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Yoga - 9/5/2009 5:49:21 AM

Manawyddan

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It's occurred to me recently that many yoga poses resemble some standard Gorean poses. Also, the whoe atmosphere of the yoga class ... an instructor guiding her students through a variety of poses ... has some resonance of Gorean training.

Any Goreans take yoga and had similar thoughts?

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RE: Yoga - 9/5/2009 7:30:45 AM

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It's occurred to me recently that many yoga poses resemble some standard Gorean poses. Also, the whoe atmosphere of the yoga class ... an instructor guiding her students through a variety of poses ... has some resonance of Gorean training.

Hello Manawyddan,

Although some of the postures are similar, the similarity is coincidental. The purpose is entirely different. Yoga, loosely "to unite," is meant to quiet the mind and release tension portions of the body, allowing a union of mind/body/spirit and a free flowing of prana (energy) throughout that unity of being. Slave positions are meant to well-display a girl's body, emphasizing her sexuality, and for convenience in binding, whipping and disciplining the girl. Training is much more her psychological acceptance that she is a slave, and releasing the complete, sexual that she naturally is in full realization.

Yes, some may come along and claim that awakening kundalini is the same and construct elaborate frameworks to force the comparison, but that will remain just imagination. They are two distinct and separate practices.

Zen instructors sometimes strike their students, the sudden blow a tool in awakening the recipient. This isn't like whipping a girl either. The girl is to learn and accept and embrace that she is a slave. The Zen student seeks samari--a very different kind of enlightenment.

Also, Yoga and Zen students aren't expecting to be sexually used at will by their instructors. Nor are they bound or chained. The slave girl is indeed so bound, and is a sexual object to be used at will for the gratification of whomever controlling her.

Live well,

Tim

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RE: Yoga - 9/6/2009 8:45:03 PM

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Regardless of intent, any physical similarity can easily be accounted for by noting that a human being generally has a certain set of limbs with a certain range of motion and a certain way for the muscles to work. As such, movements and postures that are honed over time will tend to cover the same ground. Most likely, Lange took at least some of his ideas for the positions from such sources, selecting them based on their aesthetics and practicality. I've seen a lot of women use some of the postures intuitively for certain tasks, and I've seen some art depicting some postures, so I'm inclined to think that it comes down to selecting what appeals from a wide exposure to real world body dynamics.

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RE: Yoga - 9/8/2009 11:32:07 AM

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Greetings

I am interested in Martial Arts and I also dance Belly dance and I do ritual work, many of the movements from all three are the same, that of course can speak of a similarity, but it more often is like Aswad says, that there are a set number of combinations of positions and movements our body can make, what makes a system unique is how we put them all together and what they mean, and the meaning of Yoga positions and Gorean slave positions are very different.

From a Atheist or at least non spiritual point of view however, where it is the movements them self in Yoga who creates the health benefits not the Spirituality behind them, I suspect the Gorean slave positions can be said to have the same health benefits as Yoga. I however do not believe this. Yoga is more then just movements. Just like the slave positions are more then just positions, there is a mental and spiritual component which is very unique.

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