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ORIGINAL: MasterABD

However I think the fact of it is that there are an unusal ammount of roleplayers that come with gor. If you goto chatrooms as opposed to forums like these, you will see what I mean. The vast majority of chatroom gor has slaves typing out things that wouldn't be possable to do offline, and frankly it makes most people think of gorean lifestyle as a roleplaying joke.

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ORIGINAL: GingerleeDREAD

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Why does Gor raise so many hackles

I address this very question usually in the first day that someone comes to Me and asks Me about Gor.

There are usually two perspectives that I hear, One is from the vanilla person who is agast that there is a current culture with in Our world that accepts slavery. Of course they have no understanding nor differing views not knowing there is a differance in nonconcensual and concensual slavery. The other vanilla view is from the very persons who come online to roleplay the books of Gor and yet do not accept nor appreciate nor respect that there are people who would actually live in real life that which they can only imagine to roleplay in a fantasy setting. These two groups of vanilla people generate opinions that goes against Our particular lifestyle and its ways and its people who choose to live such.

The second perspective is the alternate lifestylers who go by a set of rules regulations and proticals based off of the S.S.C and R.A.C.K concepts of today which say basically that there should be no act no action or reaction thats taken with out concent and vountary action. The books of Gor blantantly go against such rules with things like nonconcensual slavery, slave rape, raiding citys and waring as well as being a One sided Dominated Society with no rights to any other then the One with the strongest Arm and weilding sword and sheild and cock between His legs. (unless your a 12 foot cockroach ..... makes a soul wonder why a cock roach is called COCK roach?? Its gotta do with that damn thing being stronger then any living thing on the planet and lving thru every damn thing and the concept that this is what Men and Goreans are suppose to be as well. { puts My face in My hand and starts thinking about what bugs names start with pussy.})
These acts that are read in the books by those whom live in BDSM or D/s find this very scarry because not only does it go against the common laws of the BDSM Worlds Proticals but Societies in todays industrialzed world as well. The point here is that those who choose to live as Goreans do not break laws to live under the extreams of Gor. They simply beleive in the concepts that FREE Dom is above all other things along with HONOR regardless if it is the FREE DOM to rule complete as Free Persons or the freedom to subjudicate complete as slaves. This thought and concept does scare not only those in a BDSM world but the Vanilla World as well especially in the morally politically correct climate We are living in today. Hell look at this site alone, It was suppose to be a site of nonconformity however when anyone gets to grosteque, to perverse, to alternate, to outspoken, to weird or phycotic in nature their simple words just words down to the stories and poetry of all of US is pulled from the public and the world wide webs eye in the worry that such words might get Us a stint or in the least the owners of this place of comming a stint in the pokkie. But I as a Gorean for One have fought for My Rights to be Different from just about all around Me My Whole life and I have no issue doing it for the right reasons against the Moral majority at all times and all costs because that is how My Honor is shown My Integrity and love for My Lifestyle is. Many are followers, You get one hackler and the rest sing in in unison but the Few are Leaders and its not easy to get folks out of the croud of singers whilst walking thru them in a burst to defy and defend on heading for the leader of the pack to jump on and hush. I know, Im one of those Goreans thats always hackled and bashed not just from those outside but by those inside Our places as well and its most always because they do not understand, do not comprehend, do not take the time to see that yes this to can work and be a viable way in life for any. Its easy to judge the lifestyle and not the person and lump it all in the bad basket. JMO

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Well i think people as a whole have evolved and in the words of one person in the gor threads said, "i like getting in touch with my barbarian self" or something to that extent. to them i say go to iraq or fight some other war where you can truly be your warrior self. How many of you warriors ever fought in a real hand to hand battle or combat? The way i see it if anyone wants to be noble join the marines and fight for this country. you may have done so but most out here are nothing more than armchair warriors with no real claim to that title other than lording over the physically weaker of the species. in the words of a kingon there is no glory in that!

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well they are very shy in making a list of what gor is however.

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Well from my very short experience on this site it seems you folks who call yourselves gorean are creating your own problems.
see my post #167 http://www.collarchat.com/m_241820/mpage_9/tm.htm

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well i wont claim someone is not what they claim to be but i will state that the differences between them and something else are not distinguishable.

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from what i can tell there as many kinds as carter has pills.

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Well i think people as a whole have evolved and in the words of one person in the gor threads said, "i like getting in touch with my barbarian self" or something to that extent. to them i say go to iraq or fight some other war where you can truly be your warrior self. How many of you warriors ever fought in a real hand to hand battle or combat? The way i see it if anyone wants to be noble join the marines and fight for this country. you may have done so but most out here are nothing more than armchair warriors with no real claim to that title other than lording over the physically weaker of the species. in the words of a kingon there is no glory in that!

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The key here perhaps is that too few outside Gorean Society really understand that ours is a system based on honor, integrity, personal responsibility, and honest dealing with our fellows. It is also based on Natural Order, and an understanding that biologicaly, men are dominant, women submissive, and that human beings would be a whole lot more healthy and better off emotionally if society did not try to thwart the Natural Order at every turn. Note, that this says noting about relative worth of people. Our slaves may be in their natural place, but that is a far cry from saying that they are valueless. Without the yin, the yang has no purpose.

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