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RE: ~~Yeah they're sisters My ASS!!!~~ - 8/24/2009 7:57:46 PM   
DrkJourney


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Status: offline 		I have two answers for that:

For the "polite" asker;  "I'm sorry that's personal"

For the "not so polite" asker;  "and this is your business how?"

Basically, your life is no one elses business, and nice or not, if they are going to stick their noses in, they deserve whatever they get.

I am not poly yet, but around here there are so many old bats that think it's their right to know everyone elses business, my responses are just come second nature. 

I don't feel the need to give anyone an answer to any question that's none of their business, nor do I feel the need to be polite.  If they were polite they would've asked in the first place.

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RE: ~~Yeah they're sisters My ASS!!!~~ - 8/26/2009 8:00:49 PM   
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RE: ~~Yeah they're sisters My ASS!!!~~ - 8/26/2009 8:19:01 PM   
SteelofUtah


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Status: offline 		Okay, as to the why explain anything there are reasons why when a question such as...

"so... uh.. whats the deal with that girl you always have over." comes up it is being asked by someone who knows both my wife and I and are aware that she is a new addition. We aren't really restrictive on our contact because.... well that just doesn't work for our kind of relationship.

When someone asks such a question it is because there is already talk. They just have the balls to ask about it. Giving some BS answer that they are Sisters just won't fly period, I like the idea of making the questioning most uncomfortable for the nosey nancy rather than trying to actually explain.

The Problem is that in a Small Town like St George People don't JUST talk they make phone calls and start Morality Groups and Petition the Mayor and stupid shit like that.

Also Utah as a State is a RED state, the Majority of people here are VERY Conservative and this is the kind of thing they look at like Villagers to Dr. Frankenstein's Lab. They want to Protect Morality but only as long as it is THEIR Morality.

The Really Funny thing is that I myself am fairly conservative, when it comes to certain things I just don't give a Shit. Like this I really don't care about what you do in the privacy of your own home or in your desired love dream.

It's not like anyone else has asked anything since andi was asked by the neighbor...... but I am happy to get input on how to answer should it happen again.

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RE: ~~Yeah they're sisters My ASS!!!~~ - 8/26/2009 9:06:35 PM   
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   They want to Protect Morality but only as long as it is THEIR Morality. 


A number of years ago I offered a place in my home to a co-worker who was evicted from her apartment and was struggling financially.  There was a great deal of buzz at work and with some of my friends who decided we were a lesbian couple.  She was very upset by that, but my response was it didn’t matter what anyone else thought, we knew the truth. 
My point is, your two ladies could be sisters, but people will believe what they want to believe and the truth doesn’t matter much to those folks!
My observation is that the moralistic, ‘family values’ holy rollers have dirtier minds than we do!


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RE: ~~Yeah they're sisters My ASS!!!~~ - 8/26/2009 10:43:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		Fun story to share.  The Boyfriend and I live in a three family house.  The people who live on the top is this super christian family that isn't really all that fond of us or our other neighbors.  The family living right above us is a little different.  It's a Mom and two kids but the kids are close to our age (they're both in their 20's) and we're friendly with them.  The son, the Boyfriend and I are all smokers and catch each other outside on a fairly frequent basis- especially over the summer.

Well, one night we were outside and the guy upstairs and his friend were over and they were a bit stoned and/or drunk (doesn't really matter) and he was like "Dude! Your place is like a revolving door of women.  And I've seen him kiss them.  I've seen her kiss them too."  Pause as he figures some things out in his head.  "That's pretty cool."


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RE: ~~Yeah they're sisters My ASS!!!~~ - 8/27/2009 6:01:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		The best response I have ever heard is from Miss Manners.  She said that whenever someone asks you a question that is really none of their business to just smile and ask, "Why do you want to know?"  I have used it and usually they hem and haw and say, "Nevermind."  Of course I am making brutal eye contact while they do. 

But, as St. George is much more relaxed than say Salt Lake City or Provo as far as the mormon cult, I wouldn't worry about too much.

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RE: ~~Yeah they're sisters My ASS!!!~~ - 8/27/2009 6:24:48 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Ladynslave

But, as St. George is much more relaxed than say Salt Lake City or Provo as far as the mormon cult, I wouldn't worry about too much.



On this you are Mistaken.

The Mormon Influence is more strong in this town due to size and Control. There are close to the same amount of LDS Churches in this area as ther are in Salt Lake and Provo.

I would say from having been all over Utah that St. George is perhaps more persnickity when it comes to the TYPE of LDS Influence then anywhere else in Utah, except perhaps Lehi or Orderville. It is strange how it works, Salt Lake (Provo as well) due to size does not have the same kind of control from the LDS Church as St. George has. Case in point when the California Gay Marriage was overturned many Protests happened in Utah, Not just in Salt Lake but in Provo, Orem, Park City, and the like. There was NOTHING in St. George. Not even a drive by shout from a moving vehicle. I know there is a Gay Community here in St George, I never see them outside knowing that they are here and the occasional Band playing at Jazzy Java and it being said it is a Benifit but only after the show starts and not on any of the flyers.

Seriously St George is in my opinion the Epicenter of the Snob Nosed Mormon Movement, you just have to be here to understand it really is a whole different class of Mormon here.

Steel

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RE: ~~Yeah they're sisters My ASS!!!~~ - 8/27/2009 6:26:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		"yes, she is over a lot...hmmm...I guess i've never really noticed. I never thought about it until now. She does help out around the house quite a bit. I guess i should start paying her as a nanny or housekeeper, one of these days.." - laugh, smile..and walk away.

I've used this when my family started asking about our third. After they were use to having her around at functions, etc it really didn't matter anymore how the dynamic worked.

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RE: ~~Yeah they're sisters My ASS!!!~~ - 8/27/2009 7:17:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have to agree with Maitre ^
To adamantly deny that your third is a part of your relationship is hurtful to her, and of course the emotional wellbeing of your family should be more important than the neighbor's nosey questions. However, finding a way to neither deny or confirm their suspicions gives the neighbor more time to get to know your third as a person, not just an ideal they might object to. The same principal would apply if you had a friend who may have been in prison, or is openly gay... these statuses are not part of their opening introduction because they cause people to pre-judge them based on those facts, and cloud their view of the person themselves. Once they get to know a person and care about them, those labels might get revealed in confidence.

On another note though, if your girls are being openly affectionate in public perhaps some exercise in decency should be applied. I personally don't care to see teenagers making out on park benches or old people walking around with their hands on each other's asses, as I think sexually-natured contact should be saved for private moments. Instead there are countless ways to show affection in public which would easily be overlooked by unsuspecting neighbors. I personally favor some of our little secret faces, touches and the hand-squeeze that I've used with our girls in the past :p
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RE: ~~Yeah they're sisters My ASS!!!~~ - 8/27/2009 8:26:19 AM   
SteelofUtah


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ORIGINAL: MaitreAZ

On another note though, if your girls are being openly affectionate in public perhaps some exercise in decency should be applied. I personally don't care to see teenagers making out on park benches or old people walking around with their hands on each other's asses, as I think sexually-natured contact should be saved for private moments. Instead there are countless ways to show affection in public which would easily be overlooked by unsuspecting neighbors. I personally favor some of our little secret faces, touches and the hand-squeeze that I've used with our girls in the past :p
~MaitresDoux~



And this right here is where I always part ways with the similar views of others.

I will not Hide, Hinder, Stuff, or Curb my affectionate actions in front of others. I may not desire to be caught making out and engageing in heavy petting in the public park, however that is the assumption you make.

The girls hold hand, hug, and kess each other hello and good bye. It is simply OBVIOUS that they are in love with one another. I would not hinder that for one moment. As for an Excersize in Decency, let me say this. The girls aren't stripping down in front of people, they aren't playing grab ass but rather just being affectionate. I would no more ask them not to to that then I would be willing to allow someone to tell me I should not hold hands with my wife or kiss her.

It seems people are assuming to some degree that the girls are dry humpeing each other in the middle of the streets, it is certainly the case from the few provate e-mails I received on this. So far the kindest e-mail and most helpful came from someone who is actually LDS who gave me part of the LDS Belief to use as a way of deflecting questions.

I was asking for advice in how to handle the questions not in how to curb the girls affection for one another, first off I don't WANT to curb their affection I want good ways to handle when people ask questions.

The point I am making is that I am not willing to make what we do some dirty little secret, I do quiet certain conversations when they come up because they are being started at the wrong time and in the wrong place, but there is nothing wrong with how the girls interact together, just in this town two girls interacting that way draws attention and I am looking for ways of deflecting that attention when it is bold enough to present itself.

Steel

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RE: ~~Yeah they're sisters My ASS!!!~~ - 8/27/2009 11:59:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		so i have to add alittle to this, when said nieghbor first mentioned the situation she noticed, she thought it was cute and then proceded to ask me if i could help her find a girlfriend. she is married, and just wants to fulfill that desire in her. she began asking for advice on finding a girl for just her, not her husband. i did conferm our relationship, but not the D\s dynamic that is also involved.

thank you all for the advice that you have given, there has been alot of good solutions.

andi

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RE: ~~Yeah they're sisters My ASS!!!~~ - 8/27/2009 12:37:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		So. . . what you are saying, is that instead of just TWO gals dry humping on the lawn, out in front of gawd and everybody, there will be massive oragies of gals dry humping on the lawn?

Wow! 

Can't wait to visit and I hope that you are able to find her a girlfriend soon! 

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RE: ~~Yeah they're sisters My ASS!!!~~ - 8/27/2009 1:00:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		Exactly I am trying to become the only functional male in the entire complex edging out as many men as possible by flaunting my Naughty Necking Nymphs for the whole world to see and then forcing them to ask me questions which brainwashes them into changing their sexual Identity and making it easier for me to take pictures of nekkid women munching glorious box.

Eric Cartman would be proud.

Steel

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RE: ~~Yeah they're sisters My ASS!!!~~ - 8/27/2009 1:53:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		it's taken me a little bit of time to see this thread, as i don't usually have time to meander the funner sections of the CM boards....however, having found this one...and especially this last post from Sir.....

~laughs uncontrollably and falls out of the computer chair~
~turns blue and passes out~

The scary part?  i can totally see Him trying this.

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RE: ~~Yeah they're sisters My ASS!!!~~ - 8/27/2009 1:56:43 PM   
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Exactly I am trying to become the only functional male in the entire complex edging out as many men as possible by flaunting my Naught Necking Nymphs for the whole world to see and then forcing them to ask me questions which brainwashes them into changing their sexual Identity and making it easier for me to take pictures of nekkid women munching glorious box.

Eric Cartman would be proud.

Steel


Well, everyone should have a goal.  I am glad that you have found one. 

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RE: ~~Yeah they're sisters My ASS!!!~~ - 8/27/2009 8:44:07 PM   
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Exactly I am trying to become the only functional male in the entire complex edging out as many men as possible by flaunting my Naughty Necking Nymphs for the whole world to see and then forcing them to ask me questions which brainwashes them into changing their sexual Identity and making it easier for me to take pictures of nekkid women munching glorious box.

Eric Cartman would be proud.

Steel


Not just good for a < giggle > but an all-out laugh.  Thank you, Steel!  :> 
I'm not sure if anyone else has asked the question but in case not: are you in love with where you live/do you have a reason that ties you there?  If not, if you desire more progressive surroundings, why not make it so? 
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RE: ~~Yeah they're sisters My ASS!!!~~ - 8/27/2009 11:10:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		Seriously, is the location and demographic really a potential social danger to you and the girls? I lived in a pretty rural area of PA back circa 2001 when involved in a triad and had no problems (aside from the obvious stares) while walking hand-in-hand with them both publicly.

Frankly, MFF groupings are the most mainstream-ized poly structure as far as social deviant-ness goes (even just for the concept of the ephemeral threesome that most every stereotypical guy fantasizes about at least once in his life). You're all young. I can't imagine nosy neighbors (even the morally dogmatic ones) would think anything of it more than it being just a sexual "phase".


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RE: ~~Yeah they're sisters My ASS!!!~~ - 8/30/2009 2:58:07 PM   
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Is it possible to legally change your last time without marriage?

Anyone know what is required to legally change your name on a SS and Birthcertificate without actually legally getting married?

Sorry for delay in reply.

Yes, you can change your first, middle and/or last name w/o marriage. Fees vary from state to state but it isn’t expensive. In Utah, I think it is a in the Judgment or Order schedule and costs $50.00. Double check fee schedule here:
http://www.utcourts.gov/resources/forms/civil/Civil_Filing_Cover_Sheet.pdf

Changing the name on a DL or SSN only requires a copy of the court order. In Utah, that order looks like this:
http://www.utcourts.gov/resources/forms/namechange/docs/Order_Changing_Name-Adult.pdf

-=NAME CHANGE INFO (Utah)=-
Adult name change instructions:
http://www.utcourts.gov/resources/forms/namechange/instruct.asp

Name change forms list:
http://www.utcourts.gov/resources/forms/namechange

-=GUARDIANSHIP INFO=-
It looks like it costs $360.00 for guardianship. You may not be able to own her but you can legally be her keeper/guardian in the eyes of the government. It may help when acting as guardian to legally be recognized as such.

Guardianship Info, forms and guidelines here:
http://www.utcourts.gov/howto/seniors/g_and_c.asp

-=SSN=-
Changing the name on your Social Security card is easy, as mentioned above. Getting an entirely new number to go with a slave’s new life as property is a bit harder. It is not against the law to file for new SSN but it can’t be for vanity reasons.

I am not going to publish a 10 page dissertation on whether you should or should not lie on a SS form to get a new number for vanity reasons. It’s worth a google since newer policy for the SS office is to presume identity misuse and issue new numbers. Still hard but much easier than it used to be . . . it was nearly impossible w/o a thousand pieces of 3rd party evidence proving damages from misuse.


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RE: ~~Yeah they're sisters My ASS!!!~~ - 8/31/2009 4:11:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well, to avoid the morality police, perhaps a simple, "A friend we/she (depending on how much they know about how and when you and andi met) grew up with that needed a little help," would suffice and end the tremors of nonconformity.

Lady

P.S.  I have been there and always found it much less suffocating in Mormon morality than Salt Lake or Provo.  But it could just be that I had learned to avoid them better by then.  What you are experiencing is exactly why I REFUSE to ever move anywhere in Utah.


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RE: ~~Yeah they're sisters My ASS!!!~~ - 8/31/2009 7:25:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		What do I do? Be thankful that I live in London where most folks don't care and if someone did 'ask' then "and it is your buisiness how?" would be the end of their line of questioning.

To be honest, flat sharing in this city of overpriced accomidation is so endemic that nobody would think twice and even if they did realise, nobody would care.


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