.

Good advice, but one of the things that a girl can reflect upon and at least hope for as a result of that submission, at least by Gorean standards, is excellent mastery.

If you truly don't believe that your Master is a man who is capable of ever providing it, now - not later - is the time to do something about it.

If you do think it's possible, then it's time to devote yourself 100% to being worthy of it.

There's no middle ground.... it's one or the other. It is quite possible that it is your attitude is causing you to react to things your Master is saying, and he may well be saying those things purposefully as a basis for helping you understand a few things you may not know about yourself. If you can learn those things, it's possible to change them, if your attitude will allow you to.

But don't hold out on the false hope that he's going to change his attitude... or even worse, that you will do it for him.

I wish you well, N

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RE: This Girl Has A Problem - 12/14/2008 4:36:58 PM

Saffleur

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Leonidas

Go find yourself a nice quiet corner, sit in it, and reflect for a while on what submitting to a collar actually means.

Touche, Such a simple answer for such a simple problem.

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RE: This Girl Has A Problem - 12/23/2008 8:00:50 AM

BeautifulExcuse

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Sweetest heart....let's be real here for a minute. This is REAL LIFE we're talking about.

You chose to be a slave. You can 'un-choose' to be a slave.

You agreed to let him be your master. You can 'un-agree' the same thing.

A 'Master' isn't a 'Master' without a slave....so if you don't like the way you're being treated, pack your little bag and start walking, baby, cuz there are MUCH better fish in the sea!

Sounds to me like his ego has got the better of him and he's forgotten that he's absolutely nothing without a slave. Slaves choose the masters, not the other way around!

Be at ease, sweet one. All the power is in YOUR hands, not a tosser's like his!

< Message edited by BeautifulExcuse -- 12/23/2008 8:03:47 AM >

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RE: This Girl Has A Problem - 12/23/2008 8:08:15 AM

ElizabethAnne

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Hello there,

It might be worth mentioning, the original op's profile no longer exists.

Be well,

ElizabethAnne

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RE: This Girl Has A Problem - 12/23/2008 8:13:57 AM

amelliagrace

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quote:

ORIGINAL: BeautifulExcuse

Sweetest heart....let's be real here for a minute. This is REAL LIFE we're talking about.

You chose to be a slave. You can 'un-choose' to be a slave.

You agreed to let him be your master. You can 'un-agree' the same thing.

A 'Master' isn't a 'Master' without a slave....so if you don't like the way you're being treated, pack your little bag and start walking, baby, cuz there are MUCH better fish in the sea!

Sounds to me like his ego has got the better of him and he's forgotten that he's absolutely nothing without a slave. Slaves choose the masters, not the other way around!

Be at ease, sweet one. All the power is in YOUR hands, not a tosser's like his!

You've just provided my laugh for the day. I suppose I should thank you for that.

In the BDSM world, power does indeed rest with the submissive. "Slave" is a bit different, if the "slave" is truly mastered. Step over into Gorean life, and it is an entirely differnt kettle of fish. A Man need not have a slave to be a Master in the Gorean sense - he must truly be Master of himself. Who and what he is is in no way contingent upon any female. The slave of a Gorean man is only able to walk away if she isn't being adequately mastered. If she is, then it doesn't matter so much whether he is a total ass or an utter saint, a paragon of virtue or a cad. She's owned, she's his, and truly isn't capable of mustering the power to walk.

Slaves choose the masters......yes and no. But then, I wouldn't expect you to actually comprehend that.

Grace

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RE: This Girl Has A Problem - 12/23/2008 8:52:18 AM

OrionTheWolf

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So if it is something that can be turned off and on, is it really what a person is or are they playing a role?

quote:

ORIGINAL: BeautifulExcuse

Sweetest heart....let's be real here for a minute. This is REAL LIFE we're talking about.

You chose to be a slave. You can 'un-choose' to be a slave.

You agreed to let him be your master. You can 'un-agree' the same thing.

A 'Master' isn't a 'Master' without a slave....so if you don't like the way you're being treated, pack your little bag and start walking, baby, cuz there are MUCH better fish in the sea!

Did you notice the section you are posting in? Maybe you should check on what Master means to Goreans. If you will notice in this section, no one signs their post with "MasterUberDom" or anything of the sort.

quote:

Sounds to me like his ego has got the better of him and he's forgotten that he's absolutely nothing without a slave. Slaves choose the masters, not the other way around!

Be at ease, sweet one. All the power is in YOUR hands, not a tosser's like his!

Maybe in your world of the power resting in the hands of the slave/submissive. I am a Man, with or without a slave. I do not need a slave to validate me or my beliefs. Slaves are perks, and if they want to have the ego serving attitude you show, then they can get out and stay out, or suffer my wrath.

Orion

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RE: This Girl Has A Problem - 12/23/2008 9:05:46 AM

popppy

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greetings Masters,
greetings Mistresses,
greetings kajirae,

it seems to me that the total point has been missed. a kajira's Master can't make her jealous only the girl can make herself jealous. if you have trust in your Master knowing it is his steel around your neck then what is there to be jealous about.

i think the girl needs to learn what it means to be kajira, to be slave doesn not mean the collar is velcro. serious thought and time needs to be had before begging his collar. it is my thought the collar has all the meaning and more then that of a wedding ring.

also on side note, i am getting so sick of fake Masters saying they know gor and in thier email call me a "dogf*** cu** whore bi***" then say that they are gorean giving me thier number writing if i dont call them then i am not slave. where have all the real gorean Masters gone? (smiles)

well wishes Masters,
well wishes Mistresses,
well wishes kajirae,

poppy

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RE: This Girl Has A Problem - 1/1/2009 7:15:24 PM

Aswad

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To greener pastures, generally.

Health,
al-Aswad.

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From then on I knew: God doesn't make the world this way.
We do." -- Rorschack, Watchmen.

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RE: This Girl Has A Problem - 1/1/2009 7:46:42 PM

Maahsatti

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Hiya Aswad,

Did'nt this topic start last summer? I find myself scratching my head as to who started her up again....lol

Much care,
Babs

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RE: This Girl Has A Problem - 1/4/2009 2:58:47 AM

powerplaying

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Tal!

quote:

ORIGINAL: apet2serveu
That his slave isn't his type.

Does this refer to your physical features like breast size?
Men are simple here: There is no point in owning a girl with a body you don't like. I'd take a girl with flat breasts, but not with big breasts for example.
If your body isn't his type, just ask him to give you to someone else. That's what a girl on Gor what do. Get on the auction block and be selected by someone who is delighted by your features!

Best wishes

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RE: This Girl Has A Problem - 1/4/2009 10:54:31 PM

FrankAr

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quote:

ORIGINAL: powerplaying

Tal!

quote:

ORIGINAL: apet2serveu
That his slave isn't his type.

Does this refer to your physical features like breast size?
Men are simple here: There is no point in owning a girl with a body you don't like. I'd take a girl with flat breasts, but not with big breasts for example.
If your body isn't his type, just ask him to give you to someone else. That's what a girl on Gor what do. Get on the auction block and be selected by someone who is delighted by your features!

Best wishes

Tal Power, or is that just playing ?

I think you should speak for yourself when you give judgements of others............Men are simple here.........I am not. If I can see the slave has worth, then I will mould her to my liking. I will have her on a diet, exercise regime to tone up. If she can cook fantastic but is average to below in oral, well she can always get better in her oral. If her tits are around 44-46 in size, then operate. If you do not like her body, that does not mean her other characteristics would be poor as well.

Be well.

Frank Ar.

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RE: This Girl Has A Problem - 1/5/2009 4:04:16 PM

opposingtwilight

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Edited because it did not come off the way I had intended.

< Message edited by opposingtwilight -- 1/5/2009 4:22:05 PM >

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