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ORIGINAL: Arturas

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ORIGINAL: Phoenixpower

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ORIGINAL: Arturas

• She was 'tammystarm' for years here. Guess that means you lack the correct information. Guess that means this was a one liner cheap shot you made.
• She is "so called" because I called her that but that does not mean it has to be taken seriously? I've never asked anyone to take that seriously. I've insisted on nothing. She is what she is, like Gor. Accept it or not. So you have no reason to say what you did.

Arrogant.

And so you think just because she was "tammystarm" for years here means that "I" was involved with her for years??? LOL Believe it or not I do have a live outside of collarme and the last reason I joined it was your Mistress... I was stating the contact "I" had with her...and just because she is here since years does not mean I was involved with her apart from the date range I stated as involvement to me means emailing each other As otherwise, according to your theory, I am involved with everyone even on this thread since two years...wow... So take your cheap shot and continue to spread it as you like to do it, but don't accuse others of doing it when others just lay out the facts.

Greetings, Have you asked her not to call you 'sweetie'? It's really not my concern but I feel your pain, I really do. I still am perplexed as to what has that got to do with addressing me improperly? This is a strange line of conversation. Perhaps you need sleep or you should take your meds. Be well Arturas

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ORIGINAL: Hiskajirah

Evening beautiful ally

Have I ever told you how much I appreciate you?
~smiles
One does appreciate you very much.


Warmest wishes,
~twinkle

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ORIGINAL: allyC

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ORIGINAL: Arturas

It is sleazy to demonize me for passing along the truth. Very well, check the 'kajirae' on this website. Only about 2 percent are classic kajirae. You can't find that many because the majority hide their true looks or you cannot find one. The herd that passes gas here are not kajirae and hide behind avatars anyway.

I laugh.

Star "walks and talks kajira" to Masters. She does not "speak like a kajira" here because people are role playing when they do so and we don't role play. Being 'Gorean' here pretending you know that person behind the fake picture or even worse, that fake avatar ninja warrior picture, and letting your real kajira suck up to a fat pig of a loser behind fake pictures is not acceptable to me. What about that do you not understand? Fine, suck up to losers. The more they ask you to observe online role play protocol the bigger the loser. You should "speak kajira" to the fakes. I discern them. I laugh.

 Greetings to you, Master. I beg to know (I asked something along these lines earlier but had not received a response from you) why it appears that you place so much weight on one's appearance with regards to their being "real" or not? I ask because the men and women I have known in my life come in all shapes and sizes and appearances.  Their value as people, slaves, masters, etc. has been something that springs more from their actions, deeds, principles, character, and personality.  Some of the most incredibly beautiful and devoted slaves I've known have been "less than attractive" by conventional standards but their grace, devotion, and selfless service have made them stand out with utter and complete beauty.  Even in the Gorean novels I recall something being said along the lines of slaves of all sizes and appearances being found beautiful by various men. It has been my experience on these boards that with the few exceptions of some who use avatars in the forums, most of the people here either a: use their real photo or b: do have photos posted in their profile.  Either way, a photo of one's appearance (in my opinion) proves nothing other than what one looks like.  And to me, what one looks like has little or no bearing on their abilities as a master or a kajira. Also, while some of the people here may or may not roleplay (or may or may not have done so in the past), these boards are strictly for discussion of real, offline application of the Gorean philosophy.  Those who come here to roleplay are quickly shown that error and their posts are removed or moderated.   The men and women of this board (for as long as I have known them) are not roleplaying here but rather come here for discussion of those aspects of their lives which fall into the realm of Gorean discussion. I am hoping to hear you elaborate on your thoughts with regards to the above. Well wishes,
Cav's ally

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ORIGINAL: Arturas
The "good guy" masters in the Sagas, including Tarl Cabot, Clitus Vitellius, captain of Ar and others and even some of the bad guys did gave their Slave Girls a lot of personal determination.

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So, while these are not of the warrior caste, and I never said they were, they are not your run of the mill free woman either and very much female warriors when push comes to shove.

Not to deny Kimveri the pleasure of pointing this out herself, but John Norman never said that there were no females of the warrior caste either. What he said, clearly enough one might think, was:

There are no "female warriors" on Gor.

Note the quotation marks around "female warriors". In other words, nada, zip, by any definition. The argument that you imagine yourself to be offering in defense of your claim is just another example of the fantasies that afflict your understanding of Gor. And lest those fantasies lead you to surmise differently, I am posting this only for the sake of the non-Gorean audience viewing this ridiculous "best thread ever"-nominated Gor festival.

K.

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I will do so only for the sake of those readers who might mistake you for something resembling a "Gorean".

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ORIGINAL: ElizabethAnne
I can't see anyone mistaking him for Gorean anything; let alone a Gorean man.

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So, while these are not of the warrior caste, and I never said they were, they are not your run of the mill free woman either and very much female warriors when push comes to shove.

Not to deny Kimveri the pleasure of pointing this out herself, but John Norman never said that there were no females of the warrior caste either. What he said, clearly enough one might think, was:

There are no "female warriors" on Gor.

Note the quotation marks around "female warriors". In other words, nada, zip, by any definition. The argument that you imagine yourself to be offering in defense of your claim is just another example of the fantasies that afflict your understanding of Gor. And lest those fantasies lead you to surmise differently, I am posting this only for the sake of the non-Gorean audience viewing this ridiculous "best thread ever"-nominated Gor festival.

K.

Hey there Kirata; I hope no one took my "Gor festival" comment as a slam againt the Goreans here, it was not meant that way.

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ORIGINAL: Kimveri
Yet another error to be refuted:

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"There are no female warriors on Gor."~John Norman

to be read in context at the John Norman's Chronicles of Gor site

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"There are no "female warriors" on Gor. Gor is on the whole an honestly male-dominated realistic world."

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NOTE TO READERS:

I have neither the time nor the inclination to involve myself in correcting every bit of misinformation coming from such a prodigious source of same. But it is my hope that by sufficiently discrediting said source, the need will evaporate.

The Gorean world is what it is.... An extremely important aspect of writing about the Gorean world is to take it for what it is, and treat it, and view it, objectively, not to use it to promote an alien agenda... ~John Norman

Let us move, therefore, to a case in point.

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This does not automatically preclude the Sagas having specific instances of actual female warriors as a part of a real tribe controlled by Men, such as the Wagon Peoples, on Gor.

Except that they're not. The girls you're referring to are spoiled arrogant brats raised solely as prizes to be tamed.

In the crowd, on the back of a kaiila, I noted the girl Hereena, of the First Wagon, whom I had seen my first day in the camp of the Tuchuks, she who had almost ridden down Kamchak and myself between the wagons. She was a very exciting, vital, proud girl and the tiny golden nose ring, against her brownish skin, with her flashing black eyes, did not detract from her considerable but rather insolent beauty. She, and others like her, had been encouraged and spoiled from childhood in all their whims, unlike most other Tuchuk women, that they might be fit prizes, Kamchak had told me, in the games of Love War. ~Nomads

That someone would characterize these pains in the ass as "female warriors" is really terribly droll and revealing.

K.

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ORIGINAL: Kirata


NOTE TO READERS:

I have neither the time nor the inclination to involve myself in correcting every bit of misinformation coming from such a prodigious source of same. But it is my hope that by sufficiently discrediting said source, the need will evaporate.

The Gorean world is what it is.... An extremely important aspect of writing about the Gorean world is to take it for what it is, and treat it, and view it, objectively, not to use it to promote an alien agenda... ~John Norman

Let us move, therefore, to a case in point.

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ORIGINAL: Arturas

This does not automatically preclude the Sagas having specific instances of actual female warriors as a part of a real tribe controlled by Men, such as the Wagon Peoples, on Gor.

Except that they're not. The girls you're referring to are spoiled arrogant brats raised solely as prizes to be tamed.

In the crowd, on the back of a kaiila, I noted the girl Hereena, of the First Wagon, whom I had seen my first day in the camp of the Tuchuks, she who had almost ridden down Kamchak and myself between the wagons. She was a very exciting, vital, proud girl and the tiny golden nose ring, against her brownish skin, with her flashing black eyes, did not detract from her considerable but rather insolent beauty. She, and others like her, had been encouraged and spoiled from childhood in all their whims, unlike most other Tuchuk women, that they might be fit prizes, Kamchak had told me, in the games of Love War. ~Nomads

That someone would characterize these pains in the ass as "female warriors" is really terribly droll and revealing.

K.

I'm betting he still won't get it.  (I told myself to stop posting on this thread, but they make it sooo hard to resist). 

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In the crowd, on the back of a kaiila, I noted the girl Hereena, of the First Wagon, whom I had seen my first day in the camp of the Tuchuks, she who had almost ridden down Kamchak and myself between the wagons. She was a very exciting, vital, proud girl and the tiny golden nose ring, against her brownish skin, with her flashing black eyes, did not detract from her considerable but rather insolent beauty. She, and others like her, had been encouraged and spoiled from childhood in all their whims, unlike most other Tuchuk women, that they might be fit prizes, Kamchak had told me, in the games of Love War. ~Nomads

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Hello all,
I haven't my Gor series here at the house with me, and I don't have a copy of the e-books, but wasn't it only slaves that had piercings of any sort?  I remember that to have ears pierced was deeply humiliating, and only slaves had that.  Is it the same with noses?  

As I recall in the book that folks are referring to, the gals in the quote were slaves that were toyed with.  There was a game where the men were trying to capture the girls in the fastest time.  I am not by any means saying this as "I think it is this way."  I am asking honestly since I don't have access to the books.  I wouldn't be at all surprised if I'm off base.

Thanks folks,
sunshine

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In the crowd, on the back of a kaiila, I noted the girl Hereena, of the First Wagon, whom I had seen my first day in the camp of the Tuchuks, she who had almost ridden down Kamchak and myself between the wagons. She was a very exciting, vital, proud girl and the tiny golden nose ring, against her brownish skin, with her flashing black eyes, did not detract from her considerable but rather insolent beauty. She, and others like her, had been encouraged and spoiled from childhood in all their whims, unlike most other Tuchuk women, that they might be fit prizes, Kamchak had told me, in the games of Love War. ~Nomads

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At what point did you decide to accept that you are a slave? What lead you to choose to be a slave. I know most slaves will say that I didnt choose slavery it choose me. I acknowledge that is likely true but at some point you had to say... Ok, I know this is who I am and accept that choosing to walk in the knowledge of who and what you are. When or how did you realize/decide to accept that and say, " yes, I am a slave".