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OrionTheWolf -> Secretary Clinton warns of Mortal Threat (4/23/2009 1:51:06 PM)

http://www.voanews.com/english/2009-04-22-voa66.cfm

"U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has harshly criticized Pakistan's government saying it has abdicated to the Taliban, adding the potential collapse of the Pakistani state would pose a mortal threat to global security. "

Now can we understand why no more nations should have nuclear weapons? So what if Pakistan does fall to the Taliban or the loosely confederate groups that Pakistan is facing?

"We cannot underscore [enough] the seriousness of the existential threat posed to the state of Pakistan by the continuing advances, now within hours of Islamabad, that are being made by a loosely-confederated group of terrorists and others who are seeking the overthrow of the Pakistani state, which as we all know is a nuclear-armed state," she said."

Even a progressive such as Clinton sees the danger that could occur. This is pretty strong talk, and very similar talk about another country several years ago.




slvemike4u -> RE: Secretary Clinton warns of Mortal Threat (4/23/2009 2:12:21 PM)

She is absolutely right,the danger posed by fundamentalists acquiring access to nukes can not be overstated.




gman992 -> RE: Secretary Clinton warns of Mortal Threat (5/6/2009 10:48:36 PM)

Wow...she's just like Condi and GWB!




Owner59 -> RE: Secretary Clinton warns of Mortal Threat (5/6/2009 10:54:23 PM)

Hillary dropped the ball on 9/11 ?!?

I thought Condi was national security adviser at that time........

My bad.....




CruelNUnsual -> RE: Secretary Clinton warns of Mortal Threat (5/6/2009 11:06:31 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

Hillary dropped the ball on 9/11 ?!?

I thought Condi was national security adviser at that time........

My bad.....


Yes, your bad. Shrillary was in the White House when the ball was dropped on Bin Laden, leading to 9.11.




Owner59 -> RE: Secretary Clinton warns of Mortal Threat (5/6/2009 11:16:33 PM)

Hillary chanted "no war for Monica"?


I thought that was the republicans.....oh well....


My bad...




DanaYielding -> RE: Secretary Clinton warns of Mortal Threat (5/6/2009 11:19:28 PM)

it was all good for the Hil. While monica was servicing the presidential staff, the Hil was telling the Saudi's no need to keep Bin Laden under lock and key




Owner59 -> RE: Secretary Clinton warns of Mortal Threat (5/6/2009 11:24:24 PM)

You`re getting your lies mixed up and muddled.




CruelNUnsual -> RE: Secretary Clinton warns of Mortal Threat (5/6/2009 11:30:41 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

You`re getting your lies mixed up and muddled.


At least youre capable of memorizing far left talking points. Now develop enough reasoning ability to realize what is truth and what is bs and you'll almost sound intelligent when you repeat the bs.




Owner59 -> RE: Secretary Clinton warns of Mortal Threat (5/6/2009 11:57:14 PM)

I`m just keeping the lies straight.

It was the Sudanese who had bin-laden and supposedly offered him to us.Not the Saudis.If you`re going to lie affectively,one has to stick to the script and keep the details like time place and people consistent.

As for the Saudis.....I wonder after 7 years if we`ll find out how and why they were able to leave the US in mass just days after 9/11 without even a FBI interview?At a time when no one was permitted to fly.




DanaYielding -> RE: Secretary Clinton warns of Mortal Threat (5/7/2009 12:01:12 AM)

Awww what happened to sarcasm O? I stand/sit/kneel corrected, the Sudanese, not the Saudis . The main point remains.




CruelNUnsual -> RE: Secretary Clinton warns of Mortal Threat (5/7/2009 12:41:15 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

I`m just keeping the lies straight.

It was the Sudanese who had bin-laden and supposedly offered him to us.Not the Saudis.If you`re going to lie affectively,one has to stick to the script and keep the details like time place and people consistent.

As for the Saudis.....I wonder after 7 years if we`ll find out how and why they were able to leave the US in mass just days after 9/11 without even a FBI interview?At a time when no one was permitted to fly.


LMAO. So youre a closet truther, figures. No Saudis were permitted to leave until general air traffic was reopened, and many if not all of them were questioned before they were permitted to leave. Michael Moore is a serial liar, and repeating his lies destroys what little credibility you migth have had.




subrob1967 -> RE: Secretary Clinton warns of Mortal Threat (5/7/2009 12:59:49 AM)

I always knew the Dem's were the party of fear mongering.




CruelNUnsual -> RE: Secretary Clinton warns of Mortal Threat (5/7/2009 1:04:26 AM)

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ORIGINAL: subrob1967

I always knew the Dem's were the party of fear mongering.



Dont know about fear mongering, but they are certainly the party of the "big lie".




Marc2b -> RE: Secretary Clinton warns of Mortal Threat (5/7/2009 6:43:17 AM)

quote:

As for the Saudis.....I wonder after 7 years if we`ll find out how and why they were able to leave the US in mass just days after 9/11 without even a FBI interview?At a time when no one was permitted to fly.


Why wait, the answer is right here.




DarkSteven -> RE: Secretary Clinton warns of Mortal Threat (5/7/2009 6:55:54 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: gman992

Wow...she's just like Condi and GWB!


gman, I have no clue what you mean by that remark.  The Bush White House decided that it needed an Arab ally and was willing to cut a deal with the Musharraf devil to get it.  Bush overlooked the threat that Pakistan posed longterm in order to achieve some very short term goals.  Now that Musharraf is out of power, it is difficult ro see any beenfits of his policy.






OrionTheWolf -> RE: Secretary Clinton warns of Mortal Threat (5/7/2009 7:03:35 AM)

"They left the country on a private charter plane when airports reopened three days after the attacks."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/09/30/archive/main313048.shtml

"FBI escorted the family members to a secret assembly point in Texas and then to Washington from where they left the country in a chartered plane after airports re-opened three days after the attacks. "

http://archives.tcm.ie/breakingnews/2001/09/30/story25178.asp

And here is the snopes article on the lie that is being kept straight

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/flights.asp


quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

I`m just keeping the lies straight.

It was the Sudanese who had bin-laden and supposedly offered him to us.Not the Saudis.If you`re going to lie affectively,one has to stick to the script and keep the details like time place and people consistent.

As for the Saudis.....I wonder after 7 years if we`ll find out how and why they were able to leave the US in mass just days after 9/11 without even a FBI interview?At a time when no one was permitted to fly.




CruelNUnsual -> RE: Secretary Clinton warns of Mortal Threat (5/7/2009 8:18:40 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf

"They left the country on a private charter plane when airports reopened three days after the attacks."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/09/30/archive/main313048.shtml

"FBI escorted the family members to a secret assembly point in Texas and then to Washington from where they left the country in a chartered plane after airports re-opened three days after the attacks. "

http://archives.tcm.ie/breakingnews/2001/09/30/story25178.asp

And here is the snopes article on the lie that is being kept straight

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/flights.asp


quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

I`m just keeping the lies straight.

It was the Sudanese who had bin-laden and supposedly offered him to us.Not the Saudis.If you`re going to lie affectively,one has to stick to the script and keep the details like time place and people consistent.

As for the Saudis.....I wonder after 7 years if we`ll find out how and why they were able to leave the US in mass just days after 9/11 without even a FBI interview?At a time when no one was permitted to fly.



Most of the Saudis that were evacuated left on 9/20, a week after the airports re-opened. There were interviews and detailed questioning of anyone that hadn't already been cleared of suspicion because they had been thoroughly investigated before 9/11. Its all in the 9/11 commission report.

Next thing will be nonsense about WTC7. This is the only "neutral" site I know of where truthers are permitted to post their nonsense endlessly.




Owner59 -> RE: Secretary Clinton warns of Mortal Threat (5/7/2009 10:12:11 AM)

Many,were never interviewed ,as per standard operating procedure in any law enforcement scenario.

They had private jets fly around the country to collect them and then they left.

I don`t see how this can be explained in any context.

I also can`t understand why anyone wouldn`t be suspicious.

The last sentence of the snoops link bothers me.

"Most passengers were not interviewed"




CruelNUnsual -> RE: Secretary Clinton warns of Mortal Threat (5/7/2009 12:07:26 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

Many,were never interviewed ,as per standard operating procedure in any law enforcement scenario.

They had private jets fly around the country to collect them and then they left.

I don`t see how this can be explained in any context.

I also can`t understand why anyone wouldn`t be suspicious.

The last sentence of the snoops link bothers me.

"Most passengers were not interviewed"


At least youve abandoned the claim that they were allowed to fly during the airport shutdown. See how easy it is to open your mind?  Now take the next step and understand that during hostilities nations often evacuate or request evacuation of citizens that might be the focus of retaliation. It wasnt the least bit suspicious. "Most were not interviewed" because they had already been thoroughly investigated prior to 9/11 and there was no need to.




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