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RE: ok do you celebrate chistmas - 12/26/2009 12:59:38 PM   
Hiskajirah


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Greetings Master's
Greetings Mistresses
Greetings slaves

We celebrate Christmas, but not to the extent of going to Church. (every few years, we might). We do give gifts to our children. I made a Turkey dinner similar to that of Thanksgiving. It was just the Master, the children, son in law, grandson and myself. They opened a single gift Christmas eve and in the morning we sat around the fire and opened the rest.

Everyone was happy.

Am hoping all of you were too.

Sincerely,
~twinkle


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RE: ok do you celebrate chistmas - 12/27/2009 6:46:24 AM   
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Greetings calamitysandra,

Thanks for clearing up my fuzzy memory :) It was definitely Three Kings I was thinking of. I don't remember the other one in November- but I was in high school at the time and was probably out with friends. I also remember though, that the kindergarteners were sent to school with cones of candy on the first day- lol, poor teachers! I love the picture of Three Kings you posted! Fasching is another holiday we don't have here... closest is Mardi Gras down south.

I didn't know Koln and Bayern were sworn enemies, lol. I used to also live in Frankfurt- but I was very small at the time- in kindergarten.

well wishes,

anna

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RE: ok do you celebrate Christmas - 12/27/2009 9:22:16 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Elisabella

Hi Aswad! Merry Christmas!


Thanks. Christmas isn't my season, though. I spend it alone for a reason.

quote:

Anyway I know that there's a bit of a backlash against diamonds, mostly because of the huge marketing hype surrounding them that increases the price, but I have a weak spot for gemstones and jewellery in general.


Gemstones, certainly. Diamonds just aren't my thing. That buying them supports state sanctioned organized crime is just another nail in the coffin. I think they make great heat conductors, cutting discs and so forth, but I don't particularly like them as gem stones. Incidentally, they're a very common stone, with stockpiles to last centuries. Talking about price is kind of moot, as it's set by the cartel and the efficiency of their propaganda. It's a testament to human pack behavior and susceptibility to manipulation that natural diamonds have any real value at all.

That aside, there hasn't been a backlash here. They just aren't traditional, s'all. If you're wearing a diamond ring in a bar here, someone will check you out. Wear a plain gold band, and they'll figure you're spoken for. It's on its way in, along with the rest of the cultural elements exported from the US, but so far hasn't gained very much ground.

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there was a great part about how Goreans hated falsehood and they were appalled by the thought of wearing fake gemstones. That's how I feel...I think CZ is a fine stone for costume jewellery but if you're wearing a CZ to pass it off as a diamond I'll only say it's nice to be polite if I don't feel like getting into a discussion over it. Same with gold-plated jewellery, moissanite-as-fake-diamond, and lab created stones. I admit I've been tempted with the lab created stones but I just can not let myself buy one. I'll take pale sapphires and dark sapphires over a bright blue lab created sapphire.


I'll have to agree with regard to imitation gemstones. Not so much with regard to synthetics, which stand as a testament to human engineering being able to produce real stones that are purer than those created by nature, without excavating large land masses in order to do so. I know, I know, it's not love unless some ten year old lost a finger digging it out of a cave in the middle of a war zone somewhere. Still, I happen to think synthetics are cool, so long as they're not made as imitations.

Incidentally, a lab created sapphire is clear, not blue. And both clear sapphire and clear ruby are available up to a size of 10mmØ for virtually nothing, since they are actually created for an entirely different use than jewelry. Since I rather fancy the 694nm fluorescence of pure ruby, I'm inclined to think that's rather neat. Good luck getting a jeweler to set such a stone in anything, though. They're likely to lose their licence to sell diamonds and the like if they do that.

As was noted in the thread on emulating culture, vs imitating culture, there's a difference between pretending to be something one is not, and actually being something, whether something known or something new. If I pick up a pure ruby that's meant for use in telecommunications, drill it and set it in an earring, that's a bit different from picking up a ruby simulant or reconstituted ruby that's been made to be passed off as a natural stone, as far as I'm concerned. Consider it similar to bead jewelry, if you like. In any case, whether other people agree or not, isn't particularly important. It looks great, and isn't trying to be anything other than what it is: optical grade Cr:Al2O3 beads.

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al-Aswad.


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RE: ok do you celebrate Christmas - 12/27/2009 8:28:30 PM   
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The re-tasking of tech "synthetic" minerals sounds interesting.  I wonder if there is a cheap supplier for large microwave assisted CVD diamonds yet.

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RE: ok do you celebrate Christmas - 12/27/2009 11:03:12 PM   
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Short answer: not as far as I know. Diamond is still priced by the carat, unless it's for abrasive use, whereas ruby runs $30/ea at 6mmØ from EIO.

Some years back, I seem to recall Wired running a story noting $5/ct for synthetic diamond. Knowing how those figures tend to work out, you're still probably looking at a minimum order cost of at least four digits. If that range is fine by you, I would call Schott customer service and ask about specialty materials. On the other hand, if you can find a Chinese supplier (they still work with non-OEMs, and know what customer service means, unlike most US and EU companies of similar size), I would expect to see three to four digit prices quoted for a few cubic millimeters, custom cut and polished, uncoated, based on a back of toilet paper divination attempt.

'course, I've also been surprised both ways when inquiring about such things, so...

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RE: ok do you celebrate Christmas - 12/29/2009 2:52:37 PM   
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Pardon the late reply. I do celebrate Christmas to the extent of decorating the house and putting up a tree, giving and receiving of gifts. Thanksgiving, I eat with family and friends and thankful of what I have. How ever I do not like the holiday in itself. To celebrate a bunch of sadist murders who raped, pillaged, tortured and killed in the name of Jesus Christ, then thanked their God for the new world.... There are no words to describe how it makes me feel. They should have called the Holiday ThanksTaking. As for the Gorean Holidays, I do my best to celebrate them to the best of my knowledge.

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RE: ok do you celebrate Christmas - 12/29/2009 3:17:59 PM   
Aswad


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That's a sweet perspective on the season. It entirely misses what is currently being celebrated, but hey... 'tis the season, right? And when did a culture ever thrive without its fair share of warfare, sport and spoils? Would you consider the Saxon campaigns to be contrary to Gorean thought? The Roman conquest of ... well ... whatever they could get their hands on? The Visigoths? Mongols? Various Native American tribes? Seems most of these have been described at one point or another in the series. What holiday isn't in some way associated with bloodshed?

Now, granted, Christians weren't half bad at the whole rape, pillage and loot thing, the primary difference being they managed to hold on to much of what they took. Still, their holidays persist because of the area we live in, and the fact that those seasons have been changed to mean something other than what they started out as. Some dude in a blood drenched cape isn't what people think of when you say Santa Claus, for the most part. We're "civilized" now, meaning (cf. Rome, Greece, etc.) on the top of a steep downward slope, but presently without momentum; and, of course, meaning we don't admit to glorifying violence and such. Can't have a major retailday be violent...

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