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New to Online controling.. - 2/6/2009 11:33:14 PM   
MasterArywen


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Status: offline 		Though I have had many in my life that I have trained, it has always been one on one, face to face. I have a slave that wants real ownership, but for the time being other than when we can met it is done over the phone and now and then online. The problem I am having is I am not there, and the fact that she has a older son late teens as well, so I am not sure how to go about this from a distance.

Are there website, advice, any information that could assit Me with this until something could be worked out were we are on a more one on on arrangement. Tell her to kneel, and seeing her do it is not the same in my eyes, and where my trouble is to give an example.

Arywen
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RE: New to Online controling.. - 2/7/2009 12:25:21 AM   
sravaka


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Status: offline 		Since i appear to be the only person on the planet who is up....

Why do you think this is the appropriate place to post a query about online control?  I'm inclined to think you've missed the mark, widely.  (though I am no expert.)

And capitalizing non-nominative first person pronouns in conjunction with such a query (if ever)?  Yuck.  Just..... yuck.




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RE: New to Online controling.. - 2/7/2009 1:15:11 AM   
AnaxAndron


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quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterArywen

Though I have had many in my life that I have trained, it has always been one on one, face to face. I have a slave that wants real ownership, but for the time being other than when we can met it is done over the phone and now and then online. The problem I am having is I am not there, and the fact that she has a older son late teens as well, so I am not sure how to go about this from a distance.

Are there website, advice, any information that could assit Me with this until something could be worked out were we are on a more one on on arrangement. Tell her to kneel, and seeing her do it is not the same in my eyes, and where my trouble is to give an example.

Arywen


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RE: New to Online controling.. - 2/7/2009 1:33:11 AM   
Lynnxz


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ORIGINAL: sravaka

Since i appear to be the only person on the planet who is up....

Why do you think this is the appropriate place to post a query about online control?  I'm inclined to think you've missed the mark, widely.  (though I am no expert.)

And capitalizing non-nominative first person pronouns in conjunction with such a query (if ever)?  Yuck.  Just..... yuck.





I would guess that the first place to ask about online domination would be online. O.o


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RE: New to Online controling.. - 2/7/2009 1:45:27 AM   
sravaka


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that's why i normally keep my mouth shut... and will stick more firmly to doing so henceforward.


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RE: New to Online controling.. - 2/7/2009 2:03:52 AM   
allyC


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Status: offline 		Greetings, Master Arywen. While I cannot give you any advice from the perspective of the one on the dominant end, I can offer something... When I first met my owner, I was 2,000 miles away and I learned over that time that mastery and enslavement are something that are most cultivated in the mind.  While he could not see me kneel or look at the expression on my face, he had access to my mind and through endless discussions, interaction, and getting to know each other, he was consistantly able to keep the upper hand through mastery of my mind.  My body of course was involved but it was through his thorough and intensive exploration of my psyche that the most powerful bonds were formed. It is difficult.  I think it would be extremely difficult without the time you spend on the phone with her.  It can be downright frustrating at times and through all of the time we spent apart, I found myself aching for the tangible aspects of his dominance, however, I learned that all good things come to those who are patient and who perservere. I wish you the very best of luck, Master. Well wishes to you, Cavalier's ally

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RE: New to Online controling.. - 2/7/2009 5:25:56 AM   
JarlOlaf


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Status: offline 		Personally, I use the Craftsman Mind Control-O-Matic Helmet 2150.  That lets me control slaves at great distance.  The Little Tykes Orb of all seeing is useful as well....

I need a lot more coffee

Olaf

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RE: New to Online controling.. - 2/7/2009 5:27:41 AM   
Maahsatti


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I learned over that time that mastery and enslavement are something that are most cultivated in the mind. While he could not see me kneel or look at the expression on my face, he had access to my mind and through endless discussions, interaction, and getting to know each other, he was consistantly able to keep the upper hand through mastery of my mind. My body of course was involved but it was through his thorough and intensive exploration of my psyche that the most powerful bonds were formed.


Greetings ally,
It was this part of your post that struck me quite well.
I absolutely agree.IMO, there can be no true and strong Mastery of the body if the mind has not first been Mastered. it is our mind that our body reacts to, even in physical touch it is the electrical currents that run from our nerves that signal the brain to react. The same holds true emotionally. Every thing we feel stems from the messages and reactions our brain gives  off.
Anyone can control another's body, thru various means, either pleasant or unpleasant.However, It takes a lot of thought, technique, will power and strength (of mind) to Master the mind of an individual.
Once you have a persons mind held in a strong Mastery, the rest just naturally follows.
Anyways just my  own opinion.

be well,
FW Maahsatti



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RE: New to Online controling.. - 2/7/2009 5:29:26 AM   
Musicmystery


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it is done over the phone and now and then online


HE: Strip, now.

SHE: Yes, Master. [Sitting on couch in jeans and sweatshirt. Takes bite of tuna fish sandwich on wheat, extra mayo. Flips through Cosmo.]

HE: Nadu, now.

SHE: [moans softly] Yes, Master. [Turns TV on mute, sees if anything's happening on Oprah.]

HE: You didn't follow the instructions I gave you the other day. Prepare to be punished.

SHE: I'm sorry, Master [Rolls eyes, wonders if he plans to cyber-whip her.]

HE: Here is what you're to do...[continues babbling on masterfully....]

SHE: Yes, Master....[craddles phone on arm, picks up pile of bills and sifts through them, paying the pressing ones....]

HE: ......Do you understand, girl? Do you?

SHE: [texting: sorry, can't right not. talking to this guy. no...you know how guys are. OK. call u later.]






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RE: New to Online controling.. - 2/7/2009 5:39:02 AM   
Maahsatti


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Hi Tim,

  You truly crack me up sometimes.
But seriously, it  is true that to truly own and keep a slave in a solid Mastery, the man must first own her mind. Once that has happened, he has complete control over the rest of her.wouldnt you agree?
Though even with what you say being funny, it is indeed often times very accurate....lol..there are always exceptions to the rule however.
Whether this begins online or on the phone or both, it is still just as true IMO as if they were face to face from the start.

Take care,
Babs


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RE: New to Online controling.. - 2/7/2009 6:37:21 AM   
Anarrus


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Arywen,

Tim's and Olaf's posts contrasted with AllyC's and Maahsatti's really gets to the heart of the matter. For some it works and for some it never will. We've probably all been there at one time or another. There's no handbook, but sure as shit now that I've said that, someone will post a link to an online one. You're gonna have to find your own way on this one bud.

Olaf....do you happen to know where I can get another operation manual for the 2150?...the dog chewed mine up last night.

Anarrus



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RE: New to Online controling.. - 2/7/2009 7:46:04 AM   
donnaamarie


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Status: offline 		Greetings Master,

ally already so eloquently spoke of the mind part of control so I don't need to go there.  I will address your question about physically seeing her.  Clearly all she needs is a webcam and then you can see that she is doing what you command her to do.  If she does not wish to get a webcam then perhaps she is not on the same page as you with all of this.  Writing assignments work well -- although by god I hate those -- and show that there is an honest attempt on her part to be what you need her to be.  Also cell phones are equipped with cameras and if you instruct her to wear a certain item or clothing on a certain day then she can always snap a pic and send it to your phone to prove that she obeyed.

As far as her having a teenage son, webcams have come a long way and can be put on and removed quite easily.  I bought a webcam a Masters command, I hadn't had one before, and my kids at the time were 9 and 12 and they would run behind me sticking out their tongues at Master when the cam was on.

I hope any of the above helps, and good luck.

donna

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RE: New to Online controling.. - 2/7/2009 8:03:46 AM   
seababy


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ORIGINAL: JarlOlaf

Personally, I use the Craftsman Mind Control-O-Matic Helmet 2150.  That lets me control slaves at great distance.  The Little Tykes Orb of all seeing is useful as well....

I need a lot more coffee

Olaf


See? And people laughed when I started wearing my tinfoil hat while reading CM!
I knew I was on to something.

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RE: New to Online controling.. - 2/7/2009 8:43:15 AM   
gingy


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Status: offline 		Hello,

Just some ideas. The cam and sound is a wonderful idea. She may want to put the pc in her room and install a lock on the door. She might put a large fan or stereo by the door and window, to keep the nosy teen at bay. My roommate Doms on-line all the time. He sends them out with cell-phones to take pics of each others shaved pussies, and assigns them tasks of say picking up a guy to have fun with. He tells them exactly what he wants them to do, and send pics back via email to prove what they have done. He tells them exactly how they should dress, when and how to beg to cum ect. He has a knack for controlling the mind and this seems to work for him.
While I have tried Dominating on-line, it's just not as satisfying for me as in person.  However, if you are building towards a future together it can be revealing as to her psyche.
Hope this helped some. Have fun and enjoy.
Gingy

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RE: New to Online controling.. - 2/7/2009 8:56:33 AM   
edana


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Thank you Master, that was very funny!  i so USED to resemble that remark!

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RE: New to Online controling.. - 2/7/2009 9:05:43 AM   
blacksword404


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quote:

ORIGINAL: seababy

quote:

ORIGINAL: JarlOlaf

Personally, I use the Craftsman Mind Control-O-Matic Helmet 2150.  That lets me control slaves at great distance.  The Little Tykes Orb of all seeing is useful as well....

I need a lot more coffee

Olaf


See? And people laughed when I started wearing my tinfoil hat while reading CM!
I knew I was on to something.



Well I will help you out. I have here an Anti-Mind Control Turban. And you can have it for 3 easy payments of $19.95 and one complicated bitch of a payment of $89.66. Works very well. Although it is chinese made. And if you are kind of pale skinned you will become tanned if you use it.

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RE: New to Online controling.. - 2/7/2009 9:18:16 AM   
seababy


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ORIGINAL: blacksword404

Well I will help you out. I have here an Anti-Mind Control Turban. And you can have it for 3 easy payments of $19.95 and one complicated bitch of a payment of $89.66. Works very well. Although it is chinese made. And if you are kind of pale skinned you will become tanned if you use it.


I think I'll stick with the tinfoil hat, it must suit me as I get a lot of stares when I go out.




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RE: New to Online controling.. - 2/7/2009 9:20:32 AM   
ElizabethAnne


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Status: offline 		Hello gingy,

And this is his form of control, and or mastery?  Sounds more like perving to me.  But hey, what do I know.

Be well,

Elizabeth

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RE: New to Online controling.. - 2/7/2009 9:32:54 AM   
Leonidas


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Status: offline 		Here's some advice for you that dates from well before Al Gore invented the internet:

What you cannot enforce, do not command. - Sophocles

Does your would-be slave have the self-discipline to carry out your commands, and admit it when she falls short, even though she knows you have no real way of verifying her compliance and holding her accountable?  If so, she's a rare girl indeed.  Our old friend Sophocles was making the point that if you command a bunch of stuff that you cannot enforce, your credibility and authority are eroded.  This is doubly true when handling slave girls, in my experience. 

I recently sent my slave to Texas for a year, and she came back 40 pounds heavier.  I wasn't surprised.  Slave girls are not generally long on self-discipline.  It is one of the reasons that they belong in a collar.  If you must keep a slave at a distance, take Sophocles' advice.  Command what you can enforce, and only that, until the girl is actually at your feet.  You'll be more credible, and a lot less frustrated.


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RE: New to Online controling.. - 2/7/2009 2:40:40 PM   
Angrylibrarian


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Every body in this thread is awesome.

Now that I'm done with that, I'd like to discuss briefly, a not so new and very real phenomenon that we players like to call. "Online is the only way I can get any attentionameniatosis" or OITOWICGAA.

Basically, if you're interested in real human connections, then online is not the place to get them.  A massive part of ALL relationships are non verbal.  The second massive part of human relationships are audibe through tone and inflection. A tiny tiny part of human relationships is understanding clever lines of text. (Although its increasing!) If your newest online friend does not want to escalate to a phone call, and make real plans with you to be human beings together in a sane and adult manner, then they may suffer from OITOWICGAA.

You see, people who are unable to form lasting relationships offline often gravitate toward the intertubes to create relationships that fill the void.  They rely on the process we players like to call "Qualification" where each partner qualifies themselves to the other and gradually increase the amount of mental and emotional investment in each other. However, chronic OITOWICGAA prevents sufferers from ever transitioning out of qualification into comfort, achieving true happiness and living full lives. This in itself can cause cyclical behavior patterns.

So, talk to your doctor about OITOWICGAA and see if fresh air, telephone conversations and sincere plans for the future are right for you.

warning: Fresh air telephone conversations and sincere plans for the future have been known to cause the following side effects in some cases:  Allergies, excessive phone bills, and heartbreak. Before treating OITOWICGAA ask your psychiatrist if you are ready to date after your last horrific break up.  Results of sincere plans for the future may vary.

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