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Gorean in the 21st Century - 9/21/2009 4:37:26 AM   
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Hello one and all
I was hoping someone give me a little insight into the day to day activities of the individuals that practice gorean customs

Can I assume that your day to day activities are similar to other parts of society? You get up in the morning, go out to work, come home, eat dinner, amuse yourselves with evening activities, eventually go to sleep and wake up the next morning to do it all over again? I know it sounds silly ad I am going to assume that you do until told otherwise. You go to movies, sporting events groceries stores etc, etc etc
Do you have social get tog ethers with people within your area or large events with people coming in from all over the country?
Are there activities from the gorean books that you are able to do in this period of time?

Thank you for all that responses


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RE: Gorean in the 21st Century - 9/21/2009 6:28:03 AM   
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Some days I'm so busy I don't even get to ride the tarn.

Activities from the Gor books? You mean living in accord with my nature? Yeah, I manage to do that.



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RE: Gorean in the 21st Century - 9/21/2009 6:57:27 AM   
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Hiya Acer,

That is pretty much it for most everyone. A few may own a slave, and utilize some Gorean customs for them (positions, dress, etc.). There are a few Gorean gatherings across the country, but they pretty much seem like a group of friends getting together, and the females preparing food and such. Some may have an actual Home Stone , and even those that do not have an actual representation still believe in the ideals that a Home Stome represents.

In the day to day activities it is more of the philosphies and moralities found in the series that many people live.

Live well,
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ORIGINAL: Acer49

Hello one and all
I was hoping someone give me a little insight into the day to day activities of the individuals that practice gorean customs

Can I assume that your day to day activities are similar to other parts of society? You get up in the morning, go out to work, come home, eat dinner, amuse yourselves with evening activities, eventually go to sleep and wake up the next morning to do it all over again? I know it sounds silly ad I am going to assume that you do until told otherwise. You go to movies, sporting events groceries stores etc, etc etc
Do you have social get tog ethers with people within your area or large events with people coming in from all over the country?
Are there activities from the gorean books that you are able to do in this period of time?

Thank you for all that responses



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RE: Gorean in the 21st Century - 9/21/2009 7:48:53 AM   
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Ride the tarn? Been trying to get mine down a few pounds so it can manage the mountain peaks around here, but there's just so many tasty neighbours, so it's supposed to be on a special diet. Between repelling hordes of Kuri, duelling with beurocrats and snatching wenches from the church rooftop, who has time to deal with dieting the tarn? I'm going to try slipping it a laxative every time it eats a neighbour, now. The domesticated sleen is trying to teach it to chase its own tail, too. Maybe that will work. Beats that oversized hamster wheel idea. I should've known that was doomed to fail miserably once the axle started creaking.

Seriously, though, the little things may be worth covering, too.

Things like trading or going to market instead of the mall, at least some of the time. Haggling for fun and profit. Appreciating the fairer sex. Raising awareness in others (if we're right in that much of what we're about is intrinsic, it should be a matter of awakening it in others, not convincing them of anything). Taking time out to enjoy life and nature (when's the last time you saw a shooting star, watched a particularly nice sunset, or successfully approached and interacted with a non-domesticated animal?). To exercise more. Picking garbage or directing people who toss it to the trash bin. Repairing things when possible, i.e. limiting the resource footprint. Acquiring skills that are tied to basic self sufficiency. Fostering pride in accomplishment and the accomplishments of groups one identifies with. Striving to get better at all that one does.

And how about the ones that are more likely to be seen as negative? When is the last time one used intimidation or violence for some purpose? Who has one alienated by one's worldview and/or actions deriving from that? What conflicts, abrasion and friction have been perceived by others as a result of behaving in a manner that is in line with one's worldview and nature? In short, how has our actions reflected Gorean culture, rather than yet another subculture with a Gorean lifestyle that is otherwise immersed in the "prevailing prejudices of one's social environment?" As has been asked before, if we were accused of being Gorean, would there be evidence enough to convict?

Let's turn this thread around.

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RE: Gorean in the 21st Century - 9/21/2009 7:58:06 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Some days I'm so busy I don't even get to ride the tarn.

Activities from the Gor books? You mean living in accord with my nature? Yeah, I manage to do that.



something that is unique to you, something that is neither done by vanilla or lifestylers. something like say you were to mediate for an hour, or nabe you spend a set time each day reading books. like a ritual. A tam? I think I have that word, I will have to check Your nature? as opposed to set of rules or policies that all must follow? From what I have been told, you have a few core ideas, but you each pretty much follow your own path thank you for your reply

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RE: Gorean in the 21st Century - 9/21/2009 10:15:03 AM   
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The trouble, Acer, is that you're asking a question you can't understand, as you don't know enough about what makes one Gorean to understand the answer.

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RE: Gorean in the 21st Century - 9/21/2009 12:37:48 PM   
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Greetings Acer....

I will make it a bit easier on you by analogy. In your posting substitute "follower of Confucius" every time you use the word Gorean. If you have to, go find out what that really means. Here is a quick link to make it easier on you. Note...quick, not the best. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confucius

After you do that, come back and reread the answers you get here. If you understand the connection I am making for you, you will have answered your own question and cleared up your understanding and mostly misunderstanding of Goreans.

Be well....

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RE: Gorean in the 21st Century - 9/21/2009 1:25:48 PM   
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I think the Gorean section on a philosophy website might get fewer questions like this, than the Gorean section on a BDSM website.

I think it's a fair enough question on here - CM is a BDSM site, not a philosophy site. So the people who come over here are less interested in the philosophical aspects of Gor (hence why they aren't browsing a philosophy site) and more interested in the hands on aspects. In other words, what is it you do that makes you different from me? And what is it you all do, as a general rule, that makes this board separate from the rest.

Truly I have never seen a dominant man posting on collarme that he has no honor, that he goes against his own nature, or anything like that. If you believe the words of men on the internet, they're all honorable, true to themselves, strong providers for their family, in other words they're all Goreans who just haven't read the books. Well then what bloody good is it to have this board then? Surely the division is something more than one's literary catalogue.

Acer I'll answer your questions so long as you keep in mind I'm not a Gorean, but I did go to a Gorean gathering a few months back.

1.Do you have social get tog ethers with people within your area or large events with people coming in from all over the country? Yes. The one I was invited to was at somebody's home, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were open parties in a rented space. That second part I'm just guessing on though.

2. Are there activities from the gorean books that you are able to do in this period of time? I saw quite a few things straight out of the books. The women socialized mostly based on status (FW played games and went out with each other, slaves hung out and chatted in their downtime) and while, say, the FW were supervising the slaves in the kitchen they were definitely friendly, there was a clear distinction of who was who. The men socialized a lot with the men, golfing or sitting out back talking and having a beer, and it's kind of funny that men and women really talk about such completely different things when they're not in mixed company. The slaves served all the meals, and waited by the table kneeling silently and ready to get anyone something if they wanted it, then they cleared the plates and could eat themselves. They didn't sit on furniture either. Oh and the slave owned by the host and hostess was the "first girl" for the gathering, just like in the books. Which I have to say is a very effective way to run things. When I first heard the "first girl" term I thought of it as the favourite or something, but it's really like, say, middle management. The first girl had to run everything, the FW would give her a list of things to get done, and she'd have to make sure it was done. And there was a lot to do.

Our host had a homestone, and he left the preparation for the gathering up to his FC while he worked for the week leading up to it. I'd say that division of labor is pretty Gorean - the man makes sure things are provided, the woman makes sure things are in order.

The main "activity from the books" that was done at this time would be the FC ceremony. I got to witness two at this gathering, one was a new couple who was doing their first FC ceremony, the other was a couple who was renewing their companionship for the 20-something time. It was a lovely ceremony to watch. And the wine was great.

That's another thing...these Goreans can out drink me any day. LOL. Was there anything in the books about being able to enjoy good beer because I was definitely out of my depth in that regard


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RE: Gorean in the 21st Century - 9/21/2009 2:49:38 PM   
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Truly I have never seen a dominant man posting on collarme that he has no honor, that he goes against his own nature, or anything like that. If you believe the words of men on the internet, they're all honorable, true to themselves, strong providers for their family, in other words they're all Goreans who just haven't read the books. Well then what bloody good is it to have this board then? Surely the division is something more than one's literary catalogue.


Hi Bella

what i have learned is that, while what i snipped from your post is indeed true, how each man defines those things can be vastly different.

gotta love those differences

~grins

well wishes

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RE: Gorean in the 21st Century - 9/21/2009 3:04:39 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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Truly I have never seen a dominant man posting on collarme that he has no honor, that he goes against his own nature, or anything like that. If you believe the words of men on the internet, they're all honorable, true to themselves, strong providers for their family, in other words they're all Goreans who just haven't read the books. Well then what bloody good is it to have this board then? Surely the division is something more than one's literary catalogue.


Hi Bella

what i have learned is that, while what i snipped from your post is indeed true, how each man defines those things can be vastly different.

gotta love those differences

~grins

well wishes

tazzy


Hey tazzy,

Oh for sure. I think there are differences even among Goreans. If, say, Caesar's burning of Alexandria happened on Gor, the Warriors would consider it their honor-bound duty to fight, but I wonder if the Scribes would consider their primary duty to save as many ancient scrolls from the Great Library before it burned down.

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RE: Gorean in the 21st Century - 9/21/2009 7:29:31 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Acer49

Hello one and all
I was hoping someone give me a little insight into the day to day activities of the individuals that practice gorean customs

Can I assume that your day to day activities are similar to other parts of society? You get up in the morning, go out to work, come home, eat dinner, amuse yourselves with evening activities, eventually go to sleep and wake up the next morning to do it all over again? I know it sounds silly ad I am going to assume that you do until told otherwise. You go to movies, sporting events groceries stores etc, etc etc
Do you have social get tog ethers with people within your area or large events with people coming in from all over the country?
Are there activities from the gorean books that you are able to do in this period of time?

Thank you for all that responses



Acer,

To me, being Gorean is first and foremost about the values you hold, and only incidentally about customs and activities.

For example, the first Gorean value mentioned in the books is personal sovereignty (page 27 of the e-book version of Tarnsman of Gor). For my own use, I have paraphrased the idea as "I am sovereign over my own life. I am free to make choices for myself, and to accept responsibility for the consequences of the choices I make." As a Gorean free man I try to live in accordance with that value on a moment to moment basis. I think it is safe to say that the majority of Gorean free men and women who post here share a similiar value and try to live by it. I think it is also safe to say that the majority of 21st Century Americans do not hold that value, but probably one that is more like "The system is against me, so I can rarely make choices for myself, and besides, it is all someone elses fault/responsiblity anyway."

Because my Gorean values are important to me, I have written out a list of them, and then chosen goals for myself to move me in the direction of living my values. Each morning at 5 am as I drink my first cup of coffee, I review my values and goals, and make choices about what I am going to accomplish during the day.

Another value that Goreans hold is strength. There are different kinds of strength - mental, physical, financial, etc. Each day I strive to develop my strength in each area. The second major activity of my day, after I have made choices about how the day will unfold, is to workout which definitely develops my physical strength.

After my workout, I shower, dress, get my son ready for his day, and eat breakfast. Then I drive to work. A person's work is very important to a Gorean. It is not just what he begrudingly does to earn money so he can enjoy his non-work time. Rather, he takes pride in and identifies with his work, and strives to do it ethically and excellently because it reflects on his honor and on the honor of others who do the same work. My work is very much a Gorean activity for me.

As a free Gorean man, I take my place in the order of nature. In the privacy of my home Emee wears my collar and is my slave, even to the whip if she is disobedient or displeasing. And yes, at the end of the day I order her to light the Ravishment Lamp and she eagerly runs to do so.

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RE: Gorean in the 21st Century - 9/21/2009 11:12:49 PM   
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Greetings, Elisabella,
I've never seen a mainstream philosophical site with a Gorean section! Personally, since many people have maintained that they are Gorean by philosophy/ethics, and the slavery/etc. has nothing to do with it, I've been very curious about how they as individuals apply it to the decisions they make in life. Of course, that will be different for every individual, just as various philosophical schools of thought, faiths, political leanings, and so forth influence people, whether vanilla or kinky. I love talking with my friends (and the occasional random stranger) about stuff like this! Frankly, I'm not interested in becoming Gorean, any more than I want to become a Nihilist, a hard-core right-wing Republican, a Buddhist, or a Wiccan. I may read a bit about any/all of those things, but I'm far more interested in their individual experience, how it changes *them*! I have read 3 of the Gor books, and frankly, was extremely *unimpressed* by much of the philosophy and ethics they depicted. Kidnapping, raping, and killing women because they were strong enough or sneaky enough to manage it seems like acts of bullies, not people to emulate. In coming here and reading the threads, and reading posts by Goreans in other subsections of the forums, there seem to be many intelligent, strong, interesting people here. I am interested in what drew *them* to identify as Gorean, and the impact it has made on their life. It's hard to ask, though, as the questions are frequently answered by "RTFM," which tells me nothing I'm interested in knowing. I want the personal, not the general, but not to the point of being nosy, or asking them to share anything they are uncomfortable with posting on the public boards. So, I particularly appreciate your sharing your experience! A couple of other people have been kind enough to do so in past threads, as well.

Greetings, Trevalyan,
I agree that some people here in America have an absolutely deplorable attitude in that respect! I just had a conversation last night with some friends on the subject (they aren't Gorean, though). I also admire strength of all sorts, and strive to cultivate it in myself. I think it's important to apply strength in positive ways. Both strength and sovereignty are valued by many people who aren't Gorean. How do you see your development of them as different from what you pursued before you read the Gorean books and adopted that philosophy? How do you see them as different in Goreans as compared to non-Goreans who also value them, and strive to meet their goals in those areas, if you don't mind answering?

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RE: Gorean in the 21st Century - 9/21/2009 11:22:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Elisabella

I think the Gorean section on a philosophy website might get fewer questions like this, than the Gorean section on a BDSM website.


Bingo.

quote:

Surely the division is something more than one's literary catalogue.


It has been argued that this is indeed a defining element.

I've argued to the contrary, and will not rehash the arguments here.

quote:

Our host had a homestone, and he left the preparation for the gathering up to his FC while he worked for the week leading up to it. I'd say that division of labor is pretty Gorean - the man makes sure things are provided, the woman makes sure things are in order.


That's a fair summary of a couple of distinctive points, though not sufficient to be defining. The Home Stone, however, is a reasonably exclusive concept in its cultural form, if not nearly as exclusive in its conceptual form. The FC thing, too, is somewhat exclusive, but not defining, as many cultures have featured marriage as a contract, and some still do, while others are reviving the idea (Norway, for instance, is moving in that direction). Trevelyan points out some things, but those aren't exclusive or sufficient to be defining, either.

I noted elsewhere that perhaps the most defining, and most exclusive, point is that Goreans don't conquer themselves. That is to say, innate nature is, in general, revered and not opposed. Struggling to fit the human animal into the human social constructs is defining of most cultures I have encountered, often for religious reasons. In the Gorean philosophy- the way I read it, anyway- the human animal is not to be shackled, as it is a part of a whole whose primary imperative is to be free (not in an evolutionary sense, of course, but from the perspective of Gorean values).

I am also fairly certain that no other specific trait is entirely exclusive. The full set may be. For the most part, the core of the philosophy is objectivism with a naturalistic and primitivistic bent, i.e. objectivism adapted to humans, rather than a notion of humans adapting to objectivism, and sans the notion of not compelling things from others that is put forth as a utopian law in Atlas Shrugged, which comes down to recognizing conquest and other drives that are contrary to it. "The rest," as the rabbi said, "is commentary."

Still, commentary is all that seperates shi'ite from sunni, so the devil is in the details.

Health,
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RE: Gorean in the 21st Century - 9/22/2009 12:12:04 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Trevelyan


quote:

ORIGINAL: Acer49

Hello one and all
I was hoping someone give me a little insight into the day to day activities of the individuals that practice gorean customs

Can I assume that your day to day activities are similar to other parts of society? You get up in the morning, go out to work, come home, eat dinner, amuse yourselves with evening activities, eventually go to sleep and wake up the next morning to do it all over again? I know it sounds silly ad I am going to assume that you do until told otherwise. You go to movies, sporting events groceries stores etc, etc etc
Do you have social get tog ethers with people within your area or large events with people coming in from all over the country?
Are there activities from the gorean books that you are able to do in this period of time?

Thank you for all that responses



Acer,

To me, being Gorean is first and foremost about the values you hold, and only incidentally about customs and activities.

For example, the first Gorean value mentioned in the books is personal sovereignty (page 27 of the e-book version of Tarnsman of Gor). For my own use, I have paraphrased the idea as "I am sovereign over my own life. I am free to make choices for myself, and to accept responsibility for the consequences of the choices I make." As a Gorean free man I try to live in accordance with that value on a moment to moment basis. I think it is safe to say that the majority of Gorean free men and women who post here share a similiar value and try to live by it. I think it is also safe to say that the majority of 21st Century Americans do not hold that value, but probably one that is more like "The system is against me, so I can rarely make choices for myself, and besides, it is all someone elses fault/responsiblity anyway."

Because my Gorean values are important to me, I have written out a list of them, and then chosen goals for myself to move me in the direction of living my values. Each morning at 5 am as I drink my first cup of coffee, I review my values and goals, and make choices about what I am going to accomplish during the day.

Another value that Goreans hold is strength. There are different kinds of strength - mental, physical, financial, etc. Each day I strive to develop my strength in each area. The second major activity of my day, after I have made choices about how the day will unfold, is to workout which definitely develops my physical strength.

After my workout, I shower, dress, get my son ready for his day, and eat breakfast. Then I drive to work. A person's work is very important to a Gorean. It is not just what he begrudingly does to earn money so he can enjoy his non-work time. Rather, he takes pride in and identifies with his work, and strives to do it ethically and excellently because it reflects on his honor and on the honor of others who do the same work. My work is very much a Gorean activity for me.

As a free Gorean man, I take my place in the order of nature. In the privacy of my home Emee wears my collar and is my slave, even to the whip if she is disobedient or displeasing. And yes, at the end of the day I order her to light the Ravishment Lamp and she eagerly runs to do so.

Trevelyan

thank you for your response

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RE: Gorean in the 21st Century - 9/22/2009 12:35:22 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

The trouble, Acer, is that you're asking a question you can't understand, as you don't know enough about what makes one Gorean to understand the answer.

quote:

FC ceremony


I am more than willing to listen

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RE: Gorean in the 21st Century - 9/22/2009 12:38:01 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Elisabella

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I think the Gorean section on a philosophy website might get fewer questions like this, than the Gorean section on a BDSM website.

I think it's a fair enough question on here - CM is a BDSM site, not a philosophy site. So the people who come over here are less interested in the philosophical aspects of Gor (hence why they aren't browsing a philosophy site) and more interested in the hands on aspects. In other words, what is it you do that makes you different from me? And what is it you all do, as a general rule, that makes this board separate from the rest.

Truly I have never seen a dominant man posting on collarme that he has no honor, that he goes against his own nature, or anything like that. If you believe the words of men on the internet, they're all honorable, true to themselves, strong providers for their family, in other words they're all Goreans who just haven't read the books. Well then what bloody good is it to have this board then? Surely the division is something more than one's literary catalogue.

Acer I'll answer your questions so long as you keep in mind I'm not a Gorean, but I did go to a Gorean gathering a few months back.

1.Do you have social get tog ethers with people within your area or large events with people coming in from all over the country? Yes. The one I was invited to was at somebody's home, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were open parties in a rented space. That second part I'm just guessing on though.

2. Are there activities from the gorean books that you are able to do in this period of time? I saw quite a few things straight out of the books. The women socialized mostly based on status (FW played games and went out with each other, slaves hung out and chatted in their downtime) and while, say, the FW were supervising the slaves in the kitchen they were definitely friendly, there was a clear distinction of who was who. The men socialized a lot with the men, golfing or sitting out back talking and having a beer, and it's kind of funny that men and women really talk about such completely different things when they're not in mixed company. The slaves served all the meals, and waited by the table kneeling silently and ready to get anyone something if they wanted it, then they cleared the plates and could eat themselves. They didn't sit on furniture either. Oh and the slave owned by the host and hostess was the "first girl" for the gathering, just like in the books. Which I have to say is a very effective way to run things. When I first heard the "first girl" term I thought of it as the favourite or something, but it's really like, say, middle management. The first girl had to run everything, the FW would give her a list of things to get done, and she'd have to make sure it was done. And there was a lot to do.

Our host had a homestone, and he left the preparation for the gathering up to his FC while he worked for the week leading up to it. I'd say that division of labor is pretty Gorean - the man makes sure things are provided, the woman makes sure things are in order.

The main "activity from the books" that was done at this time would be the FC ceremony. I got to witness two at this gathering, one was a new couple who was doing their first FC ceremony, the other was a couple who was renewing their companionship for the 20-something time. It was a lovely ceremony to watch. And the wine was great.

That's another thing...these Goreans can out drink me any day. LOL. Was there anything in the books about being able to enjoy good beer because I was definitely out of my depth in that regard


Thank you Miss, anything you add is appreciated

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RE: Gorean in the 21st Century - 9/22/2009 12:39:05 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Malkinius

Greetings Acer....

I will make it a bit easier on you by analogy. In your posting substitute "follower of Confucius" every time you use the word Gorean. If you have to, go find out what that really means. Here is a quick link to make it easier on you. Note...quick, not the best. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confucius

After you do that, come back and reread the answers you get here. If you understand the connection I am making for you, you will have answered your own question and cleared up your understanding and mostly misunderstanding of Goreans.

Be well....

Malkinius


Thank you I will do so

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