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A Champion for Truth - 5/19/2009 8:09:16 AM   
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RE: A Champion for Truth - 5/19/2009 10:28:52 AM   
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RE: A Champion for Truth - 5/19/2009 11:17:13 AM   
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RE: A Champion for Truth - 5/19/2009 1:23:36 PM   
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RE: A Champion for Truth - 5/19/2009 2:06:22 PM   
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Accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour , i promise you will never regret it. i pray the Lord gives me just alittle more time, so i can tell just 1 more person about Christ.

Where the Worthwhile Worship

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RE: A Champion for Truth - 5/19/2009 2:08:37 PM   
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RE: A Champion for Truth - 5/19/2009 2:16:52 PM   
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Accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour , i promise you will never regret it. i pray the Lord gives me just alittle more time, so i can tell just 1 more person about Christ.

Where the Worthwhile Worship

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i'm not sure i understand what you are asking/saying?

LaTigresse, How do i come acrossed as worshiping money? i don't even remember ever mentioning money in any of my posts?


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RE: A Champion for Truth - 5/19/2009 2:33:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		Your enthusiasm is to be commended, but you've got to understand that apart form the skeptics, the agnostics, the atheists, and those that have a different religion altogether, that there are many people out there who simply reject all of the premise of the Christian religion. You're all bright eyed and bushy tailed about it, but to many people out there... it's laughable more than anything. Sorry  .

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RE: A Champion for Truth - 5/19/2009 2:36:29 PM   
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Your enthusiasm is to be commended, but you've got to understand that apart form the skeptics, the agnostics, the atheists, and those that have a different religion altogether, that there are many people out there who simply reject all of the premise of the Christian religion. You're all bright eyed and bushy tailed about it, but to many people out there... it's laughable more than anything. Sorry  .

Thanks for that.... and i know what you speak of.


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RE: A Champion for Truth - 5/19/2009 3:03:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: breatheasone

Accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour , i promise you will never regret it. i pray the Lord gives me just alittle more time, so i can tell just 1 more person about Christ.

Where the Worthwhile Worship

K.





i'm not sure i understand what you are asking/saying?

LaTigresse, How do i come acrossed as worshiping money? i don't even remember ever mentioning money in any of my posts?



I was referring to the website Kirata linked. I've yet to go to a church, or meet a pastor of a church, that didn't worship the almighty dollar and try to bilk their followers out of as much of it as possible.


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RE: A Champion for Truth - 5/19/2009 3:05:57 PM   
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I was referring to the website Kirata linked. I've yet to go to a church, or meet a pastor of a church, that didn't worship the almighty dollar and try to bilk their followers out of as much of it as possible.

Ahh yep....you have NO idea how bad it FROSTS MY COOKIES to see that kind of shit in the name of God....

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RE: A Champion for Truth - 5/19/2009 3:15:11 PM   
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but to many people out there... it's laughable more than anything.

Well I admit that parody is a form of humor, but... with a point. The thing I find objectionable about Christianity is naming it after Christ. It's not that I think there's anything intrinsically funny about Christianity per se. It's just that in my view what the church is marketing is simply the same old Sacrificial Judaism in new robes.

"I will have mercy, not sacrifice" ~Matthew 9:13 and 12:7 (appears twice)

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RE: A Champion for Truth - 5/19/2009 3:24:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sorry, I expressed myself badly. What I describe as laughable is the proselytism that seems to enthuse a certain kind of Christian believers, who feel it's their duty to 'share the good word' with all the lost lambs out there. It's not Christianity per say that's laughable (although when one knows how the New Testament was put together, it's pretty upsetting that people choose to believe it's a sacred document when half of its texts haven't been included for spurious political reasons (gnostic gospels, anyone?)).

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RE: A Champion for Truth - 5/19/2009 3:36:45 PM   
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I was referring to the website Kirata linked. I've yet to go to a church, or meet a pastor of a church, that didn't worship the almighty dollar and try to bilk their followers out of as much of it as possible.



In the interests of balance, that's certainly not a uniform approach.

It's easy to suggest that religion causes war/is corrupt etc, and in certain hands it certainly can be a negative force; but the same applies to any idea.

The Anglican church is pretty reasonable on the whole: it's quite open, not particularly prescriptive, speaks out on the bombing of villages and maiming of their inhabitants, and preaches certain values such as tolerance and compassion. They're not a bad lot in my book.

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RE: A Champion for Truth - 5/19/2009 7:42:25 PM   
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RE: A Champion for Truth - 5/19/2009 9:11:20 PM   
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Also, I’ve never been keen on the idea of believing oneself to have sole possession of the truth.  I regard all positions as provisional – or at least, subject to skeptical inquiry.

That aside, religion (believing oneself to have sole possession of the truth – often with the flimsiest, if any, evidence) has indeed done terrible damage to human society down through the ages (though to be fair, there have been plenty of secular ideologies that have done tremendous damage as well).  But I am a firm believer that one must respect the rights of others if they are to have any basis upon which to assert there own.  I think it should also be noted that those who truly do good in the name of religion tend not to make the headlines.  Down the street from where I work there live a group of Nuns and a sweeter, humbler, kinder and more compassionate group of women you will never meet.  They are the polar opposite of the pushy, judgmental, Evangelicals.  The world needs more people like them. 

My admiration for these women aside, if anyone is interested in other problems with the facts of Christianity, I recommend two books:

The Bible Against Itself, by Randel McCraw Helms.  It does an excellent job in explaining why the Bible contradicts itself so often.

The Making of the Messiah, by Robert Sheaffer.  It explains how the Gospels (particularly the Synoptic Gospels) were altered to counter objections to the new religion.

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RE: A Champion for Truth - 5/20/2009 6:48:28 AM   
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RE: A Champion for Truth - 5/20/2009 10:07:24 AM   
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i pray the Lord gives me just alittle more time, so i can tell just 1 more person about Christ.

OK, you've told us about Christ, now kindly leave us alone...thank you

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RE: A Champion for Truth - 5/20/2009 10:27:20 AM   
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i pray the Lord gives me just alittle more time, so i can tell just 1 more person about Christ.

OK, you've told us about Christ, now kindly leave us alone...thank you


What the OP is doing is actively looking for martyredom  .

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RE: A Champion for Truth - 5/20/2009 10:38:26 AM   
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i pray the Lord gives me just alittle more time, so i can tell just 1 more person about Christ.

OK, you've told us about Christ, now kindly leave us alone...thank you


I have to wonder, why she should?
I mean, we have the 'free will' to not read or look at the link.  I do not see anything different in what the OP has done, than all the Obama and McCain threads that went on and on and on...
 
Everyone should be allowed to post their belief, I wouldn't want to see a pagan feel unable to post.  Nor an atheist.  Nor a Muslim.  Nor a Catholic.
 
Personally, on the op itself, I don't agree with the video because I have studied it before and it's pretty much made up statistics and misinformation etc.  I know that people have faith - but I do believe that people should know the truth rather than misleading videos.  And as I said in the other post containing this video, I find it a pretty poor way to champion procreation.

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