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RE: Female slaves Headshaved - 8/24/2009 2:52:38 PM

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Two remarks:

When I entered the parachutiste (paratroopers), we were all shorn to 5 mm . A rather stressful experience made to make us feel different from who we were before. I think it worked rather well and was part of the program to reprogram us. I could have objected, but when you agree to jump off a perfectly well functionning plane... well the rest is simply decoration. Same again at the officer's school, after that I kept my hair to the minimum, until my duties ordered otherwise. So cutting the hairs has a institutional strong meaning.

At the liberation of France by the Allied , the mob did often shave the head of women who had been sleeping with the enemy (and were otherwise not liked in their place). Which makes me still sick in retrospective.

Shaving the other side, or even better epilating it, seems to me almost a must ;-°

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RE: Female slaves Headshaved - 8/24/2009 6:37:46 PM

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Mark, I checked your profile and it says nothing about you whatsoever. It says nothing about what you're looking for except that she be female. The general impression that I get is that you have a fantasy about chaining up a girl 24/7 and no experience whatsoever in Dominating.

You win the intranet police prize!

To get back on topic, yes, I too have always been an advocate of female head shaving, both in theory and aesthetics.

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RE: Female slaves Headshaved - 8/24/2009 9:06:44 PM

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My mind is having difficulty balancing the comparison of group conditioning, and individual ‘soul searching’.

Also, noting the difference of meaning between male and female head shaving throughout history.

The fact that there are those out there that believe the two are comparable, is the biggest reason I hesitate to say yes, without having someone specific to undergo the process with; otherwise, I suspect it would be a very secluded path… more so then the one I’m on now.

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RE: Female slaves Headshaved - 8/24/2009 11:07:30 PM

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Hard to go to the grocery store like that.

Some of us don't need theatrical stuff to be broken. In fact many of us would prefer not to be broken or taken to this artificial level by force, by inculcating Stockholm Syndrome.

For us, deep trust and vulnerability would not have happened had he tried something like that. Being told never to darken my doorstep again would have been the result.

But then he gained my love, trust and submission the old fashioned way - he earned it.

Well, there we have it: submissive female incarnate, right? Uh huh.

What makes this "theatrical" or "artificial"? And why the condescending attitude? Is it really necessary? Unbelievable.

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RE: Female slaves Headshaved - 8/25/2009 12:48:22 AM

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Unbelievable.

Why unbelievable? Des has strong opinions and states them plainly. Whether you agree or not, every member here has a right to their opinion on any given subject, and to post that opinion, no matter their orientation. Your snide opening remark says more about you that it does about her, and negates the rest of your post, at least for me. Would you be so quick to chide a Dom or Domme who made the same post? I suspect not.

For myself, I have no need or desire to be "broken down" and "remade", and would reject any Dom who stated this as his intention.
Eyesopened stated it perfectly:

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As I mentioned in another thread, I have not changed who I am, I have changed how I am.

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RE: Female slaves Headshaved - 8/25/2009 1:27:32 AM

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Read the first page, not the rest... but here's my response (even if I know the thread is intended towards the femmesub types, but ask Ma'am and She would tell you i am more girlie than She is).

As a guy (yep, i checked), i am of the gender most likely to get the cueball up top by either nature or design; so supposedly shaving my head would not be quite such a major issue for me than the ladies. After all, many very successful men have knoblike noggins without having any backlash.

That said, no shaving my head to break me down or to prove my submission; not going to happen. i shaved my head for Uncle Sam and for charity (may do the latter again someday) but not for a relationship. i love my hair and I have a funny shaped head underneath. Too bad i'll never be real or true enough for you.

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RE: Female slaves Headshaved - 8/25/2009 4:18:33 AM

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Nope.

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RE: Female slaves Headshaved - 8/25/2009 5:25:08 AM

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I think that taking away all the slave's clothing and shaving their heads is a good why to remove all the barriers.

My question is, would you do this?

Clothes, yes, at least at home--but sometimes clothing is necessary (cooking, for example, or heading outdoors).

Hair, no. A girl's hair is beautiful, especially long hair. The hair stays. Besides, it's handy to gather in my hand, pull her close...

As for your reason--no way is something so simple going to "remove all the barriers." Some things take time and patience.

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RE: Female slaves Headshaved - 8/25/2009 5:28:07 AM

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ORIGINAL: AnimusRex
...Hell, submissive women WANT to surrender, and CRAVE obeying...

Wow! So I'm not the only one that noticed that? Honestly I read lots of posts on collarme from both doms and subs and it would seem that particular point is forgotten.

Amen. And those who haven't noticed need to look at themselves, not for slaves.

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RE: Female slaves Headshaved - 8/25/2009 5:38:44 AM

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I think that taking away all the slave's clothing and shaving their heads is a good why to remove all the barriers.

My question is, would you do this?

As for your reason--no way is something so simple going to "remove all the barriers." Some things take time and patience.

I think you may be underestimating the impact this would have on many women (or men).
This is not to say that I disagree with your preference to keep her hair...I like it myself for the same reasons you mention. But the psychological effect of shaving and stripping cannot be overlooked. It is a VERY powerful and for many quite profound experience.

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RE: Female slaves Headshaved - 8/25/2009 5:40:51 AM

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Have you heard of punks Apex?

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RE: Female slaves Headshaved - 8/25/2009 5:45:20 AM

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I think you may be underestimating the impact this would have on many women (or men).
This is not to say that I disagree with your preference to keep her hair...I like it myself for the same reasons you mention. But the psychological effect of shaving and stripping cannot be overlooked.

There's a difference, Apex, between "removing all barriers" and recognizing a psychological effect.

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RE: Female slaves Headshaved - 8/25/2009 6:07:34 AM

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The "removing all barriers" idea reminds me of a hot scene from V for Vendetta. What a great mindfuck. But still, i'm keeping the locks.

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RE: Female slaves Headshaved - 8/25/2009 6:12:55 AM

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

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I'm sorry for all the off-topic responses to your post. Gasp -- maybe you're not "experienced" enough for this website. (If my reply were to resemble the others, this is where I'd add some completely irrelevant remark that's more about me and my particularities then about your question.)

I think you misunderstood me. I did not want to imply that he was too inexperienced for the site itself, but to own a slave.

Owning a slave is in some ways analogous to raising a child. You have complete 100% control of another human being and are responsible for his or her wellbeing.

Picture a childless couple about to adopt. I would expect them to ask lots of questions from their friends who already have children. I would also expect them to spend lots of time with families with children and perhaps even babysit their kids. There may be seminars on parenting given by the adoption agency. Of course, there are numerous books an childraising as well. The more they study, the more they learn, and also the more I would consider them to have a desire to do the job right.

Similarly, someone who wants a 24/7 slavegirl should spend their time learning what the hell they're doing. This would involve attending local functions, meeting others who live as Master/Mistress and slave, asking questions, trying things out with subs, reading up, and learning.

Red flags:

1. OP's first post talks about steps he wants to take with his new slave, and he hasn't even met her. He seems to not understand that a relationship consists of people, and that the rules depend on what works for them.
2. He talks about breaking a slave down and rebuilding them. Without having any experience.
3. His profile shows a pic of a fetish model instead of a pic of him.
4. His profile does not describe himself or the woman he wants.
5. His profile does not describe the activities he expects from his slave. Does he want a service slave? A sex slave? Body worship?
6. He states that the slave will be unclothed at all times at home. He is unacquainted with the menstrual cycle or else simply hasn't thought things through.

Basically, he has a fantasy and no clue about the responsibility he would bear as an Owner.

Let's be real here. Most people DO NOT do all these things you mention before they have a child. They all sound like great ideas...but rarely are they done. Even if you say 50 million people did it, I can point to a billion who did not. Thsi being the case i cannot agree that everyone needs to go seek the advice and opinion of all these other people before they choose to enter a 24/7 D/s relationship. The sub/slave is an adult as well, not a newborn infant. For some specific activities advice and practice/supervision are essential, but none of that is necessary for the basics of a D/s relationship. Just like every other relationship they will all be unique and need the efforts of both people to work. BDSM is NOT the umbrella that Dominance and Submission fall under. BDSM is a kink. D/s in the way I refer to it is like being born with red hair or green eyes. No one needs to go to a munch and meet a bunch of people who have BDSM kinks to learn about TPE.

The OP is guilty of having a less than great profile...just like half the profiles on the site.
A lot of people have been quick to hop on the bandwagon criticizing everything about this persons post and profile who would also pitch a fit if they were criticized for their own preferences. It is one thing to say "Yes I would" or "No I wouldn't" and even say why but it is quite another to say you wouldn't and then judge him because he would.

I would not personally shave my girl bald above the neck, but I won't presume to know the OP's level of experience simply because he has a preference that isn't practical for most people.

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RE: Female slaves Headshaved - 8/25/2009 6:18:01 AM

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I find it appealing from an objectification point of view. Probably it could have a good effect on some and a negative effect on others and the dominant would have to be able to recognise this in the individual. As an idea it can be suggested but nobody should ever be forced to do anything hence people talking about being forced to shave their head and the consequences of that are irrelevant because this isn’t the deal anyway people that do it consent to do it. Similarly nobody points out the psychological effects of sticking needles in someone non-consensually.

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RE: Female slaves Headshaved - 8/25/2009 6:18:21 AM

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Have you heard of punks Apex?

Of course. I didn't say it would be the same for everyone. What do you think the effect would be to someone attached to their looks and how people see them?

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RE: Female slaves Headshaved - 8/25/2009 6:19:52 AM

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Thing is Full, the OP asked if us sub folk would do it. Its therefore little to do with the nature of consent and more about the fact that most women wont. Sure some will, but the OP was asking for specific responses.

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I have yet to meet anyone not attached to their looks and how others see them, punks are equally as interested in that.

< Message edited by LillyoftheVally -- 8/25/2009 6:20:54 AM >

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RE: Female slaves Headshaved - 8/25/2009 6:21:54 AM

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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I think you may be underestimating the impact this would have on many women (or men).
This is not to say that I disagree with your preference to keep her hair...I like it myself for the same reasons you mention. But the psychological effect of shaving and stripping cannot be overlooked.

There's a difference, Apex, between "removing all barriers" and recognizing a psychological effect.

I never said there wasn't. Your statement really seemed to trivialize it though, at least from my point of view, which isn't always right of course.

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RE: Female slaves Headshaved - 8/25/2009 6:25:24 AM

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ORIGINAL: LillyoftheVally

Thing is Full, the OP asked if us sub folk would do it. Its therefore little to do with the nature of consent and more about the fact that most women wont. Sure some will, but the OP was asking for specific responses.

Edit to reply to Apex

I have yet to meet anyone not attached to their looks and how others see them, punks are equally as interested in that.

Yes but you know exactly what I meant. People attached to being seen in a traditional or mainstream sense. The fact that some people in subcultures do extreme things for the visual effect it has does not in any way change the accuracy of my statement. I never said it would have the same effect on everyone.

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RE: Female slaves Headshaved - 8/25/2009 6:36:08 AM

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Thing is Full, the OP asked if us sub folk would do it. Its therefore little to do with the nature of consent and more about the fact that most women wont. Sure some will, but the OP was asking for specific responses.

He has asked how many people would enjoy his particular fantasy I didn't see him mention forcing anyone to follow it, just him testing the water as to how many identify with it or would willingly allow it.

it deserves only a yes or no answer reading anything more into it is pointless.

If the op had been speaking of rape fantasies would people be going on about the negative effect of rape?

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