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RE: teaching a sub to orgasm on dom's demand - 8/20/2004 11:08:30 AM

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Human beings do not need touch to have an orgasm.

i agree with Gitta...

i can close my eyes and cum with some time... it is not something i can do on demand right now but if it can be done i hope i find the Dom to teach me that :)

for now i can however cum on demand more less if the Dom knows how close i am.. like when i ask if i may cum and have to beg to be able too and when He finally says "Yes Cum for me" sometimes just hearing the words i explode :) but then other times takes still a minute to get there.. Depends a lot on the mental and what else i have in my head at the time.

depends on Your thoughts what orgasm on demands is... if i were to walk into a room and my Dom says "cum now" i wouldn’t be able too ... i would stop what i am doing and try hard at it but it would take some time to get the mental where it should be...

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RE: teaching a sub to orgasm on dom's demand - 8/20/2004 10:18:54 PM

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I trained my wife to orgasm on command using hypnosis; to the original poster, this was before we were into this lifestyle. Basically, I put her into a deep trance with post hypnotic suggestions and then we did the dead with her either having an orgasm or not depending on whether or not she had permission. I spent the next several days re-enforcing and having fun with it. I used hypnosis mainly because she was not very orgasmic and would have felt immense pressure from the training another way. A nice side effect is that she has become multi-orgasmic; unless she isn't allowed to at all.

I've also found that if I tell her to orgasm from another stimulus; she will. For example, if we're walking through the mall and I tell her to orgasm upon seeing a woman she is attracted to; it happens as soon as she sees that attractive woman.

this was just a quote i found... i have no experince in hynosis *shrugs* thought it may help :)

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RE: teaching a sub to orgasm on dom's demand - 8/31/2004 5:38:56 PM

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Posting in response to Destinysskeins post . I realize this can severely impact ones' rep and self-image . Having accomplished the aforementioned topic of this particular forum several time , I am concerned relative to its impact . Destinysskeins alludes to the possible emotional & psychological trauma that could result from this training practice . Personally , enjoying meeting the needs of masochistic ladies , I Do Not in any way want to be a catalyst to any emotional or psychological damage . Thus , would be receptive and welcome to ideas and information relative to this point . Fun ceases to be , when it becomes counterproductive !! Thanks again . It is a blessing to be among other kindred spirits !!!

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RE: teaching a sub to orgasm on dom's demand - 8/31/2004 5:48:35 PM

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I wish I had seen this post sooner. I have seen enough orgasms to know when they are fake. Maybe you can be fooled, but trust me, my slave isn't faking it. And there have been a couple of other slaves I have trained to do this also. A slaves' desire to please (and cum) make it possible to do this. Of course she needs a Dom that knows what he is doing.

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RE: teaching a sub to orgasm on dom's demand - 8/31/2004 6:14:46 PM

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ORIGINAL: ShadowHwk

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ORIGINAL: TaurusMCMLVIII
I am sure you are very good at what you do but I hate to be the one to burst your bubble. A woman can not orgasm on command. Obviously if your sub walks into the room, a command from you or anyone will not make her reach orgasm. A woman's orgasm is very much mental. Much more mental than physical But the physical part is necessary also. One can not be achieved without the other and the mental is most critical. I hate to say this and I am sure I will get a lot of flack for this but if any woman is telling you different than I can say with certainty that she is not being totally honest with you. Women fake all the time to make us feel better. Most are incredibly good at it.
But I am not trying to convince anyone. If you want to believe you can command an orgasm and it works for you and your sub then go for it and enjoy!

You know, I always have to laugh at those who speak in such definitive ways about what someone can or cannot do. Yes I am laughing at your statement. Maybe in YOUR experience it has not happened.

You state something as a fact, yet you offer no evidence, you also don’t offer anything in the way of medical credentials so that we may infer that you know what your talking about. So we can only assume you are simply speaking from your experience (obviously somewhat more limited than others on this board), rather than a formal psychological study of some sort.

But, contrary to your statements, there is a large body of evidence and documentation that a Pavlovian response to a given stimulus can be induced in humans. Are you saying that the body of evidence is incorrect and that there is no such thing as a Pavlovian response? Or are you saying that it is impossible for a woman to be so conditioned that her Pavlovian response to a given stimulus is an orgasm? In either case before you state something as a fact you should probably do a bit of research.

Now Shadowhawk, obviously your sub and all those other subs are just faking it. Pavlov worked with dogs and bells. Now dogs are not humans and drooling is not an orgasm. In fact, because I never saw Pavlov or his dogs, I think we can say with complete certainty or would that be absolute certainty that the dogs, Pavlov and orgasms are all just entirely a figment, or is that a fig newton of your imagination.

Why next you will start making wild comments like there are people who let other people tie them up and whip them. I mean when I walk down the street everyday and I never see women hanging from lampposts being whipped! So there incontravertible proof there is no S&M. As I write this and look around the room, I see no dogs. So clearly dogs no longer exist.

Thank god (ah looking and no god) well thank the great pumpkin this wise one has come into our midst and enlightened us.

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RE: teaching a sub to orgasm on dom's demand - 8/31/2004 6:48:15 PM

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dragonofJapan,

Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! So needed a smile...

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RE: teaching a sub to orgasm on dom's demand - 8/31/2004 7:27:58 PM

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Very good points dragon. But I think Shadowhawk agrees with you. It's actually Taurus who was saying that you can't make a sub/slave orgasm on demand. Shadow was responding as was I to Taurus.

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RE: teaching a sub to orgasm on dom's demand - 9/1/2004 6:03:05 PM

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This is a tough assignment, and i dont have an answer. Some subs have told me that they cum on command of a bull whip, others when flogged, all without stimulation. But in delving deeper I found they either have been masturbating or using a dildo the whole time, and simply release in conjunction with another function like a spanking or pain pressure. If anyone has an answer I sure would like to try your theory!!

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ORIGINAL: onewelshman

i have never managed to do the above and am now wondering if this is reality or flight of fancy.
can any sub inform me how they hav been traneed to this point, and maybe put me in touch with the dom/me who is so special.

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RE: teaching a sub to orgasm on dom's demand - 9/1/2004 6:16:16 PM

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I am able to orgasm without physical stimulation, but I'm not sure about on command. Like any other orgasm it takes time to build up to that point, so far I think my record is 15 seconds.
The only reason I am able to orgasm that way is through a lot of training. I am very physically fit and am able to control almost all of the muscles in my lower stomach and groin area both individually and simultaneously (extensive anatomy and physiology knowledge helps as well). It has taken a very long time to get to this point, but it is possible and it definitely has its perks

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RE: teaching a sub to orgasm on dom's demand - 9/3/2004 4:57:30 PM

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But the physical part is necessary also. One can not be achieved without the other and the mental is most critical.

Hi Taurus,

I've experienced orgasm when dreaming.....with no physical stimulation. And I am most deinitely all female.

IMX, i do need to be in the right frame of mind to achieve orgasm, but i know for myself, it is possible to have *no* physical stimulation and still orgasm.....

so would you be open to changing your opinion?

thanks, robyn

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RE: teaching a sub to orgasm on dom's demand - 9/3/2004 9:00:41 PM

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When my slave returns from visiting her family, I will have her post her experience with cumming on my command. She needs no stimulation to do it, and has been trained to cum in quite a few ways. For example, I have trained her to imagine having anal sex with me and cumming just from the imagined scene. I am also teaching her to cum through pain. She is a quick learner.

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RE: teaching a sub to orgasm on dom's demand - 9/5/2004 12:42:16 AM

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Two words: Pavlovian Response.

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RE: teaching a sub to orgasm on dom's demand - 9/5/2004 10:30:01 PM

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One can cum on demand. My girl used to tell me stories about how she would dominate me. she would laugh as she told them, and she would end them with "and then I will put my shoe to your penis and tell you to cum." when the time came, I would be laying there, as she told me, and she would put her foot to my penis, and yes, I would cum on her demand.

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RE: teaching a sub to orgasm on dom's demand - 9/5/2004 11:16:26 PM

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she would put her foot to my penis, and yes, I would cum on her demand.

And on her shoe.

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RE: teaching a sub to orgasm on dom's demand - 9/18/2004 8:22:12 PM

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i used to know a girl who could do this. i used to think it was total nonsense and all for show. That was until my Master conditioned me and trained me to cum on command. He has conditioned me with certain words, by pinching my nipples, or by telling me when to cum. Its absolutely amazing. Another thing that i LOVE is he will tell me he is going to count to 10 or sometimes just to 5. And not to cum until then. Its very amazing.

So yes, this is very attainable. i have a very difficult time reaching orgasm anyway, so if i can be conditioned to do so, i believe anyone can !

Best of luck to you !

slave irish{SR}

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RE: teaching a sub to orgasm on dom's demand - 9/25/2004 6:29:08 PM

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if only someone would teach me to do such a thing.

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RE: teaching a sub to orgasm on dom's demand - 9/25/2004 7:23:33 PM

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Hi Sting516,
Don't give up hope. Orgasms on demand does happen, as does being able to orgasm without even being touched. The best way to experience this is through the loving dominance of a Dom/me. However, for those of us currently in transition, there are some things you can do for yourself to start the process. Again---everyone who reads this--this is just my own view/experience.

I find mental imagery and conditioning your responses is the most important. First, you have to know what turns you on and picture it completely in your mind. If possible, position yourself as you are in your "picture". For me, my picture is a strong dom standing behind me as I am strapped naked...(..lost in thought for a moment...) sorry. Anyway, picture what turns you on, then copy it to the best of your abilities. eg. bending over, kneeling naked, (pretend) tied to the bed, etc.

As you picture yourself giving up more power, hear his/her voice in your head (if you do not have a Dom/me currently, pick a voice that turns you on.) As you get closer to orgasm, hear "His/Her" voice telling you what to do/not do (does S/He order you not to? Does S/He tell you S/He is going to pick a special word or count and only then can you orgasm?) You decide what S/He will do based on your preference. As you are about to orgasm, keep in mind that voice and the instructions and only then let yourself go. The more you do this, the more quickly and easier orgasms come, and you will find that just thinking of the "word", "count", etc will bring you instantly to readiness and very close to orgasm--if not fully. It takes practice and a good imagination, but it does work while you are waiting for your Master and his training.

Hope this helps.

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RE: teaching a sub to orgasm on dom's demand - 9/29/2004 9:07:30 PM

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when you were a teenager did you never experience 'noturnal emission'? have you never had orgasm from an erotic dream? I have, and every man I have ever talked with has at least once in his life - and I know I was not jerking off in my sleep - I came from the mental images in my dream alone - so orgasm without physical stimulation is not only possible, but does exist

I agree. I can do it without being touched at all (though not in a vacuum).

Take care :)
Ophelia

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RE: teaching a sub to orgasm on dom's demand - 10/2/2004 10:28:19 AM

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I found this to be a fairly simple process. It takes a little time, but if you are consistant, and follow Pavlovian methods, a female body can be trained to do a lot of things. I started off with the countdown method like someone else mentioned earlier in the thread. While my sub was excited I would have her hold off orgasm while I physically stimulated her, until I had counted down to 1 then commanded her to orgasm. I then made it a requirement that she orgasm only in this way, with a countdown then a command to orgasm. Then slowly eliminated the physical stimulation and would just do the countdown only. Over time she could be brought to a very quick orgasm or it could be drawn out to be very long, depending on how fast I counted down. Also, like someone else mentioned, over a period of a few months you must be aware that a female can come to require this in order to orgasm and will lose, at least for a perioed of time the ability to orgasm without her Dom's countdown or command. Sub has said that it was the sound of my voice that was key to the triggering of the orgasm.

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RE: teaching a sub to orgasm on dom's demand - 10/2/2004 10:56:30 AM

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thanks so much for the support, strongminded...that said...i think it would mean more to me to wait until there is a Domme who wishes this for me.

oh....and believe me, there are those images i could easily put in my mind lol

sting

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