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ORIGINAL: xBullxFor you see I believe the vast majority of females are best suited to be held or partnered with as free companions, most want to have babies and be mommies and snuggle and have opinions and strive to be their own person, much like a Gorean would expect a free person to behave. I also believe that most men in their interpersonal relationships seek the free companion type, a Gorean oriented man will want a rather submissive female, but all the same I believe it is most often the free companion he seeks, a partner and trusted confidant. One of the things that always annoyed me about Norman's books was how repetitive he tended to be. He would repeat the same concept over and over and over, basically bashing you in the head with it, throughout the books. It would get to the point where I would start skimming past those paragraph long sentences and then I would have to forcibly drag myself back to them and read them again. I'd like to think he did it for a reason.. and not just because he could be a painfully bad writer at times. After all, in Cognitive Paradox he was not nearly as repetitive. Core beliefs tended to be repeated over and over.. where the the fantasy aspects were not as often repeated. One of those core concepts is that any woman *could* be a slave.. for the right man. And yes, that perhaps she should be one. While his fantasy world had more Free women than slaves.. the repeated statements showed a secondary belief at work. Normally I leave Gorean quotes out of my posts. After all, we've all read them. However, since I often get asked for proof.. I thought I'd provide them this time. Goreans, in their simplistic fashion, often contend, categorically, that man is naturally free and woman is naturally slave. But even for them the issues are far more complex than these simple formulations would suggest. For example, there is no higher person, nor one more respected, than the Gorean free woman. Goreans do believe, however, that every woman has a natural master or set of masters, with respect to whom she could not help but be a complete and passionate slave girl.
Hunters of Gor - Page 311 It is a common observation, even on Earth, that one man's petulant and frigid wife is another man's, to be sure, a different sort of man's, passionate, begging, obedient slave.
Magicians of Gor - Page 43 Every woman in her heart wants to wear the chains of a man.
Priest-Kings of Gor, p.204
The institution of freedom for women, I decided, as many Goreans believed, was a mistake.
Nomads of Gor, p.286
There are dozens of others, of course. I'm sure most people have seen them pop up in all kinds of discussions before. While there were plenty of Free women in the books they didn't tend to stay that way.. not most of them. Yes, they were necessary to the species.. but for all Norman's talk of the "lofty Free woman".. he seemed to go out of his way to show Free women in another light.
Of course, you are right that most of us from the softer perfumed side of the species want love.. and want to be held.. and want to be valued even, perhaps, for our brains as well as anything else. None of that really precludes slavery, though. Being intellegent was never really seen as a draw back. "One of the pleasant things about owning a slave," I said, "is the opportunity to converse with her, listen to her, to hear her express herself, her feelings and ideas. One can learn much from a slave. Many slaves, like yourself, are highly intelligent. They can express themselves articulately, clearly, trenchantly and lyrically. It is a great pleasure to talk with them."
Beasts of Gor - Page 203 Goreans, as the men of Earth commonly do not, celebrate quickness of mind and alertness in a girl.
Assassin of Gor - Page 125 And being held, on occasion, doesn't seem to be seen as a bad thing, either. "May I surmise from this," she asked, "as I know little of slavery, and am new to the condition, that there can be tenderness and kindness for a slave?"
"There can be tenderness and kindness for a slave," I said.
. . .
"Can masters and slaves be friends?" she asked.
"Yes," I said.
. . .
"Do masters ever love their slaves?" she asked.
"Often," I said.
Blood Brothers of Gor - Pages 101 and 113 A slave girl is a delight to a man; she is extremely prized and precious; that the day of her acquisition should be celebrated each month with special ceremonies and rites is not surprising. These numerous anniversaries are deliciously celebrated, as they may be with a girl who is only a slave, and seldom forgotten; should such an anniversary be forgotten, should it be such that it is commonly celebrated, the girl redoubles her efforts to please, fearing she is to be soon sold.
Slave Girl of Gor - Page 66
"Even the gentlest and kindest of masters has absolute power over the slave. She is no less owned by him than she would be by the cruelest brute on Gor." Renegades of Gor; p. 359 We are what we are. I do wonder, though.. if the reason so many men find companions instead of slaves is because that's what *they* want.. not necessarily what the woman wants. Women can always conform to expectations.. slaves more so than some others. We are remarkably capable of being what a man wants..... if we want to be. Let those who can climb mountains climb them; let those who cannot climb them console themselves with denying their existence.
Rogue of Gor - Page 19
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