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RE: Chastity Devices - 2/25/2006 12:44:23 PM

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Your point doesn't stand.

Show me an inescapable chastity device that's currently on the market and I'll agree that I was mistaken.

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The average joe interested in being locked up isn't going through the trouble of learning to pick a lock. You take the term escape proof too literally. As long as you can't easily escape without cutting/destroying the device. Then it is esentially escape proof. Lori's tubes are an excellent chastity device that the average joe just isn't going to get out of without a key.

"Essentially" escape proof is not escape proof. Arguing semantics and caveats isn't going to change that fact.

~stef

YOu are correct of course! i can go out in my garage and get a host of tools and be out of anything in seconds, worst case minutes even if its welded on!

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RE: Chastity Devices - 2/25/2006 1:05:03 PM

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Are you being intentionally vacuous? Of course you could remove a chastity device with an angle grinder or a Dremel. We both know that's not what was being discussed.

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RE: Chastity Devices - 2/25/2006 3:17:43 PM

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Are you being intentionally vacuous? Of course you could remove a chastity device with an angle grinder or a Dremel. We both know that's not what was being discussed.

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The challenge is whether or not there is a device a sub could remove and put back on and have the femdom never know. We'd have to assume he was a sneaky bastard then and had no real intention of submitting for real, just on his own terms. The bigger issue here is that his lack of real devotion would show in other ways anyway. She'd know he was lying and cheating and in reality he's only cheating himself. The "honor system" works incredibly well if trust is in place.

For femdoms that need to enforce chastity and there's no mutual trust/honesty in place, surely there's a need for a device that can't be compromised. He can break a lock, saw it off, smash it with a hammer or go to a locksmith. But the device is then destroyed and certainly the jig would be up when she came over and pulled down his pants. So there's not much "sneaking" possibility there.

Are there devices that can be easily compromised and put back on and the femdom wouldn't know? Sure, of course. Then there are ones that are trickier to fool around with and not get caught. If a sub is spending all his time figuring out how to get out of his dick cage, methinks he doesn't deserve to be wearing it in the first place. I'd find a sub interested in submitting on my terms and leave the rest to play alone with their chastity tubes.

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RE: Chastity Devices - 2/25/2006 4:14:00 PM

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Are you being intentionally vacuous? Of course you could remove a chastity device with an angle grinder or a Dremel. We both know that's not what was being discussed.

~stef

fine of course you can pick a lock but if it is filled with a hi quality epoxy or if the key is broke off in the lock and its smashed into it then its inescapable.

i suppose you are going to hold me to a stock lock now so you can pick it.

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RE: Chastity Devices - 2/25/2006 4:43:43 PM

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I'm only holding you to reality. Aside from "one handed" reading material, I don't know of anyone who has put such a device on someone then destroyed the locking mechanism, and I'll wager you don't either.

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RE: Chastity Devices - 2/25/2006 8:22:45 PM

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Take a look at the yahoo cb3000 (? CB-3000). There are some good pix there. One nice one is a cb3k woth a steel locking pin and steel washers over the guide pins; and on top of that there's a 2 gauge PA with the the captive ball inside the cb3k tip; and a second padlock as well as a numbered plastic one hanging from the PA ring. It's called (I think) incased.

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RE: Chastity Devices - 2/25/2006 9:18:58 PM

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I'm only holding you to reality. Aside from "one handed" reading material, I don't know of anyone who has put such a device on someone then destroyed the locking mechanism, and I'll wager you don't either.

~stef

of course i have. hell i have been into this since you were about 5yo.

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RE: Chastity Devices - 2/25/2006 9:28:01 PM

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I'm only holding you to reality. Aside from "one handed" reading material, I don't know of anyone who has put such a device on someone then destroyed the locking mechanism, and I'll wager you don't either.

~stef

of course i have. hell i have been into this since you were about 5yo.

You have what? Put on a device and destroyed the locking mechanism?

And what does how long you have been into it since she was 5 have anything to do with it? I know plenty of people that have "been into it" since before I was born, that doesn't mean they have educated views about anything other than what they gather from porn and fantasy.

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RE: Chastity Devices - 2/25/2006 10:18:55 PM

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I'm only holding you to reality. Aside from "one handed" reading material, I don't know of anyone who has put such a device on someone then destroyed the locking mechanism, and I'll wager you don't either.

~stef

of course i have. hell i have been into this since you were about 5yo.

You have what? Put on a device and destroyed the locking mechanism?

And what does how long you have been into it since she was 5 have anything to do with it? I know plenty of people that have "been into it" since before I was born, that doesn't mean they have educated views about anything other than what they gather from porn and fantasy.

Akasha

yeh i am pretty uneducated about porn and fantasy

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RE: Chastity Devices - 2/25/2006 10:25:07 PM

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I'm only holding you to reality. Aside from "one handed" reading material, I don't know of anyone who has put such a device on someone then destroyed the locking mechanism, and I'll wager you don't either.

~stef

of course i have. hell i have been into this since you were about 5yo.

You have what? Put on a device and destroyed the locking mechanism?

And what does how long you have been into it since she was 5 have anything to do with it? I know plenty of people that have "been into it" since before I was born, that doesn't mean they have educated views about anything other than what they gather from porn and fantasy.

Akasha

yeh i am pretty uneducated about porn and fantasy

Aren't you the guy that knew how long it took to download 8.5 gigs of porn or some such?

You didn't answer the question about clarifying whether or not you have put on a device and destroyed the locking mechanism.

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RE: Chastity Devices - 2/25/2006 10:40:33 PM

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8.5 gigs of porn. Assuming the connection was good and stable, 5 hours.

Thats just an assumption, course then there is finding time, that adds.

*shrug* porn is too boring to put that much effort into. Odd one here and there.

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RE: Chastity Devices - 2/25/2006 10:48:46 PM

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of course i have.

Really? What kind of device was it?

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hell i have been into this since you were about 5yo.

That's nice.

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RE: Chastity Devices - 2/25/2006 11:18:32 PM

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of course i have.

Really? What kind of device was it?

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hell i have been into this since you were about 5yo.

That's nice.

~stef

Oh are you assuming that because the lock is broken it cannot be taken off?

There are people who want inescapable for "real" with exception to destruction and yes when their dom(me) wants it off the $1.25 lock is destroyed by the dom(me), thus inescapable chastity for the slave short of the slave cutting it off in which case welding wont work either

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RE: Chastity Devices - 2/26/2006 9:13:30 AM

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I'm with Aakasha on this one - I feel the real issue is that the guy is spending too much time trying to figure out how to get his chastity device off and not enough time submitting.

Neither of our boys wears a chastity device, and only once has either of them been in trouble for being unchaste. We trust them, and that trust has been earned. We don't intend to get a chastity device for either of our boys (except maybe for asthetic purposes if we can ever find one that we like) and if it became needed, then the boy would no longer be ours.

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RE: Chastity Devices - 2/26/2006 11:13:25 AM

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Oh are you assuming that because the lock is broken it cannot be taken off?

I'm not assuming anything. That's why I asked the question. And for the reply that you deleted last night, if you have a photo of such a device, there are numerous file sharing sites you could host it on and share the URL with us.

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There are people who want inescapable for "real" with exception to destruction and yes when their dom(me) wants it off the $1.25 lock is destroyed by the dom(me), thus inescapable chastity for the slave short of the slave cutting it off in which case welding wont work either.

That trick generally only works for the cheap 'cage' type designs that use a padlock and leave the hasp accessable, which are easily removable anyway. I don't see anyone doing that to a Tollyboy, Neosteel or a Goethals any time soon.

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RE: Chastity Devices - 2/26/2006 12:31:29 PM

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Oh are you assuming that because the lock is broken it cannot be taken off?

I'm not assuming anything. That's why I asked the question. And for the reply that you deleted last night, if you have a photo of such a device, there are numerous file sharing sites you could host it on and share the URL with us.

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There are people who want inescapable for "real" with exception to destruction and yes when their dom(me) wants it off the $1.25 lock is destroyed by the dom(me), thus inescapable chastity for the slave short of the slave cutting it off in which case welding wont work either.

That trick generally only works for the cheap 'cage' type designs that use a padlock and leave the hasp accessable, which are easily removable anyway. I don't see anyone doing that to a Tollyboy, Neosteel or a Goethals any time soon.

~stef

Yeh as far as the pic statement; i took it out because it occurred to me they will not let me post it on here anyway.

i am talking about an insertable tube with a urine exit, It is a circle. it goes in the tip of the penis and there is a piercing done between the ass and scrotum where the tube comes out and is locked.

pretty extreme and pretty effective

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RE: Chastity Devices - 2/26/2006 3:02:45 PM

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Are you referring to the device made by Steelwerks Extreme for the gent with the urethral re-route? Ignoring for a moment the fact that the device in question doesn't even lock, Chris has only made *one* of those devices. If you're talking about a different one, I'd love to hear about it.

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RE: Chastity Devices - 2/26/2006 4:49:26 PM

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Are you referring to the device made by Steelwerks Extreme for the gent with the urethral re-route? Ignoring for a moment the fact that the device in question doesn't even lock, Chris has only made *one* of those devices. If you're talking about a different one, I'd love to hear about it.

~stef

i dont know about the reroute version but he has sold several in europe, and no i am not talking about the steelwerks toys, but he does have a locking version now of the model you pasted. ;) that and if you want a 3 1/2 pound weight hanging off your dick all day long. (which is put together backwards in that photo btw) lol

i think this was a custom job. it was cageless, wasnt a tru circle but closer to a horseshoe sort of shape from what i could tell with a couple tiny chainlinks on one end and an eye on the other for the lock. it had a flange so he cuold not get hard and a clamp collar on the underside, i didnt ask his domme to remove it so that is the best i can describe it. It was basically just a single uretheral tube that went in and out and looked kind of like the steelwerks one you posted without the cock cage and a different shaped tube.

He claimed it didnt hurt and that he could wear it indefinitely as long as he maintained exemplary hygiene. It seems to me tho that this type of chastity is a welcoming mat for infections.

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RE: Chastity Devices - 2/27/2006 10:59:47 PM

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Hi there...

thank you SOOOO much for all your generous and thoughtful replies. I am looking for a device you can't pull out of, and you don't have to get a piercing to wear. It should be a cage..and reasonably inconspicuous under clothing.

Thought I'd narrow it down a bit. I would never cut a lock by the way...that just defeats the purpose.

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RE: Chastity Devices - 3/6/2006 9:23:51 PM

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I have yet to test this device, but will be ordering one soon.
If you go to the ClubFEM website, they have this really simple chastity device for only $40 and it actually looks to be totally adjustable (I was soooo disappointed to learn that the CB3000 was too narrow for my boy to wear it for any real length of time.

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